Roster/Rumors/Speculation/Trade Talk - 2023-24: Hotel California

[Osakahaus]

Nick Foligno going to Chicago too. Bruins just cleared 9.8 million off their cap in one move. Unreal

And yet the isles can't move Bailey...

 

[SRBisles]

This move really pisses me off. Lou needs to be shot!
Forget moving Bailey now to free up cap space. Chicago was the odds on favor to take him off our hands for a pick. Now what, we give a 1st rounder to someone to take Bailey! This f***ing moron needs to go now. I'm so tired of his shit.

Arizona won't take him, if they do they are going to want more i.e Ladd.
Are you ready to give up 2 2nd rounders? or a 2nd and 3rd because Lou is f***ing sleeping!

It’s not as crazy as I had thought originally, since foligno is a pending UFA it’s just his rights so they really only cleared 6M and Hall is obviously a much better player than Bailey.

 

[Throttle]

This move really pisses me off. Lou needs to be shot!
Forget moving Bailey now to free up cap space. Chicago was the odds on favor to take him off our hands for a pick. Now what, we give a 1st rounder to someone to take Bailey! This f***ing moron needs to go now. I'm so tired of his shit.

Arizona won't take him, if they do they are going to want more i.e Ladd.
Are you ready to give up 2 2nd rounders? or a 2nd and 3rd because Lou is f***ing sleeping!

And the Bruins were unbeatable last year and made all those moves at the deadline only lose lose in the first round when up 3-1. I mean, there’s perspective.

 

[Glorydays22]

It’s not as crazy as I had thought originally, since foligno is a pending UFA it’s just his rights so they really only cleared 6M and Hall is obviously a much better player than Bailey.

I'm not saying Bailey is even close to Hall in talent. Lou should have moved Bailey right away before something like this happened. With the cap only going up 1M, there are going to be more teams (as we are seeing) going to dump cap....Anyone i.e Johnsson, Hall and whomever is next is 100 times better than Bailey.

And the Bruins were unbeatable last year and made all those moves at the deadline only lose lose in the first round when up 3-1. I mean, there’s perspective.

I don't care about Boston, Nashville, Calgary or whatever other team does last year or now. My concern is only for the isles and we aren't doing shit. Lou needs to be proactive with cap concerns for many of the teams this offseason.

 

[SI90]

Does CHI keep him or flip him?

 

[mm11]

We’ll keep waiting for that value, moving goalposts to find it now - ‘the cap going up’ is the reason for the value…

Not many 60pt centers in the Top 50 players in the league by cap hit - the Isles are so lucky have the only one.


That would be hilarious, a perennial loser finally gets onto a contender and they are regretting signing him, so now he’s a cap dump to Chicago, that’s going for lotto land repeat in 23/24. Magical.

funny, no goalposts moving here, facts are the kid potted 85 points already and won multiple playoff rounds and collected nhl hardware before the age of 26. That's the value. Time will tell, my brotha have a good summer

 

[SRBisles]

I'm not saying Bailey is even close to Hall in talent. Lou should have moved Bailey right away before something like this happened. With the cap only going up 1M, there are going to be more teams (as we are seeing) going to dump cap....Anyone i.e Johnsson, Hall and whomever is next is 100 times better than Bailey.


I don't care about Boston, Nashville, Calgary or whatever other team does last year or now. My concern is only for the isles and we aren't doing shit. Lou needs to be proactive with cap concerns for many of the teams this offseason.

If there’s one thing Lou can do it’s make players go away. Let’s see how the Bailey situation shakes out before we crucify him.

 

[Glorydays22]

If there’s one thing Lou can do it’s make players go away. Let’s see how the Bailey situation shakes out before we crucify him.

While you may have confident in him doing this. I would ask, where's the proof. The only cap dumps I can think of is Ladd which was 2 2nd rounders and a 3rd. And if you want to consider Toews a cap causality. Either way, I don't have any confidence in Lou at all.

 

[MJF]

And the Bruins were unbeatable last year and made all those moves at the deadline only lose lose in the first round when up 3-1. I mean, there’s perspective.

The Bruins aren’t trying to run it back next year?

 

[Throttle]

funny, no goalposts moving here, facts are the kid potted 85 points already and won multiple playoff rounds and collected nhl hardware before the age of 26. That's the value. Time will tell, my brotha have a good summer

This is pretty analogous to the Laine is 40 goal scorer, after doing it once. The league knows how to play against him, so now he’s a $8.7M 25 goal scorer.

 

[mm11]

goal post moving now to Laine i guess. Time will tell. see ya

 

[Osakahaus]

I think this just says how tough it'll be to trade away Bailey. Damn you salary cap.

 

[Throttle]

goal post moving now to Laine i guess. Time will tell. see ya

He potted 85 points behind JT on the worst defensive team in the league in his rookie season. Notice, he hasn’t come close to that, I wonder why.

 

[Throttle]

The Bruins aren’t trying to run it back next year?

Since making the finals 5 years ago, the Isles have gone further than the Bruins 2x in the playoffs in the same window.

The Bruins keep trying to ‘fix’ things, but seems like a lot of ‘change’ for change w/o any results. I mean the coach everyone wanted fired, has a shiny new Cup in his hand.

Sweeney seems to have a bit of fanitis in how he keeps ‘making moves.’

 

[MJF]

Since making the finals 5 years ago, the Isles have gone further than the Bruins 2x in the playoffs in the same window.

The Bruins keep trying to ‘fix’ things, but seems like a lot of ‘change’ for change w/o any results. I mean the coach everyone wanted fired, has a shiny new Cup in his hand.

Sweeney seems to have a bit of fanitis in how he keeps ‘making moves.’

And the Islanders have 9 players on the roster that have been here since at least 2015 and still haven’t won squat.

I realize you don’t make change for change sake, but I didn’t think the Islanders would become a jobs program.

 

[PK Cronin]

While you may have confident in him doing this. I would ask, where's the proof. The only cap dumps I can think of is Ladd which was 2 2nd rounders and a 3rd. And if you want to consider Toews a cap causality. Either way, I don't have any confidence in Lou at all.

He's done it his entire career, this take is really bad and wreaks of "what have you done for me lately."

Moving Bailey is the best option, just letting him walk at the end of next season is also an option that costs nothing for a team "isn't going to win the cup anyway."

The Bruins aren’t trying to run it back next year?

I'm sure they would, they're just not able to.

 

[mm11]

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He potted 85 points behind JT on the worst defensive team in the league in his rookie season. Notice, he hasn’t come close to that, I wonder why.

your the best man. Love the passion. Totally got me. So I guess, having more talent around #13 increased his numbers? Answers that concern I guess. Enjoy the day brother

He potted 85 points behind JT on the worst defensive team in the league in his rookie season. Notice, he hasn’t come close to that, I wonder why.

he outscored JT, by mid season he as the one playing infront of #91 not behind

 

[Glorydays22]

He's done it his entire career, this take is really bad and wreaks of "what have you done for me lately."

Moving Bailey is the best option, just letting him walk at the end of next season is also an option that costs nothing for a team "isn't going to win the cup anyway."



I'm sure they would, they're just not able to.

I don't care what he did 20 years ago with the Devils. Please give me some explains on how he help the Isles with cap issues?

That's fine if you want to keep Bailey on the roster for 1 more year. I personally would bury him in the minors...but whatever.

But I don't want to hear anyone say we are trying to win the Stanley cup either then. Because I agree with you, we have none, zero chance of wining anything with this roster. You can bring back Mayfield and Engvall, still aren't winning anything.

 

[Osakahaus]

Bailey takes the Ross role, and we let the kids play if they cannot trade him. Thankfully his contract ends next season, and the UFA crop is better. Let the kids play instead of him.

 

[PK Cronin]

I don't care what he did 20 years ago with the Devils. Please give me some explains on how he help the Isles with cap issues?

Robidas Island wasn't 20 years ago or with the Devils. Ladd was made to go away and people thought it would cost a lot more than it did. Komarov was also made to go away. How many examples do you need of someone doing a good job of getting rid of bad contracts? Again, this is just "what have you done for me lately."

That's fine if you want to keep Bailey on the roster for 1 more year. I personally would bury him in the minors...but whatever.

But I don't want to hear anyone say we are trying to win the Stanley cup either then. Because I agree with you, we have none, zero chance of wining anything with this roster. You can bring back Mayfield and Engvall, still aren't winning anything.

There's no sense in getting worked up about something before it happens. There aren't even any rumblings of what might happen.

Bailey takes the Ross role, and we let the kids play if they cannot trade him. Thankfully his contract ends next season, and the UFA crop is better. Let the kids play instead of him.

I'm not interested in paying a premium to move Bailey for exactly that reason. If he can't be moved for a reasonable price then it's just better to deal with it for another year and let the contract expire. Paying to move him for the current UFA crop, even the Islanders' UFAs, doesn't make a ton of sense to me. That cap space needs to be put to good use if they're moving him so I hope it'll be a precursor to another deal.

 

[MJF]

I'm sure they would, they're just not able to.

I shoulda used the sarcasm smiley.

 

[Glorydays22]

Robidas Island wasn't 20 years ago or with the Devils. Ladd was made to go away and people thought it would cost a lot more than it did. Komarov was also made to go away. How many examples do you need of someone doing a good job of getting rid of bad contracts? Again, this is just "what have you done for me lately."



There's no sense in getting worked up about something before it happens. There aren't even any rumblings of what might happen.

I don't consider 2 2nd rounders and a 3rd a good deal for us regarding Ladd. Go back and look at the board everyone here was killing Lou every year after making this move. What did he do for Komarov, he send him down to Bridgeport. Komarov decided he didn't want to stay in the minors and when over seas. Do you see Lou sending down Bailey?? I'm all for it.

I'm getting worked up because there was some possible opportunities here on the cheap. But I think Lou falls a sleep for months. You'll see him at the draft, after that, next time you'll hear from him is at training camp. While other gms are actively out there. And if you say how do I know he isn't. Well isn't if funny during the offseason you'll hear from the media and beat writers about teams talking. Never about the isles though.

Just like you, all I want is this team to win. But I think Lou is way past his prime and it's really hurting us now. Yes, I'll give all the credit in the world to Lou when he first came here....and mainly because he brought in a HF coach who was able to get 110% out of the roster that was basically the same the year before (minus JT)....which was incredible that Trotz was able to bring this team to 2 conference championships.

 

[IslesNorway]

Bailey takes the Ross role, and we let the kids play if they cannot trade him. Thankfully his contract ends next season, and the UFA crop is better. Let the kids play instead of him.

He will be bought out if they can't trade him, and I have a hard time seeing they will be able to.

 

[periferal]

I think this just says how tough it'll be to trade away Bailey. Damn you salary cap.

Blaming the salary cap is a take.

Also still trying to figure out why moving our 9th leading scorer, on a team that needs more scoring, and despite "missing" /being sat for 18 games is such a priority...Given it will probably cost an additional asset to do so.

When you have so little assets to give up not sure that's the best way to GM.

 

[Osakahaus]

He will be bought out if they can't trade him, and I have a hard time seeing they will be able to.

Better to just let him go to 13th forward, and deal someone else (like Aho) to clear up space. Bailey isn't getting moved that easily, not right now and not in the buyout window.