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Speculation: Roster Building Thread XI

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I’m a bit surprised so many people think 5 years for Mika is realistic

With his injury/concussion history I’d be gunning for as many years as possible right now
 
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Off Sides said:
There is another avenue, bridge the player to where he has two RFA year left.

Example

A player has 4 RFA years left. (Chytil, he has accrued 3 of the 7 NHL seasons to reach UFA status)

Example 1, Receives a three year bridge, he will have one RFA year left at contracts end. (Buchnevich) Player sees UFA a year away and can get there in a year either by simply signing his qualifier or going through arbitration.

Example 2, Receives a two year bridge, he will have two RFA years left at that contracts end. Player in order to reach UFA either has to take two 1 year deals, or one 2 year deal. Team simply does not offer a 2 year deal. Either make him play out those 2 individual RFA years or entice him to sign something longer term that buys up some UFA years.
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Agreed. I do think that jumping in long term is the right move with certain players though. Chytil is one for me.
 
Inferno said:
Opening? Not me

I'd offer 4x9 or 8x6.5. Then go up from there...I'd prefer to settle in at the numbers you listed. I love Mika but first half Mika showed what could be the last several years of that contract.
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An opening offer needs to be careful. If you start from too low a position you immediately show that you don't value the player and the player can just decide to walk to UFA in this scenario. Mika doesn't have to negotiate with us, so making a lowball offer which he finds insulting such as 8x.6.5 could be a bad move.
 
NYR Viper said:
My opening round of offers would probably be:

5 years @ $9m per season = $45m
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8 years @ $7.5m per season = $60m
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Thats too rich in term in one and dollars in the other. I love Mika but he's a bystander when things get tough, id love to have him here but he can't be making kucherov type money. Im not sure what the solution is if he won't waive his no move except taking him off pp1 and playing him with scrubs until he waives it but a 7 or 8 year contract for him will kill us when we need that cap space. His concussion issues are a real problem.
 
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Crease said:
I’d like to see more from Chytil before giving him a long-term deal. Maybe I’m still spooked by the Skjei deal.
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Not sure what more we need to see.

Posting 2C numbers at ES.

He puts up 50 points without the benefit of significant PP time, we are not getting him under 5
 
Oscar Lindberg said:
I’m a bit surprised so many people think 5 years for Mika is realistic

With his injury/concussion history I’d be gunning for as many years as possible right now
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I hate to say it because I absolutely love Mika, but if he will only take over 6 years I think you have a discussion about what he's worth on the trade market and how you replace him. Just seems like we all know what will happen if he gets 8 years.
 
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Bacon Artemi Bravo said:
I hate to say it because I absolutely love Mika, but if he will only take over 6 years I think you have a discussion about what he's worth on the trade market and how you replace him. Just seems like we all know what will happen if he gets 8 years.
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Edge and a few others have made comments that are basically, some contracts you make knowing you're buying out the end of that deal. This might be one of them. Make it clear to mika that the back end of the contract needs to be buyout friendly. He gets his term and years, but the front of the deal is loaded up, so that its a smaller dead cap w/o signing bonuses so that it can just be bought out.
 
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Bacon Artemi Bravo said:
I hate to say it because I absolutely love Mika, but if he will only take over 6 years I think you have a discussion about what he's worth on the trade market and how you replace him. Just seems like we all know what will happen if he gets 8 years.
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Yeah, I love Mika, but I'm not offering him 8 years regardless of the AAV. 8 years takes him to age 37. 6 is the absolute max for me, and I'd push hard for 5.
 
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IDvsEGO said:
Edge and a few others have made comments that are basically, some contracts you make knowing you're buying out the end of that deal. This might be one of them. Make it clear to mika that the back end of the contract needs to be buyout friendly. He gets his term and years, but the front of the deal is loaded up, so that its a smaller dead cap w/o signing bonuses so that it can just be bought out.
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with kids entering their big paydays at that point can this org afford to schedule dead money at that point?
 
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IDvsEGO said:
An opening offer needs to be careful. If you start from too low a position you immediately show that you don't value the player and the player can just decide to walk to UFA in this scenario. Mika doesn't have to negotiate with us, so making a lowball offer which he finds insulting such as 8x.6.5 could be a bad move.
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Any contract taking a player to his mid 30s needs to be, by necessity, lower than reasonable.
 
We get a truly special player in Panarin and all of a sudden fans think every other player on the roster needs to be an every game performer.

There’s only a handful of those types of consistency guys in the league
 
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GAGLine said:
Yeah, I love Mika, but I'm not offering him 8 years regardless of the AAV. 8 years takes him to age 37. 6 is the absolute max for me, and I'd push hard for 5.
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With all these prospects, shame on the Rangers if they botch their cap and rebuild by extending expensive veterans into their mid-30’s.

it really would be the dumbest moment in Rangers history. Announce a rebuild and botch the rebuild by extending veterans they didn’t part ways with.

Zibby short term or trade kids for a center. Imo
 
EdJovanovski said:
Habs fans think Suzuki is worth Laf + Kakko + Miller hahah this fake Stanley cup run really has them out to lunch :laugh: doubt they make the playoffs next year.

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They were notably being sarcastic. They were just making the point they dont want to trade him, and in all seriousness after watching chytil nearly every game and then watching suzuki through the playoffs I take suzuki 10/10 to win a championship regardless what these charts show...
 
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bleedblue94 said:
They were notably being sarcastic. They were just making the point they dont want to trade him, and in all seriousness after watching chytil nearly every game and then watching suzuki through the playoffs I take suzuki 10/10 to win a championship regardless what these charts show...
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I would take whichever player is on the better team to win a championship.
 
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bleedblue94 said:
They were notably being sarcastic. They were just making the point they dont want to trade him, and in all seriousness after watching chytil nearly every game and then watching suzuki through the playoffs I take suzuki 10/10 to win a championship regardless what these charts show...
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Multiple posters were saying it starts with Laf, they legitimately believe Suzuki is worth Laf++. They are saying a thread should be locked for offering Chytil, Lundkvist & Jones for Suzuki lmao which is an absolute robery for the Habs
 
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