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What is wrong with Mcdavid?

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MacMacandBarbie said:
3 cups away from McDavid, that’s success. Was crucial in the Blues run.

Fair.

He was pacing at nearly that before McDavid. It went up more like 20%. Which does show he elevates players.

Nah, his 30g/57pts in 74 games for the Jets was just as good. He was more of a physical presence.

You mean before he got consistent top line winger minutes, instead of having to carry a line? We all knew he would be good on the wing, it’s not a revelation. However McDavid definitely elevated his totals, just not to the degree you’re making it out to be.

He’s in the second tier, with players like Matthews, but yes.

Nobody said that, just you’re making him out to be Lemieux elevating players and it’s not that at all.
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Plenty of people have said that.

Maroon having TEAM success doesn’t change that his point totals haven’t even matched his goal totals since leaving McDavids side

Please explain how a 35G/60pt pace is “just as good” as a 50g/PPG pace with McDavid.

Hyman was never pacing anywhere close to PPG before playing with McDavid.

RNH has been playing 19-20mins his entire career. His point totals only went up consistently when playing with McDrai

Mcdavid makes everyone around him better than anyone else in the NHL. End of story.
 
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MacMacandBarbie said:
He was elevating him, but not to some insane level. The guy went from being on the first line on a bottom feeder to being one of the most valuable 3rd liners in the league on teams that win cups. I don’t think he missed being on McDavid’s wing, and his paycheck wouldn’t have been bigger.
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Paycheck wouldn’t have been bigger? He signed for $1.7M leaving Edmonton and has signed for like $900k ever since?

Also the season he scored 27G Edmonton had 103pts and went to game 7 of the second round… not exactly a bottom feeder is it?
 
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MacMacandBarbie said:
Guy won 3 cups in a row the second he left McDavid.

His season high is 36 points, but great point projection reach in the smallest sample ever.

Lie? His season high is 83 points.

Just lying now? Kane’s production hasn’t changed at all playing with McDavid, and he never was PPG.

RNH was nearly PPG and won the Calder his first season over a decade ago in a lower scoring era. The data has always suggested he would put up points in a 1st line winger role.

Not even going to touch this one.
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RNH didn't win the Calder.
 
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phrenssoa said:
I’m not convinced McDavid was playing injured, he might’ve just been in a bad funk along with 80% of his teammates. He was off his game even before the hip injury.

But we all knew he would be back to his dominant self eventually. The time has come and I would be surprised if he doesn’t finish the year as the points leader.
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He missed games dude, he was clearly hurt lol

His faceoff percentage didn't suddenly drop from 50+% to 25% over a long stretch for no reason

he couldn't shoot, he couldn't pass, he couldn't turn on a dime, his speed was dimished

i mean it was blatantly obvious he was injured. Like I said he even missed games...
 
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Maybe we should start a small sample thread now that McDavid is on 328-point pace last 3 games HF is some fun read at times. McDavid is just fine
 
You guys shouldn't be surprised that a top 3 Crosby homer made this thread.
It was always made with dishonest intentions and now it's pointless.
 
He costs too f***ing much which means he can't be surrounded with a competent team that consists of hard working, decently skilled 3 lines deep that can pull their weight and take pressure off of him.

Currently Edmonton, like Toronto...sucks both in goal and on the back end.

Solution? Stop overpaying talent because of prestige. And pay them to what their value actually is. McDavid isn't worth 12M+ The damage done to the cap by setting that bar as standard pay destroys your cap structure and the cap don't give two f***s about how good McDavid is.

Eichel at 10M is more valuable than McDavid at 12M+
 
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Drytoast said:
He costs too f***ing much which means he can't be surrounded with a competent team that consists of hard working, decently skilled 3 lines deep that can pull their weight and take pressure off of him.

Currently Edmonton, like Toronto...sucks both in goal and on the back end.

Solution? Stop overpaying talent because of prestige. And pay them to what their value actually is. McDavid isn't worth 12M+ The damage done to the cap by setting that bar as standard pay destroys your cap structure and the cap don't give two f***s about how good McDavid is.

Eichel at 10M is more valuable than McDavid at 12M+
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disagree on Eichel but there is something to be said about this forsure

You need an extra good GM to squeeze as much talent into the roster as possible with high AAV players

and if you ever end up in a situation like Edmonton at the start of the year where your 12m+ guy is injured and not producing things get ugly fast. But McDavid is absolutely worth the money, just Chia and Holland didn't do a very good job of surrounding him with players on good deals. Lots of garbage contracts... but it's not easy being a GM in the arctic north, no one wants to play here
 
Drytoast said:
He costs too f***ing much which means he can't be surrounded with a competent team that consists of hard working, decently skilled 3 lines deep that can pull their weight and take pressure off of him.

Currently Edmonton, like Toronto...sucks both in goal and on the back end.

Solution? Stop overpaying talent because of prestige. And pay them to what their value actually is. McDavid isn't worth 12M+ The damage done to the cap by setting that bar as standard pay destroys your cap structure and the cap don't give two f***s about how good McDavid is.

Eichel at 10M is more valuable than McDavid at 12M+
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Huh? Literally every team in the league would take McDavid at 12+ and would pay tons of assets to do so
 
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Drytoast said:
Eichel at 10M is more valuable than McDavid at 12M+
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Some comments you should just keep to yourself.

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Drytoast said:
He costs too f***ing much which means he can't be surrounded with a competent team that consists of hard working, decently skilled 3 lines deep that can pull their weight and take pressure off of him.

Currently Edmonton, like Toronto...sucks both in goal and on the back end.

Solution? Stop overpaying talent because of prestige. And pay them to what their value actually is. McDavid isn't worth 12M+ The damage done to the cap by setting that bar as standard pay destroys your cap structure and the cap don't give two f***s about how good McDavid is.

Eichel at 10M is more valuable than McDavid at 12M+
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Yeh we should just pay the best player in the NHL like he’s some 3rd line scrub. Unfortunately these things called Agents exist.
 
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