Rumor: Planning Ahead: 2019 Off-Season Part 2

[KingsFan7824]

I agree but the only beef I have with it is that Blake can sell it as either.

Would that be a problem though? As long as they get a young asset or two, sell the Marleau name all day long to hopefully get anyone to buy tickets. Talk about Marleau's potential HoF career in every ad. We have one of the best players of his generation! Come watch him! That's great! If he went and got Kessel, on the other hand, who is still productive, giving the Penguins anything that is cheap, young, and good, then grill the beef.

The Kings should be bringing in any bad contract, as long as they're getting someone with potential to help in the 24-25 season. Marleau, Lucic, Ladd, etc, bring 'em all. Of course the longer the contract, the more potential the asset has to have.

 

[KingCanadain1976]

I think Iafallo makes the most sense heading back to me. Cheap rfa that Toronto may not even resign. With Kovy (who can play rw) Gunderson clifford and maleau all playing the lw side and brown lewis Luff all capable of playing it It makes sense to me he would be the one to go.

wow frist malkin then kessel now maleau this has been a weird off season rumor mill for a team trying to get to the 24 25 age average

 

[BigKing]

I think Iafallo makes the most sense heading back to me. Cheap rfa that Toronto may not even resign. With Kovy (who can play rw) Gunderson clifford and maleau all playing the lw side and brown lewis Luff all capable of playing it It makes sense to me he would be the one to go.

wow frist malkin then kessel now maleau this has been a weird off season rumor mill for a team trying to get to the 24 25 age average

Iafallo is the crown jewel of Blake's tenure so far and is exactly the type of player the Kings need to have now and moving forward: cheap and productive in relation to his cap hit.

 

[KingCanadain1976]

Iafallo is the crown jewel of Blake's tenure so far and is exactly the type of player the Kings need to have now and moving forward: cheap and productive in relation to his cap hit.

Yes but turning him into a 2nd round pick and a better lw prospect make him expendable to me


edit I would trade him for Maleau Dmytro Timashov and a 2020 2nd round pick

 

[Reaper45]

Yes but turning him into a 2nd round pick and a better lw prospect make him expendable to me


edit I would trade him for Maleau Dmytro Timashov and a 2020 2nd round pick

But why trade a known thing for a question mark? No. If Toronto needs to move him or him and Zaitsev it's for assets and then cut/trade/buy out the laundry list of guys. Carter, Phaneuf, Lewis etc. What people dont realize is that maybe they get a couple of prospects they really like for taking those 2 contracts which allows them to soften their stance/asking price on trading Carter or Martinez.

 

[BigKing]

Yes but turning him into a 2nd round pick and a better lw prospect make him expendable to me


edit I would trade him for Maleau Dmytro Timashov and a 2020 2nd round pick

I just don't think you need to include Iafallo or anyone that has possible value to the Kings two seasons from now. If there is a desperate team in this scenario, it is Toronto. Blake doesn't need to host Marleau for a season but Toronto needs to shed salary right now.

Even with your edit, we could be talking Marleau for Iafallo straight up when all is said and done. Blake should be ridiculed if he gives away a young, cost-controlled proven NHL player with value when Toronto is just looking to clear salary.

 

[KingCanadain1976]

But why trade a known thing for a question mark? No. If Toronto needs to move him or him and Zaitsev it's for assets and then cut/trade/buy out the laundry list of guys. Carter, Phaneuf, Lewis etc. What people dont realize is that maybe they get a couple of prospects they really like for taking those 2 contracts which allows them to soften their stance/asking price on trading Carter or Martinez.

We do not need him any longer. We have much better lw on the roster then Iafallo Kovy Gunstrom Marleau and Clifford with Brown Lewis and Lepecsic all capable of playing that position. He simply isnt needed at all. Yes Lewis would probably be a better choice but i don't see them trading the teams unsung hero after a injury filled year. Also toronto isnt taking much cap back so ur dreaming to think carter . And i wouldnt trade martinez till deadline. to many green d

 

[KingCanadain1976]

I just don't think you need to include Iafallo or anyone that has possible value to the Kings two seasons from now. If there is a desperate team in this scenario, it is Toronto. Blake doesn't need to host Marleau for a season but Toronto needs to shed salary right now.

Even with your edit, we could be talking Marleau for Iafallo straight up when all is said and done. Blake should be ridiculed if he gives away a young, cost-controlled proven NHL player with value when Toronto is just looking to clear salary.

As said above we no longer need iafallo when getting Marleau Make out a lineup with him. He don't fit . Lewis is going to get his playing time back in bottom 6 Remember he was only hurt and isnt going to loose his spot.

 

[johnjm22]

So far we have

• Knows TM
• One of his kids loves the kings
• Most likely to get traded to a contender during the deadline

Yup, he's going to become a king. Better get a good draft pick or prospect.

Blake also played with Marleau. They're probably friends. Blake also pursued his buddy Thornton.

 

[Fishhead]

We do not need him any longer. We have much better lw on the roster then Iafallo Kovy Gunstrom Marleau and Clifford with Brown Lewis and Lepecsic all capable of playing that position. He simply isnt needed at all. Yes Lewis would probably be a better choice but i don't see them trading the teams unsung hero after a injury filled year. Also toronto isnt taking much cap back so ur dreaming to think carter . And i wouldnt trade martinez till deadline. to many green d

Iafallo is better than Lewis, Clifford, and Leipsic. He's on par with Marleau. Grundstrom is a good comparable, but he has room to develop. Kovy still has skills but who knows for how long.

There's no reason to get rid of the guy whenn 3 years, when everyone you listed will likely be gone sans Brown, who will be 36, and Grundstrom. Leipsic is at best a maybe.

Marleau doesn't make sense unless it he comes with something to entice the Kings to help Toronto out.

 

[KingCanadain1976]

Iafallo is better than Lewis, Clifford, and Leipsic. He's on par with Marleau. Grundstrom is a good comparable, but he has room to develop. Kovy still has skills but who knows for how long.

There's no reason to get rid of the guy whenn 3 years, when everyone you listed will likely be gone sans Brown, who will be 36, and Grundstrom. Leipsic is at best a maybe.

Marleau doesn't make sense unless it he comes with something to entice the Kings to help Toronto out.

Again make out a lineup and tell me where he fits I am open to keep him but seriously hes not needed He will not beat out clifford or Lewis (even thou maybe he should debatable)

 

[Fishhead]

Again make out a lineup and tell me where he fits I am open to keep him but seriously hes not needed He will not beat out clifford or Lewis (even thou maybe he should debatable)

It doesn't really matter what next year's lineup is, the team needs to focus on a few years down the road. They can play guys out of position for all I care, that will only result in a better draft position.

 

[KingCanadain1976]

It doesn't really matter what next year's lineup is, the team needs to focus on a few years down the road. They can play guys out of position for all I care, that will only result in a better draft position.

replaceing Iafallo with Marleau will help insure a good draft position to me and it opens a spot at the deadline for a ahl player to come in Dmytro Timashov possibly

 

[AzKing]

A Marleau for Clifford, Forbort, and Lewis deal could make sense for Toronto. They can use Forbort next year on defense with Gardiner walking or they could buy out all three and only have a 1.7 mil cap hit compared to the 6.25 they have with Marleau.

The Kings won’t trade Clifford under any circumstances. It’s been put out there that they view him as a key player for leadership and he plays hard every night.

I keep thinking that they will save Forbort to be the one they expose in an expansion draft.

 

[BigKing]

Again make out a lineup and tell me where he fits I am open to keep him but seriously hes not needed He will not beat out clifford or Lewis (even thou maybe he should debatable)

Are you worried about next season?

I'm pretty sure they will find a spot for the guy that has played the majority of minutes at LW1, even if he should not be in that position.

I've always been one to throw a little cold water on Iafallo's offensive ceiling as I've described him as a souped-up Trevor Lewis, but he will be 26 in December and scored 15 goals last season. Why do you give away a useful asset to pick up a "maybe" along with a camp dump in Marleau?

Just ask for the prospect for Marleau straight-up. Add Lewis if you want. If you are worried about finding a spot for Marleau, you won't be having to worry about finding a spot for Leipsic.

 

[johnjm22]

Lewis scored 14 goals in 68 games (17 goal pace) while playing bottom/middle six minutes.

Iafallo's career high is 15 goals in 82 games while playing on the top line and getting PP time.

 

[KingCanadain1976]

Are you worried about next season?

I'm pretty sure they will find a spot for the guy that has played the majority of minutes at LW1, even if he should not be in that position.

I've always been one to throw a little cold water on Iafallo's offensive ceiling as I've described him as a souped-up Trevor Lewis, but he will be 26 in December and scored 15 goals last season. Why do you give away a useful asset to pick up a "maybe" along with a camp dump in Marleau?

Just ask for the prospect for Marleau straight-up. Add Lewis if you want. If you are worried about finding a spot for Marleau, you won't be having to worry about finding a spot for Leipsic.

Iafallo does not fill a need any more we have more forward then we need Lewis is never being added This has been the teams unsung hero for more years then not. Lets not forget u have to find a spot for Prohorkins as well.

Brown Kopitar Carter
KOvy Prohorkins toffoli
Gunderstom Kempe lewis wager
Clifford amadio lewis /wagner
Luff
where does Iafallo fit ?

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

 

[Choralone]

Lewis scored 14 goals in 68 games (17 goal pace) while playing bottom/middle six minutes.

Iafallo's career high is 15 goals in 82 games while playing on the top line and getting PP time.

That's a bit disingenuous. Iafallo's career high you listed , was last season whereas the numbers you give for Lewis were for season before last. Last season Lewis scored 3 goals in 44 games (6-goal pace). Iafallo is 25, Lewis is 32.

 

[KingsHockey24]

That's a bit disingenuous. Iafallo's career high you listed , was last season whereas the numbers you give for Lewis were for season before last. Last season Lewis scored 3 goals in 44 games (6-goal pace). Iafallo is 25, Lewis is 32.

Lewis doesn't really provide much anymore.

He's a good PK'er but that's about it. He's not overly physical or fast.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Trevor Lewis is still a King? Never noticed him last season.

 

[Fishhead]

Iafallo does not fill a need any more we have more forward then we need Lewis is never being added This has been the teams unsung hero for more years then not. Lets not forget u have to find a spot for Prohorkins as well.

Brown Kopitar Carter
KOvy Prohorkins toffoli
Gunderstom Kempe lewis wager
Clifford amadio lewis /wagner
Luff
where does Iafallo fit ?

2 of Toffoli, Lewis, and Clifford are going to be gone after next season, if not all 3, so he will fit in one of those spots. Why get rid of a known quantity for a question mark?

 

[Fishhead]

That's a bit disingenuous. Iafallo's career high you listed , was last season whereas the numbers you give for Lewis were for season before last. Last season Lewis scored 3 goals in 44 games (6-goal pace). Iafallo is 25, Lewis is 32.

And 14 goals is Lewis's high, he's generally a single digit goal scorer. Even when he's occasionally been on the top lines he's shown that's not his game, he's a different type of player. Iafallo has 40 point potential at a good salary. Not sure why the Kings would ever consider trading him at this point.

 

[johnjm22]

Iafallo's career high you listed , was last season whereas the numbers you give for Lewis were for season before last. Last season Lewis scored 3 goals in 44 games (6-goal pace). Iafallo is 25, Lewis is 32.

Everyone knows this already.

 

[crassbonanza]

The one portion of the rumor that makes me believe that it is fairly loose is the insistence that the Kings want to offload a longer term contract that is less money than Marleau in exchange. There are only a few players that could be: Brown, Carter, Phaneuf, Martinez, Quick. Brown, Carter, Phaneuf and Quick are barely less than Marleau, so I can't imagine it would be them. That leaves Martinez, but he still has value around the league and only has one extra year. The fact that LeBrun is so committed to the fact that the Kings want to move some contract in exchange leads me to believe that this may be LeBrun tossing shit at the wall. I could buy it if the Kings were taking a 2nd round pick and Marleau in exchange for a 7th, but I don't see the trade being centered around the teams essentially exchanging term for AAV.