Rumor: Wings taking calls on Bertuzzi

[Nylanderthal]

It literally says the Red Wings are taking calls on him and he has generated a ton of interest.

Stop spreading misinformation.

That last sentence is super rich considering all it says is that the wings are fielding calls. There’s nothing about there being a bunch of interest.

 

[Debrincat93]

Cant see it happening. Like Larkin, this guy is the battery that charges this team.

i would need to see us nail down a package almost better than what Mantha brought us at this point.

Taking calls IMO means nothing. everyone right now is taking calls on majority of their roster (outside the probably top 10 team).

I cant think of a player right now at his age, cap hit and the intangibles he brings to do a trade for.

 

[Debrincat93]

I actually think this would be a trade that sets us back a bit. just dont see it happening.

 

[MVPete96]

What's the ask from the kings

Turcotte +1st

 

[Sinbad]

Anti-vaxxer.face that could stop traffic ,bad back.........ummmmmmmm PASS,

I get the anti-vaxxer and bad back concerns but what does his ugly face have to do with anything? Have you seen Kopitar? He seems to have done alright and he makes Bertuzzi look like a GQ model.

 

[TCNorthstars]

It's completely besides the point though, even if teams think this season Bertuzzi is real, he is still going to return less than Mantha. Players like Bertuzzi are available every year, the same can't be said about Mantha.

So Mantha is bigger, big deal (he is mostly soft). That is what get him a premium over Bertuzzi? They have scored at similar rates over their careers. Mantha can be lazy. Bertuzzi is all heart and gives 100% all of the time.

 

[The Red Line]

Literally no part of that article said the Wings are actually taking calls on Bertuzzi. They said the "as the Wings take calls in the coming weeks..." "Bertuzzi could be of interest to some teams..." "They might be interested in..."

Bad reporting and really terrible interpretation of the article in the OP and thread title.

 

[emptyNedder]

Turcotte +1st

While a prospect who can become 2C is a big need, the Wings have many of the pieces to build an elite D. The future on the left-side looks strong (Edvinsson, Wallinder, Johansson, Sebrango, McIsaac). The right side doesn't have nearly the potential. Also, there isn't any veteran presence.

If Detroit is serious about moving Bertuzzi, improving the current and future right-side of the D makes perfect sense.

The ask from LA should be Roy and Clarke, though Roy and Faber might work. Roy is a near ideal partner for Edvinsson his first 2-3 seasons. Clarke/Faber would make Detroit's top 4 league best in 3-4 years.

Yzerman has a track record of acquiring young D when trading. So the ask from LA should be for the Kings to share some of the wealth of RHD in their system.

 

[JediOrderPizza]

Bertuzzi is that guy you want in the playoffs, Mantha is that guy you throw your f***ing controller at the tv for. I don't think they will move him, this guy pretty much is the second line right now.

 

[MVPete96]

Literally no part of that article said the Wings are actually taking calls on Bertuzzi. They said the "as the Wings take calls in the coming weeks..." "Bertuzzi could be of interest to some teams..." "They might be interested in..."

Bad reporting and really terrible interpretation of the article in the OP and thread title.

Watch the video. It’s speculation and it’s the same speculation from last TDL. When there’s smoke there’s fire….

 

[The Red Line]

Watch the video. It’s speculation and it’s the same speculation from last TDL. When there’s smoke there’s fire….

Exactly, it is speculation.

So they are not taking calls on Bertuzzi, just that, theoretically, they could.

So, again, bad reporting and really terrible interpretation of the information. Awful thread title that is categorically false, something that even glancing at the article for about 10 seconds could tell you.

 

[MVPete96]

Exactly, it is speculation.

So they are not taking calls on Bertuzzi, just that, theoretically, they could.

So, again, bad reporting and really terrible interpretation of the information. Awful thread title that is categorically false, something that even glancing at the article for about 10 seconds could tell you.

It’s the trade rumors forum buddy not the washington post. I made a thread and cited the article. Draw your own conclusions from it

 

[BillyZito]

Not many teams will touch unless he gets vaccinated

Why is that? Does being unvaccinated hinder his on ice performance?

 

[FlyguyOX]

Not many teams will touch unless he gets vaccinated

That's just blatantly false and wishful thinking.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Not many teams will touch unless he gets vaccinated

This is blatantly false, Come next fall there wont be any vaccine mandates in Canada. And life should be back to normal.

 

[MVPete96]

Let me know when Bertuzzi grows 4 inches and gains 40 lbs.

Every team would love to have him, that doesn't mean he's going to return more than Mantha. You're just setting yourself up for disappointment if you think Bertuzzi is going to return more than a young top 6 forward + 1st + 2nd.

Think more in lines of what Miller would bring in, and then subtract a bit given Bertuzzi's vaccination status and shorter track record. Retention is expected in a flat cap world, if a team doesn't retain the trade isn't going to happen.

I’m positive you’ve never seen either of these guys play lmao

 

[TGWL]

I really like his game. Don't see us (NYR) being able to make the cap work, or the available top 6 spot unless they're trading one of Laf/Kakko.

 

[TCNorthstars]

Why is that? Does being unvaccinated hinder his on ice performance?

No, but he wouldn't be able to play in Canada in the playoffs.

 

[TCNorthstars]

While a prospect who can become 2C is a big need, the Wings have many of the pieces to build an elite D. The future on the left-side looks strong (Edvinsson, Wallinder, Johansson, Sebrango, McIsaac). The right side doesn't have nearly the potential. Also, there isn't any veteran presence.

If Detroit is serious about moving Bertuzzi, improving the current and future right-side of the D makes perfect sense.

The ask from LA should be Roy and Clarke, though Roy and Faber might work. Roy is a near ideal partner for Edvinsson his first 2-3 seasons. Clarke/Faber would make Detroit's top 4 league best in 3-4 years.

Yzerman has a track record of acquiring young D when trading. So the ask from LA should be for the Kings to share some of the wealth of RHD in their system.

Seider, Hronek, and Lindstrom are pretty good down the right side. Wings have absolutely nothing at Center. They might need LHD as well as those behind Evdvinsson are still pretty iffy on being NHLers.

 

[TheOtherOne]

But why ? He’s one of their best players

for a package better than they received for Mantha (Vrana+1st).

Pretty much says it all. I'm not actively hoping to get rid of Bertuzzi. But if we can get something better than Vrana+1st coming back, I'm listening.

Since there seems to be debate: As someone who has watched full seasons of each, I would take Bert over Mantha 1000 times out of 1000 with zero hesitation.

 

[njx9]

Bert's a dude I'd trade a lot for if I was willing to throw the kitchen sink at a Cup now, but his upcoming contract is going to be ugly in the out years if that's not where you're at, especially with the injury history. If the Wings can get a 2C, or get into draft position to finally acquire one, they should be all over it. Less than no interest in moving him for a slightly different winger, though.

 

[izlez]

Why is that? Does being unvaccinated hinder his on ice performance?

Yes.

Not being allowed to be on the ice is a less than ideal scenario for peak on ice performance.

 

[MVPete96]

I really like his game. Don't see us (NYR) being able to make the cap work, or the available top 6 spot unless they're trading one of Laf/Kakko.

Yeah I think that’s what it would take. If i’m the Rangers I think it makes a lot of sense too.

 

[FlyguyOX]

So Mantha is bigger, big deal (he is mostly soft). That is what get him a premium over Bertuzzi? They have scored at similar rates over their careers. Mantha can be lazy. Bertuzzi is all heart and gives 100% all of the time.

Agree I'm taking Bertuzzi over Mantha

 

[Dr Pepper]

This is blatantly false, Come next fall there wont be any vaccine mandates in Canada. And life should be back to normal.

I would hope not.....but I also know it doesn't take much hand-wringing before things start rolling backwards here again.