HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #88: 2024-25 Season

[Pompeius Magnus]

Would love to grab him and it would make the tank this year more palatable.

What would CBJ want?

We've got a slightly used Mesar we might part with

 

[Captain Mountain]

Hughes has zero interest in medium term vet contracts, the only thing he ever acquired was reclamation project outside of Newhook. And you can't force vets to sign your UFA contract offers. Nobody was interested in the short contract offers Hughes did last July. That's not going to magically change next July (and there isn't any UFA defensive RHD to replace Savard on that market anyway).

X, Struble and Heineman can play more minutes then they are doing right now, and they aren't exactly staples on the power play.

If you're going to draw sweeping conclusions and make statements of fact about the future absent facts one way or another then there isn't really anything to discuss.

 

[Kimota]

Hail Mary thinking:

How would Shesterkin cost?

 

[Sterling Archer]

Hail Mary thinking:

How would Shesterkin cost?

$12M+ to come to Montreal.

 

[Kimota]

$12M+ to come to Montreal.

I mean the players in return.

 

[Sterling Archer]

I mean the players in return.

Too much.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

And that is still up for debate.

Up to this point they have done a great job. If the team doesn't show some improvement this season what they do about it will be telling.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

$12M+ to come to Montreal.

I'd do it. He's UFA this summer. He's 29 in December. A 7 year contract (longest we can give him as UFA) would take him to age 36.

29-36 for goalies is prime time. The only thing is it totally screws over Fowler, and I love that kid.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Up to this point they have done a great job. If the team doesn't show some improvement this season what they do about it will be telling.

Everything has been setup for this summer. This has been known for 2 years. Dvorak & Armia's contracts end. We can replace them with Beck & Tuch.

Savard's & Primeau's contracts also end. Primeau is still an rfa. We'll see how his year goes, but he's someone we can let go as we replace him in the system with Fowler.

The D is still an unknown, though. We could use a replacement for Savard, but the D class this summer isn't great. We need Reinbacher to stay healthy & make the team next year.

 

[Andrei79]

Everything has been setup for this summer. This has been known for 2 years. Dvorak & Armia's contracts end. We can replace them with Beck & Tuch.

Savard's & Primeau's contracts also end. Primeau is still an rfa. We'll see how his year goes, but he's someone we can let go as we replace him in the system with Fowler.

The D is still an unknown, though. We could use a replacement for Savard, but the D class this summer isn't great. We need Reinbacher to stay healthy & make the team next year.

Reinbachers is likely not making the team next year. He's just lost a year of development and will need to adjust to his injury and north america. They'll probably need to explore the trade market for a RD. Ideally, Matheson gets traded and they shore up the right side.

 

[rahad]

Was he a genius or did he just luck out on a near generational player in the 2nd round?

Not just Kucherov. Also add Stamkos, Hedman , Point and Vasi. They have 4-5 hall of fame players with the same team. Tampa Bay had one of the most stacked team in modern day.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Reinbachers is likely not making the team next year. He's just lost a year of development and will need to adjust to his injury and north america. They'll probably need to explore the trade market for a RD. Ideally, Matheson gets traded and they shore up the right side.

I think he will, but we'll see how much playing time he gets in Laval near the end of this season. I'm hoping they go on a bit of a playoff run.

 

[Intangir]

Jiricek would be a phenomenal add.

I'm personally not the biggest fan of acquiring Jiricek. Moreso given how our prospect pool is shaking-up at the moment.

Having watched Jiricek play a lot for HC Pizen in his draft year when we didn't know where we'd draft, and also for the Cleveland Monsters in the AHL since, I feel that a lot of Jiricek's attributes as a defenseman; the amazing shot from the point/ability to find seams to shoot through, the mix of great size, physical play, skill, as well as solid transition and puck-possession play, all of that is comparable to our own Logan Mailloux.

As such, I think that Jiricek and Mailloux would occupy the same "chair" if we had both in our system, meaning that one would make the other completely redundant/trade fodder to fill other needs.

Now, if we start to nitpick we can easily catch some pretty marked differences in the two players' toolsets.

Jiricek is a better passer, a better thinker of the game, also slightly bigger than Mailloux with more reach, and better angling along the boards. I also feel that Jiricek has less breakdowns against the cycle, and that he boxes-out his man and blocks passing lanes a bit better than Mailloux as of now.

But he's also not nearly as smooth-skating as Mailloux is, hasn't shown the same progression as Mailloux in the last year or two (an important factor in my mind), and I also personally don't think Jiricek's upside is actually all that much higher than Mailloux's if we get right down to it.

So yeah, simply put I feel it would be a mistake for the Canadiens to try and acquire Jiricek considering that we already have Mailloux and that the trade package we'd need to put forward to get him would most likely include players we DON'T want to trade, or our first-round pick this year, which we likely want to trade even less.

 

[HuGort]

Everything has been setup for this summer. This has been known for 2 years. Dvorak & Armia's contracts end. We can replace them with Beck & Tuch.

Savard's & Primeau's contracts also end. Primeau is still an rfa. We'll see how his year goes, but he's someone we can let go as we replace him in the system with Fowler.

The D is still an unknown, though. We could use a replacement for Savard, but the D class this summer isn't great. We need Reinbacher to stay healthy & make the team next year.

Retention on Jake Allen and Petry contracts also end. Laine should be healthy and we know if Dach can play center. Demidov will be here.

Primeau is gone as far as I can see. Had plenty of chances. Training camp battle between Dobes and Hughes, the winner will replace him.

 

[HabbyGuy]

Reinbachers is likely not making the team next year. He's just lost a year of development and will need to adjust to his injury and north america. They'll probably need to explore the trade market for a RD. Ideally, Matheson gets traded and they shore up the right side.

Reinbacher's injury is such a kick in the nuts. He would of had such a golden opportunity this year for leaps of development with both the farm and parent club.

 

[Egresch]

Jiricek would be a phenomenal add.

I think both Jiricek and Nemec will be candidates for offer sheet in summer 2026. They are not happy with approach from their team.

 

[Kimota]

Too much.

I know. But Gretzky was traded.

 

[Big Lurk]

Would you guys do Nick Robertson for Justin Barron?

 

[Egresch]

Would you guys do Nick Robertson for Justin Barron?

No way, why?

 

[Big Lurk]

No way, why?

Just curious really. Havent done the deep dive to be honest. He wouldn't fit our needs size wise. A top 9 with Caufield, Gallagher, Newhook and Robertson would be insanity.

But player for player, both are underachieving and maybe need a different opportunity to succeed. Barron doesn't have the opportunity to play with a more experience D partner. Robertson is behind Nylander and Marner, from the outside looking in, I'm guessing he doesn't have as much prime ice time as he would like to

Basically laying feelings and no hard facts on here

 

[Egresch]

Just curious really. Havent done the deep dive to be honest

Robertson is useless, 5-9 winger who can only play offense, yet he has 1 goal in 15 games, no assist.
Stay patient with Barron, looked like he improved a bit this season. He was more physical, if we want to trade him, trade for upgrade on RHD or 2C.

 

[Sterling Archer]

I'd do it. He's UFA this summer. He's 29 in December. A 7 year contract (longest we can give him as UFA) would take him to age 36.

29-36 for goalies is prime time. The only thing is it totally screws over Fowler, and I love that kid.

I would never pay any goalie that high a percentage of the cap. Yes he’s one of the best goalies in the NHL but I think we all learned with Price that it’s not enough and that money is better spent on a no. 1 center, RHD and roster depth as most recent cup winners have shown.

As much as I’d love to see him in a Habs uni, cost is prohibitive for his position.

 

[therocket9]

Everything has been setup for this summer. This has been known for 2 years. Dvorak & Armia's contracts end. We can replace them with Beck & Tuch.

Savard's & Primeau's contracts also end. Primeau is still an rfa. We'll see how his year goes, but he's someone we can let go as we replace him in the system with Fowler.

The D is still an unknown, though. We could use a replacement for Savard, but the D class this summer isn't great. We need Reinbacher to stay healthy & make the team next year.

Yes all those contracts end but Slaf gets a 6.7 million dollar pay raise and Guhle gets a 4.7 million dollar pay raise.

 

[Mrb1p]

Lou is looking for a vet LD as per Pierre Lebrun

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Yes all those contracts end but Slaf gets a 6.7 million dollar pay raise and Guhle gets a 4.7 million dollar pay raise.

Which is +$11.4m. But, the total amount of contracts ending for Montreal is $15.853m and we get another $4.3m removed in retained salary (Petry & Allen end this summer). That's a total additional space of $8.8m. Add another $4m for the projected cap. That's $12.8m in space.

The only players that need signing are Heineman & Struble. That's it. Maybe Evans if we want to re-sign him. We also have one more year of Price on LTIR.

We can easily sign or take on a $6m-$8m contract on D.