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Or maybe they realized risking debilitating injury before a game even starts is stupid and pointless, and they'd rather beat their rivals where it actually matters. On the socreboard.
What's Your Most Controversial Hockey Opinion?
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therealkoho
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for those of us that did play at a higher level, advanced stats have their place but we don't need them to understand or to see what's really happening in the game
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North Cole
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You're talking to someone who has 1128 NHL games under their belt.
But anyway I'm talking about the uber progressive pudgy 30-something year old podcasters or twitter people who seem to think analytics are more important than the score itself, the kind of people who come up with flaming hot takes such as "According to analytics you should just give the puck away to the other team" and who constantly feel the need to bash the "old boys club" and act as if some 30 year old math nerd is more qualified than people with any sort of hockey experience.
You mean the person that come up with their own stats and came to the conclusion that John Carlson wasn't elite?
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Chimpradamus
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The NHL grabbing the sport by the balls was the worst thing that could ever happen to the sport. Hockey would be thriving much more if the American corporate entertainment industry never got a hold of it.
Couldn't they have picked curling instead?
Couldn't they have picked curling instead?
I wouldn't call it controversial but the whole "you wouldn't need to look at stats if you played the game" thing is pretty stupid because we have tons of examples of guys who "played the game" who made obviously stupid decisions that a bunch of stats hobbyists on twitter immediately recognized as terrible decisions. Marc Bergevin played the game and he thought Karl Alzner was a good investment. Dale Tallon played the game and he handed Vegas 2/3 of their top line for no reason, and signed Dave Bolland to a massive contract. Nonis and Chiarelli both played the game (NCAA, but if you're going to use your Junior B experience to say you played the game that counts too) and they did Clarkson/Lucic/Hall-Larsson.
It's not that you needed stats to realize Karl Alzner was cooked, but a cursory glance at possession metrics for 5 seconds would tell you it's absolutely insane to offer that player 5 years at 4.6M. Somehow nearly 1200 NHL games weren't enough experience for Marc Bergevin to realize that was a horrible idea like hundreds of random people on HF and twitter did, whether they looked at stats or not. There were still a lot of people who played the game and someone who makes a lot of money as a GM based on his experience playing the game who thought Alzner was worth that contract.
For my real controversial opinion it's probably removing offside. I could handle leaving in the blue line in terms of once the puck enters the zone you need to clear if it leaves the zone, but I don't think offside should be called on zone entries.
It's not that you needed stats to realize Karl Alzner was cooked, but a cursory glance at possession metrics for 5 seconds would tell you it's absolutely insane to offer that player 5 years at 4.6M. Somehow nearly 1200 NHL games weren't enough experience for Marc Bergevin to realize that was a horrible idea like hundreds of random people on HF and twitter did, whether they looked at stats or not. There were still a lot of people who played the game and someone who makes a lot of money as a GM based on his experience playing the game who thought Alzner was worth that contract.
For my real controversial opinion it's probably removing offside. I could handle leaving in the blue line in terms of once the puck enters the zone you need to clear if it leaves the zone, but I don't think offside should be called on zone entries.
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Ovechkin isn't that good. Nobody wants to be the team to give him 700 and he's now goalless in 5 straight. Teams are actually playing defense on him now. Instead of leaving him wide open for no reason and letting him score the same goals over and over again. 31% of his goals are on the PP. Majority of them are scored the same way. Caps are 1-4 in those 5 games. So the notion of game planning or playing defense on Ovi would open it up for others is false. 1-4. Stop leaving him wide open all game and the Caps aren't that good.
Imagine if teams played defense like this on him on a nightly basis. Instead of letting him have a free skate at the left dot. He would have 300 goals right now tops.
Imagine if teams played defense like this on him on a nightly basis. Instead of letting him have a free skate at the left dot. He would have 300 goals right now tops.
Mine is pretty simple in that Mario doesn't belong in the big 4.
His ESGF/ESGA ratios just drop him down into the next grouping of players for me.
His ESGF/ESGA ratios just drop him down into the next grouping of players for me.
SecretOilersFan
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It depends on what you mean by entertaining. More teams and more talent dilution means star players can show off their talent even more. So many people idolize the 80's or early 90's as some of the best days of hockey. Weaker defensemen/goalies allow for higher scoring games. Plus you got way more talent in the NHL today due to more Americans playing it and higher % of Europeans coming over say compared to the 80's.
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I liked Fedor too, but he had all the tools without the toolbox. Pass the puck if you're going to lose it Fedor!
TheAngryHank
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I actually can't tell if this was a serious post or not. Does that mean you win?
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He is serious , sneak over to the nfl section and read some of his Patriots posts , all world tin foil level stuff lol.
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The 2012 Kings were the best Cup winning team in the post-lockout era, and it's really not close.
This is controversial only because every available playoff statistic we have supports it.
Oh wait that makes it not controversial at all.
This is controversial only because every available playoff statistic we have supports it.
Oh wait that makes it not controversial at all.
I have 2 and I believe both not just being a contrarian .
#1 Ovi is the greatest goal scorer in history (and a better player overall then crosby)
#2 Patrick Kane was the best overall scorer of his generation. Adding in passing puts Kane ahead of Ovi.
#1 Ovi is the greatest goal scorer in history (and a better player overall then crosby)
#2 Patrick Kane was the best overall scorer of his generation. Adding in passing puts Kane ahead of Ovi.
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Not if your a Wings fan ..lol.. actually after a quarter of a century of playoffs and four cups i still feel spoiled.
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