OT: The Pittsburgher Thread: Congrats to KC, but Kelce was the real winner winning Swift

[WickedWrister]

LMAO everyone saying we signed Bill Burr

 

[Buddy Bizarre]

If people really believe that anything and everything is hopeless because Tomlin/Sullivan will ruin it and/or mismanage it, why do you follow these teams at all? Why spend hours on message boards discussing it? This utter nihilism that excuses every player for Steelers/Penguins based on the head coach is simply absurd. YES, I WANT TOMLIN GONE. However, the idea that you should just throw up your hands and keep running a trash QB out there because he's coach and he'll screw up whomever the QB is quite the take. If you really believe it, I'd suggest finding a public library and spend the next several years finding other means of recreation.

BC at some point you hope the time investment will pay off when they eventually can these clowns masquerading as professional head coaches.

 

[MrBrightside]

BC at some point you hope the time investment will pay off when they eventually can these clowns masquerading as professional head coaches.

And that's fine, but why bother watching until they fire them if absolutely nothing you do matters until they are gone? It'll be made public when Tomlin is gone. You can pick back up then.

 

[MrBrightside]

The lack of early activity makes me wonder if they are taking a big swing rather than last year's volume-based free agency approach.

 

[End of Line]

Solid signing for a punter. Still remember watching him kill it at Ohio State

 

[JTG]

The speed and efficiency of which Wiedl and Khan operate is refreshing. They recognize when shit isn't working and cut ties with it the moment they can.

 

[MrBrightside]

 

[Empoleon8771]

This just makes the Wilson deal look even more insane in terms of value.

 

[WickedWrister]

Does this take them out of the running for Fields?

This just makes the Wilson deal look even more insane in terms of value.

Yep was about to say the exact same thing.

 

[Empoleon8771]

I think the only team that could be interested in Fields at this point is probably the Vikings, but would the Bears trade him within the division? I'm really skeptical of that.

I could also see the Broncos.

 

[Peat]

That's bad news for Rudolph getting a starting shot.

I think the only team that could be interested in Fields at this point is probably the Vikings, but would the Bears trade him within the division? I'm really skeptical of that.

I could also see the Broncos.

If Payton didn't think Wilson could make it work for him, I'll be surprised if he thinks Fields is the answer.

I wonder if NYG might look at him.

 

[WickedWrister]

I think the only team that could be interested in Fields at this point is probably the Vikings, but would the Bears trade him within the division? I'm really skeptical of that.

I could also see the Broncos.

Maybe LVR or the Broncos trade up for McCarthy in the draft.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Fields is only going to bring back like a 5th if the only teams trading for him are doing it as a backup.

 

[VanIsle]

With Wilson coming to Pittsburgh, do you think they will sign Wagner as well as they are good friends and the Steelers had ties to Wagner before. . . .

 

[MrBrightside]

With Wilson coming to Pittsburgh, do you think they will sign Wagner as well as they are good friends and the Steelers had ties to Wagner before. . . .

I hope not. He's washed and the last thing this defense needs is another slow LB.

 

[WheresRamziAbid]

I hope not. He's washed and the last thing this defense needs is another slow LB.

Wagner is not washed.

Hes not his peak, but hes better than what weve been running out their the last half decade.

 

[VanIsle]

I hope not. He's washed and the last thing this defense needs is another slow LB.

He was a 2nd team all pro last year, and 10th straight.

$4.5 million is what they believe he could sign for, why not for cheap????

 

[Goalie_Bob]

Fields is only going to bring back like a 5th if the only teams trading for him are doing it as a backup.

My prediction is the Rams as a backup. 5th round pick. McVey brings him in to learn and see what he has as the potential successor to Stafford.

 

[T1K]

I think the Seahawks could have some sneaky interest in Fields

 

[MrBrightside]

Well, washed may be a little strong but they already have what Wagner gives you in Roberts. Wagner is a major liability in pass coverage and will be 34 before the season - they need someone with range who can cover far more than they need another run stuffer.

 

[Empoleon8771]

I think the Seahawks could have some sneaky interest in Fields

I think I read the expectation is for them to draft a QB in round 1 this year, especially because they've had a surplus of draft capital in recent years due to the Wilson trade.

Honestly, I could see them taking Penix in either round 1 or 2 to sit behind Smith to start. Seattle taking the kid from UW to learn behind Geno Smith for a year? Makes a ton of sense to me.

 

[WickedWrister]

Some draft news while we wait for the Steelers to do something in FA

 

[CheckingLineCenter]

The speed and efficiency of which Wiedl and Khan operate is refreshing. They recognize when shit isn't working and cut ties with it the moment they can.

They’re really awesome. I would love to promote Khan to a POFO type role and keep Wiedl, but even if not, letting talent matriculate isn’t a bad thing.

 

[Mr Jiggyfly]

And the onus is on the coach to help him swim.

Which he didn't.

At no point did Tomlin give the green light for a non-conservative scheme designed to give a QB the best chance of developing. Tomlin's public stance was always "as long as we're winning I'm happy". To take it back to Jiggyfly's original post that prompted this discussion, at no point did Tomlin's actions with Pickett disprove the following:



Tomlin was not willing to put developing a young QB over winning games.

And here's the thing.

That's not a defence of Pickett. I mean, it can form part of one if you want it to, but Pickett's fate and what Pickett deserves can be wholly independent of criticising Mike Tomlin's attitude to recruiting and developing the QB position.

Pickett is whatever, man. Pickett is effectively history barring a big twist.

But Mike Tomlin will be continuing to make QB decisions for the foreseeable. That should scare Steelers' fans. Everyone will have their own opinion as to where the flaw with Pickett lies, but I don't get how anyone can look at how this two years went and feel comfortable with the idea that Tomlin is part of getting the next one. He is too conservative, too short-termist, and seemingly too lousy an evaluator of talent at the position as well.

Tomlin was in the same building with KP for years.

He had a unique advantage to evaluate him, and as I keep saying he either blew it on the evaluation side or the development side.

There is no dancing around that even though some on here have tried.

I think the only team that could be interested in Fields at this point is probably the Vikings, but would the Bears trade him within the division? I'm really skeptical of that.

I could also see the Broncos.

There isn’t a market for Fields because… he’s not a good QB.

 

[Peat]

Some draft news while we wait for the Steelers to do something in FA

I think right now he'd be the pick I'd be happiest with at 20 although I don't know many expect him to still be there then.