Proposal: Pietrangelo for Nylander

[stl76]

Blues add big. Nylander would instantly become the Blues top forward, and probably their best forward in franchise history. While Petro is good he would be 2nd fiddle to Zaitsev on the right side in a couple years from now when Toronto will be playing in the SC finals.
Look at the last two conn smythe winners, Crosby and Kane. Is it that hard to see that that's where Nylander is headed? Toronto needs to keep him.

LOL. Omg this post is ****ing gold

 

[McDavidCrushedLarkin]

LOL. Omg this post is ****ing gold

No worries Leafs fans used to say the same thing about Bozak being traded to the Oilers and how he was better than Nuge/Hall ect.

 

[PaulGG]

A young unproven player is just not going to return a top defender straight up. I like Nylander but just no. Anyway it would be good for Toronto to trade a forward or two and shore up their weak D.

 

[nbwingsfan]

Leafs decline. While this is a great trade for us, he is just entering his prime. This means when the Leaf are ready to compete in 3-5 years, he will be past his prime and on the decline. Meanwhile Nylander will just be hitting his.

We'd need someone closer to Nylanders age to make that trade.

Today I learned 26 years old is too old...

Do people not realize basically every cup winner the past 10+ years has a core ranging in age and not just a bunch of kids?

Blues wouldn't trade Petro for Nylander, he'd cost more than that, as much as we love Nylander this really isn't close

I'm glad not every Leafs fan knows a sample size of 11 games doesn't mean a player is now worth a young #1D

 

[Halla]

the leafs arent trading the leading candidate for ROY.

12 pts in 12 games, 18pts in his last 17.


also someone suggested Matthews +? just end this thread now. the nylander ship sailed when blues fans wanted Nylander + Tor 1st unprotected for Paryako

 

[Man Bear Pig]

No worries Leafs fans used to say the same thing about Bozak being traded to the Oilers and how he was better than Nuge/Hall ect.

Uh huh. And Oilers fans used to pump the tires on the value of Yakupov. Glass houses...stones

 

[Halla]

Today I learned 26 years old is too old...

Do people not realize basically every cup winner the past 10+ years has a core ranging in age and not just a bunch of kids?



I'm glad not every Leafs fan knows a sample size of 11 games doesn't mean a player is now worth a young #1D

we could go by 23 pts in 24 games dating back to last season. Nylanders .74ppg in his 34 game career crushes just about everyone in his draft class. the next best of the top 15 are draisaitl,ehlers, and larkin who all come in about .54-.55ppg. Nylander goes nowhere

 

[Halla]

A young unproven player is just not going to return a top defender straight up. I like Nylander but just no. Anyway it would be good for Toronto to trade a forward or two and shore up their weak D.

when was the last time a rebuilding team traded a rookie of the year candidate. doesnt get much more dumb than that.

 

[jaric1862]

Who do the Blues value more Pietranlgo or Parayko

 

[Man Bear Pig]

we could go by 23 pts in 24 games dating back to last season. Nylanders .74ppg in his 34 game career crushes just about everyone in his draft class. the next best of the top 15 are draisaitl,ehlers, and larkin who all come in about .54-.55ppg. Nylander goes nowhere

Don't waste your time with him, believe me.

 

[Dbrownss]

Who do the Blues value more Pietranlgo or Parayko

Irrelevant, neither would be or are available

 

[Halla]

Don't waste your time with him, believe me.

but,but, but he is not proven.

when was the last time the leading rookie scorer was traded?
when was the last #1 pick to be traded a dozen games into his career.

this is just awful. draft and develop. Matthews,Nylander,Marner,Rielly are going absolutely nowhere. leafs have a couple years to find a dman through draft or trade. patience will be used

 

[Morbo]

I don't think either is available so any debate is academic.

 

[Halla]

Nylander for Parayko is fair and fits the needs and age groups for both teams while dealing from a position of strength for each.

that ship sailed a long time ago. the leafs will look to improve their D without moving Matthews/Nylander/Marner. draft seems like the best bet.

 

[Apotheosis]

I hope this was a joke.

Look at the lottery numbers above his name. That should explain everything.

 

[jaric1862]

Irrelevant, neither would be or are available

Ok i was just wondering lol, wasnt trying to compile a trade proposal

 

[McWeber]

Kinda surprised how many Leaf fans are against this. A young #1 RHD who is a few years older than your fwd core and signed to a good contract, I would have traded Hall for Pietrangelo ten times over and Nylander hasn't had any top 10 in NHL scoring seasons just yet.

 

[Man Bear Pig]

Kinda surprised how many Leaf fans are against this. A young #1 RHD who is a few years older than your fwd core and signed to a good contract, I would have traded Hall for Pietrangelo ten times over and Nylander hasn't had any top 10 in NHL scoring seasons just yet.

I'd do the deal, no doubt. But, I understand why some wouldn't. You have a chance to keep a potentially elite forward core together and there's simply no rush to trade for a #1 D. For the time being, you can keep swinging for the fences at the draft and hope you land that Duncan Keith or P.K Subban.

 

[Weast]

I mean he has been a consistent PPG player in every league he plays in. He has 30 points in 30 games I believe so far or very close to that (Might be high 20's).

Nylander is a franchise forward. Some people just can't accept the Leafs are going to be good.

He has 25 points in 34 games.
He has been PPG in the AHL, but not in the SHL or in Sweden, so calling him a consistent PPG player in every league is plain wrong.

 

[MoreMogilny]

Kinda surprised how many Leaf fans are against this. A young #1 RHD who is a few years older than your fwd core and signed to a good contract, I would have traded Hall for Pietrangelo ten times over and Nylander hasn't had any top 10 in NHL scoring seasons just yet.

I think the hesitation comes from not wanting to move another young player before we know what we have in him.

Matthews, Marner, Nylander, Zaitsev, etc. All first year players that could be huge parts of the lineup going forward.

It's hard to want to pull the trigger and move a guy before you even get a chance to see how all of these young players pan out. We've made countless errors trading away young players in recent history. Heck, the Blues have one of them (Steen).

The Leafs are finally turning around and injecting actual talented youth into the lineup. While defense is an obvious weak spot right now, who knows where it'll be several years from now when we still have these young players as cost controlled assets.

It's moot anyways, as the Blues would never entertain it, but I see the logic in not wanting to jump all over a trade like this from the other side too.

 

[Ciao]

I'd rather the Leafs build from within. Not interested in this proposal.

 

[McDavidCrushedLarkin]

Uh huh. And Oilers fans used to pump the tires on the value of Yakupov. Glass houses...stones

The difference is Oiler fans were never trying to say Yakupov would instantly be the best player on the Leafs like Leafs fans were saying with Bozak to Oilers fans.

At least now you have players to pump, but times were pretty tough when you had to pretend Bozak was god.

 

[Kurisu]

Would be nice if leaf fans stopping making proposals. I've never seen a good one posted here.

 

[Revelation]

that ship sailed a long time ago. the leafs will look to improve their D without moving Matthews/Nylander/Marner. draft seems like the best bet.

If Blues offer Parayko I don't see how the leafs don't jump on it.

They can get by with Matthews/Marner/Kadri/Kapanen/all their other forward prospects/2017 1st rounder, Parayko would fill their biggest hole about as well as possible.

 

[zar]

Uh huh. And Oilers fans used to pump the tires on the value of Yakupov. Glass houses...stones

That was true a few years ago. Every fan base pumps the tires of their prospects... the Oiler ones were just under more scrutiny because they were 1OA and this is HF.

when was the last time a rebuilding team traded a rookie of the year candidate. doesnt get much more dumb than that.

When was the last time an NHL rookie point leader was traded? Never. The better question is when was the last time a top 15 Dman was traded for an 8OA in his draft +2 season with 34 NHL GP? Max Domi had 26P in his first 34 GP (.76PPG) too... would you trade Domi for Pietrangelo? Once again, Domi is a good player but Pietrangelo holds more value guaranteed.

I want it made clear, I like Nylander and think he will have an excellent career but Pietrangelo's value today > Nylander value today, no doubt.