Rumor: Wings taking calls on Bertuzzi

[BillyZito]

It absolutely does. Since his on ice performance has been non existent any time Detroit heads to the country to the south of them.

South America?

 

[Reddwit]

Bertuzzi doesn't have nearly the same allure as Mantha did.

Doesn't hurt to shop him, but I would bet good money Bertuzzi doesn't receive close to what Mantha brought back if he is traded.

Well your scouts would have to be morons to think that. Bertuzzi is twice the player Mantha is.

The funny thing is you seem really hung up on Mantha’s size when Bertuzzi plays bigger than Mantha does.

 

[Reddwit]

While a prospect who can become 2C is a big need, the Wings have many of the pieces to build an elite D. The future on the left-side looks strong (Edvinsson, Wallinder, Johansson, Sebrango, McIsaac). The right side doesn't have nearly the potential. Also, there isn't any veteran presence.

If Detroit is serious about moving Bertuzzi, improving the current and future right-side of the D makes perfect sense.

The ask from LA should be Roy and Clarke, though Roy and Faber might work. Roy is a near ideal partner for Edvinsson his first 2-3 seasons. Clarke/Faber would make Detroit's top 4 league best in 3-4 years.

Yzerman has a track record of acquiring young D when trading. So the ask from LA should be for the Kings to share some of the wealth of RHD in their system.

This is not accurate. Detroit’s 2 best defenseman are a 20 y/o RHD and a 24 y/o RHD. They could forgo drafting or acquiring another RHD for half a decade and still be OK. Our center depth on the other hand is non-existent at every level. If Bert is traded, it almost has to be for center help.

 

[Drew311]

Niemela
Robertson
Abramov
1st
3rd
Probably have to add more but if we put Muzzin on LTIR to get the cap space I’d take Bertuzzi for a playoff run in a heart beat

So with the news that Amirov has cancer, you are willing to dump three more of the Leafs higher end prospects, plus a 1st for Bertuzzi? What does this leave the Leafs with, Knies and a bunch of C prospects? Jesus, i'm glad you're not the Leafs GM.

Bertuzzi isn't the difference between the Leafs winning/not winning the Cup, and if they don't win they would have no cheap young talent ready to step in. Basically a death wish considering their cap situation.

 

[ref19]

Not many teams will touch unless he gets vaccinated

Yep. he's a POS

 

[nbwingsfan]

People dont seem to understand province doesnt equal country. Canada requires proof of vaccine or isolation.

As of right now. By the end of march every province will have removed restrictions. You really think the federal government is still going to at that point?

 

[nbwingsfan]

So with the news that Amirov has cancer, you are willing to dump three more of the Leafs higher end prospects, plus a 1st for Bertuzzi? What does this leave the Leafs with, Knies and a bunch of C prospects? Jesus, i'm glad you're not the Leafs GM.

Bertuzzi isn't the difference between the Leafs winning/not winning the Cup, and if they don't win they would have no cheap young talent ready to step in. Basically a death wish considering their cap situation.

A physical near PPG winger is pretty much EXACTLY what the Leafs need. He can score and play physical, unlike basically their entire forward core. He’s also known as a big playoff player (again, unlike the entire Leafs forward core). The Wings would also never accept this deal.

 

[Cake Eater]

South America?

What?

 

[Oddbob]

Yep. he's a POS

Why, cause he doesn't agree with the vax thing? Give me a break!

 

[BillyZito]

What?

You said something about when Detroit heads to the country south of them?
Isn't that South America?

 

[Readytostart]

South America?

Funny you tried to point out his mistake and then made one of your own.

 

[MagicalRazor]

Niemela
Robertson
Abramov
1st
3rd
Probably have to add more but if we put Muzzin on LTIR to get the cap space I’d take Bertuzzi for a playoff run in a heart beat

I would Think Nylander has to go in the trade
Nylander + Roberston and a pick probs

 

[BillyZito]

Funny you tried to point out his mistake and then made one of your own.

That's the joke...just trying to be sarcastic. But thanks Tips

 

[nbwingsfan]

I would Think Nylander has to go in the
trade
Nylander + Roberston and a pick probs

That’s foolish. Nylander has more of a track record than Bert, no matter how good Bertuzzi has been this season. At best they’re equal
and that’s just trading a dollar for another dollar.

 

[MVPete96]

I would Think Nylander has to go in the trade
Nylander + Roberston and a pick probs

wings accept this so fast

 

[skygodz187]

I think the Dallas Stars are a perfect match for him.

His value may not be as high as they would think k since his none vaccinations thing. But he still could fetch a decent package

 

[obey86]

Why is that? Does being unvaccinated hinder his on ice performance?

It hinders his availability to play.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

The only way i see Bertuzzi moving, Is if he wants far more then what Yzerman is willing to pay. Outside of that i don't see him being moved anytime soon.

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

I think the Dallas Stars are a perfect match for him.

His value may not be as high as they would think k since his none vaccinations thing. But he still could fetch a decent package

Got an offer?

 

[BWJM]

Freedom fighters only hold about 10% of the market.. might take some work to deal him.

 

[MVPete96]

The only way i see Bertuzzi moving, Is if he wants far more then what Yzerman is willing to pay. Outside of that i don't see him being moved anytime soon.

if bert wants 8x8 you good with that deal?

 

[PAZ]

Well your scouts would have to be morons to think that. Bertuzzi is twice the player Mantha is.

The funny thing is you seem really hung up on Mantha’s size when Bertuzzi plays bigger than Mantha does.

To you and all the other Detroit posters, obviously I ruffled some feathers.

I'm not debating whether or not Mantha or Bertuzzi is the better player, just that the Capitals paid a premium to get Mantha because of his size.

Bertuzzi is a great player who's more physical and a better player than Mantha, that's cool, i'm not arguing against that. I'm saying GMs don't obsess over guys like Bertuzzi. Clarkson, Lucic, Anderson, Ladd, etc. all get overpaid and are significantly more valued than other players simply due to their size.

In terms of players like Bertuzzi, I personally don't think he is seen as the better player over Buchnevich, Hall, Reinhart, Miller, Garland, etc. at the time of the trades (yes, he's better than Hall now). They all got a a decent return, but none of them returned a package bigger than Mantha.

 

[nbwingsfan]

To you and all the other Detroit posters, obviously I ruffled some feathers.

I'm not debating whether or not Mantha or Bertuzzi is the better player, just that the Capitals paid a premium to get Mantha because of his size.

Bertuzzi is a great player who's more physical and a better player than Mantha, that's cool, i'm not arguing against that. I'm saying GMs don't obsess over guys like Bertuzzi. Clarkson, Lucic, Anderson, Ladd, etc. all get overpaid and are significantly more valued than other players simply due to their size.

In terms of players like Bertuzzi, I personally don't think he is seen as the better player over Buchnevich, Hall, Reinhart, Miller, Garland, etc. at the time of the trades (yes, he's better than Hall now). They all got a a decent return, but none of them returned a package bigger than Mantha.

Yes they all received pretty similar packages. Also not one of the players you just mentioned were PPG and very physical like Bert, also around $2M for 1.5 seasons. You’re out to lunch in this one

 

[nbwingsfan]

if bert wants 8x8 you good with that deal?

Nope. I see no way he body holds out at an elite level for that many years.

 

[LeapOnOver]

Not many teams will touch unless he gets vaccinated

Lol...no. By the start of next season vaccines are going to be like masks, nobody cares anymore.