Who Do You Want to be the Next Head Coach of the NY Rangers?

[Raspewtin]

Drill Sergeants don't work?

It doesn't have to be yelling. It's about enforcing a standard. That standard has degenerated to an embarrassing level the pass year.

I would also like a coach to push our roster to be at peak physical condition. Not what we've been the past 2 years.

Problem is we're gonna enforce a standard our players prob cant reach

we have easily one of the worst puck moving D corps in the league. Fox is the only thing keeping us from being the worst. I'm sure a coach with structure will get them to make smart plays a little more but he's not going to make Trouba a competent puck mover and not slower than dinosaur shit, or make Lindgren competent in the offensive zone, or give Schneider a semblance of hockey IQ. Our D have serious problems no coach is going to fix.

 

[Machinehead]

I’m not suggesting that you can’t win with players like that. I’m suggesting that you can’t win when everyone plays like that, or when a whole line that gets a ton of ice time plays like that.

The Rangers simply do not play a style of hockey that will win four playoff rounds. I thought we were all in agreement on that.

It’s not about defense. It’s not about goaltending. It’s about what the team does with the puck and in the offensive zone when they don’t have it.

We are all in agreement on that but I don't think significant changes to the roster are necessary as of yet. I would like to see what they do with a directive besides literally "do what you want."

We don't have the talent for that to be our gamelan. Very few teams that have won the Cup ever have.

 

[duhmetreE]

Problem is we're gonna enforce a standard our players prob cant reach

we have easily one of the worst puck moving D corps in the league. Fox is the only thing keeping us from being the worst. I'm sure a coach with structure will get them to make smart plays a little more but he's not going to make Trouba a competent puck mover and not slower than dinosaur shit, or make Lindgren competent in the offensive zone, or give Schneider a semblance of hockey IQ. Our D have serious problems no coach is going to fix.

I think you will see a massive difference in puck movement when it's not a free for all on breakouts / transition.

Our only play is a stretch pass or dump it out. Dumping it out is fine but there needs to be a plan in place to get the puck and win the battles. We never had a plan for anything.

 

[Leonardo87]

We are all in agreement on that but I don't think significant changes to the roster are necessary as of yet. I would like to see what they do with a directive besides literally "do what you want."

We don't have the talent for that to be our gamelan. Very few teams that have won the Cup ever have.

We really can’t make any drastic moves anyway. Just let a new coach come in and see what they can do.

Panarin contract is going to limit any moves we would like to make. Unless we are moving out another player. I think this is the roster with maybe some very minor tweaks for the next 2-3 years.

 

[Machinehead]

I don't really care what Panarin does. He's a great 5v5 player as is and he would be more useful if everyone around him did what they should be doing. He's a cross-ice passer in a system where everyone stands around waiting, already covered. We don't have the speed or the puck moving on defense to rush with numbers. So he's basically just carrying the puck on a team where there's no concept of getting open for a shot.

To that same point, if anyone needs to do more away from the puck, it's Zibanejad. Yes, he plays defense but he's not as good at it as you think he is. He's our third best center at 5v5 play, pretty firmly.

Literally his only above average skill is shooting. He needs to work off the cycle and move his feet to get open. He's just not a good enough player to just "make plays." Panarin is, and he's not. Sorry, but that's the truth.

This team is talented enough to win but they're not as talented as they think they are or talented enough to play like the 2018 Capitals.

 

[duhmetreE]

I don't really care what Panarin does. He's a great 5v5 player as is and he would be more useful if everyone around him did what they should be doing. He's a cross-ice passer in a system where everyone stands around waiting, already covered. We don't have the speed or the puck moving on defense to rush with numbers. So he's basically just carrying the puck on a team where there's no concept of getting open for a shot.

To that same point, if anyone needs to do more away from the puck, it's Zibanejad. Yes, he plays defense but he's not as good at it as you think he is. He's our third best center at 5v5 play, pretty firmly.

Literally his only above average skill is shooting. He needs to work off the cycle and move his feet to get open. He's just not a good enough player to just "make plays." Panarin is, and he's not. Sorry, but that's the truth.

I even think his one timer is over rated.

I do not like how his game has evolved.

 

[Machinehead]

I even think his one timer is over rated.

I do not like how his game has evolved.

One timers in general are overrated. How quickly you release affects goalie reaction time way more than shot velocity. Slower, more accurate shots are also easier for your teammates to tip.

The next evolution of powerplays, imo, is the wings playing on their strong side to move the puck quicker and have more mobility. I would love to be the first to start doing it.

Put Panarin at RW and a LH shot at LW. Force Zibanejad to get used to the bumper where he doesn't have the time or space to wind up to kingdom come. It'll be better in the long run.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

A lot of problems on this roster would be solved if one of kreider or panarin played rw....next coach should make it happen

One timers in general are overrated. How quickly you release affects goalie reaction time way more than shot velocity. Slower, more accurate shots are also easier for your teammates to tip.

The next evolution of powerplays, imo, is the wings playing on their strong side to move the puck quicker and have more mobility. I would love to be the first to start doing it.

Put Panarin at RW and a LH shot at LW. Force Zibanejad to get used to the bumper where he doesn't have the time or space to wind up to kingdom come. It'll be better in the long run.

Imo we need a lefty in the bumper so that if Zib doesn't have a good look on the one timer he can slide it to the middle for one.

 

[Machinehead]

A lot of problems on this roster would be solved if one of kreider or panarin played rw....next coach should make it happen

They're both viable imo.

Panarin doesn't lean on shooting nearly enough to justify being on his off wing and Kreider is basically a positionless player the way he follows the puck around the boards and drives the net. He doesn't carry that much so I'm not that worried about him receiving off-wing passes.

I'd lean more towards Panarin. With the offensive focus being on broken plays and the royal road, and the ability of the equipment nowadays to facilitate shooting off of toe drags, off-wing play is becoming a relic.

 

[Machinehead]

A lot of problems on this roster would be solved if one of kreider or panarin played rw....next coach should make it happen


Imo we need a lefty in the bumper so that if Zib doesn't have a good look on the one timer he can slide it to the middle for one.

That could work, and just let Panarin play on the right. He doesn't f***ing shoot anyway.

 

[NickyFotiu]

A lot of problems on this roster would be solved if one of kreider or panarin played rw....next coach should make it happen


Imo we need a lefty in the bumper so that if Zib doesn't have a good look on the one timer he can slide it to the middle for one.

I like that possibility. In general the puck can move faster than skaters BUT on our PP when our guys only move the puck not themselves they become predictable and it allows the other team to stay in their zone. If they moved their bodies as well as the puck the other team would chase much more often.

 

[duhmetreE]

One timers in general are overrated. How quickly you release affects goalie reaction time way more than shot velocity. Slower, more accurate shots are also easier for your teammates to tip.

The next evolution of powerplays, imo, is the wings playing on their strong side to move the puck quicker and have more mobility. I would love to be the first to start doing it.

Put Panarin at RW and a LH shot at LW. Force Zibanejad to get used to the bumper where he doesn't have the time or space to wind up to kingdom come. It'll be better in the long run.

I do not think they're over rated. We're just terrible at them. Puck movement is way too slow and predictable; Zibs usually puts himself in poor position and doesn't know where the puck is going.

A well timed and placed one timer is nearly unstoppable. We're not good at it.... par for the course.

We just do very little well as a team tbh. I've mentioned it a few times, I'm surprised how much success we found... As far as an elite goalie and special teams can get you.

p.s.- to your other point, release is king in modern day hockey. We suck at that too. Panarin is capable of it but he has a 2 second processing fee.

 

[Machinehead]

I do not think they're over rated. We're just terrible at them. Puck movement is way too slow and predictable; Zibs usually puts himself in poor position and doesn't know where the puck is going.

A well timed and placed one timer is nearly unstoppable. We're not good at it.... par for the course.

We just do very little well as a team tbh. I've mentioned it a few times, I'm surprised how much success we found... As far as an elite goalie and special teams can get you.

Well placed one timer is an oxymoron.

I'm not against the concept of it but a lot of guys try to shoot it way too hard. Zibanejad is among the chief offenders in the league.

And what you said about poor positioning is also true.

You know who actually does take one timers really well? Leon Draisaitl. He just taps the puck. There's almost no wind up.

 

[Synergy27]

We are all in agreement on that but I don't think significant changes to the roster are necessary as of yet. I would like to see what they do with a directive besides literally "do what you want."

We don't have the talent for that to be our gamelan. Very few teams that have won the Cup ever have.

I agree. I will remain concerned that Panarin will do whatever he wants regardless though.

I think what we do in FA will be very telling.

 

[Machinehead]

Of course, one of the big reasons Edmonton's powerplay is successful is because McDavid plays his strong side, can pass or shoot, and they don't lean on one timers like it's the only way to score.

 

[Machinehead]

I agree. I will remain concerned that Panarin will do whatever he wants regardless though.

I think what we do in FA will be very telling.

Like I said, I don't care if he does.

Most stars in the NHL don't give a f*** about anything but them getting points. The hot new thing to be obsessed with is Matthew Tkachuk and there's one of him in the league. Most guys at that level just go out and play. You need that. Skill still wins Cups.

If the rest of your team plays with structure, it doesn't matter that much. You also need to give basic direction to young, developing players besides "don't make mistakes" and we haven't done that.

Space is limited in the playoffs but guys that can bully their way to space are even more rare than talents like Panarin. Who's throwing NHL defensemen around? Maybe Tkachuk. Maybe Ovechkin when he feels like it but he doesn't 99% of the time. That's it.

You either have the talent to operate without space or you play a team game to create it. Panarin can do the former. Everyone else on the roster is not doing the latter.

 

[RangerBoy]

Peter Laviolette.

The ultimate retread coach.

Drury might as well trade all of the kids because Laviolette won't work with them.

 

[Mac n Gs]

I’ll set the over/under at 1.5 years for Drury being fired if they actually decide to hire Laviolette

 

[McRanger92]

The idea that people think that yelling at this roster will make them very good is hilarious.

this fanbase is stuck in a weird emotional place where it’s “these losses pain me more than the players and I want a coach will avenge that for me”

It’s f***ing weird.

I just want someone who will make it uncomfortable enough for Panarin that he’ll leave

Peter Laviolette.

The ultimate retread coach.

Drury might as well trade all of the kids because Laviolette won't work with them.

Elliotte doesn’t know shit. If it was going to be Laviolette why are they waiting until next week? Neither guy in that video has watched a Ranger game in years but they are apparently the authority. NHL media sucks

 

[bobbop]

Laviolette has 10 out of 210 votes on this thread. Says a lot.

 

[17futurecap]

We will be back here in 22 months talking in a thread titled Drury and Laviolette fired.

 

[gravey9]

Laviolette has 10 out of 210 votes on this thread. Says a lot.

Hiring Lavy is an acknowledgement that this core is somewhat uncoachable. Or that Dolan and Sather are very hands on.

This is just bad.

I don’t foresee Lavy instilling a winning brand of hockey that will work in post season. I see him being yet another somewhat successful regular season coach who will coach to save his job and not to instill a culture and a program. Feels shortsighted by the GM.

Only bright side is fan expectations will be lower.

 

[RangerBoy]

Peter Laviolette will bring Kevin McCarthy along with him to New York. McCarthy was on Paul Maurice's staff in Carolina when Laviolette was first hired in Carolina. McCarthy has been on Laviolette's staff in Philadelphia, Nashville and Washington. Gord Murphy will be on Laviolette's staff. Pete doesn't work cheap. The Capitals gave him a three year contract worth $4.9M AAV.

We will be back here in 22 months talking in a thread titled Drury and Laviolette fired.

Late April or early May 2025. Who should the Rangers hire as their next head coach and general manager?

 

[HANK30]

FWIW

 

[NYRFANMANI]