Injury Report: Matt Murray is day-to-day - Head Injury
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ShaneFalco
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Right so don't try and have some insurance in net, because even the Vezina goalies can lose
Larcos_Unal
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The fact that Freddie is ranked 4th is all you need to know about this graphic
Woll as a plan C isn't bad. He's been top notch at both the Ahl and NHL level this year. Hutch was the plan B Babs once had! Quinn had Healy as a plan B!
Our top 3 aren't bad overall. Though is there another team that seems more likely to need to resort to plan C more than us? Doesn't seem like it.
acrobaticgoalie
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How many teams have 3 strater quality tenders going into playoffs?Right so don't try and have some insurance in net, because even the Vezina goalies can lose
Boston has 2 with their 3rd string being a journeyman tweener in Kinkaid.
Tampa only has 1 in Vasy. Their backup is 37 yr old Brian Elliott with his .897sv%
NYR has one in Shesterkin with their backup being a 37 yr old Halak with his .900sv%.
NJ, do you consider any of their goalies starter quality? Vanecek has never started more than 42 games and has a .910sv%. Blackwood has been inconsistent and can't stay healthy. Schmid is a 22 yr old AHLer.
Carolina has Andersen who is injury prone and has a .903sv%. Raanta who is injury prone and has a .908sv% and a rookie goalie who has had a good year moving up and down like Woll.
I think we are fine with our 3 goalies all having solid seasons. Murray just needs to be healthy come playoff time if Samsonov gets hurt.
Petrus
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Thank you for putting our situation into proper perspective!
Hoping to see Woll get more opportunities in the meantime.
Racer88
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Yup. That’s how Dubas rolls, goaltending is an afterthought
That’s one of the big differences between us and the Bruins. They routinely have some of the best goalies in the league and ours are reclamation projects from the scrap heap
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Martin Skoula
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If he’s not starting much, other teams not knowing his flaws well will give him a game or two of over performing his abilities.
The book on Murray and Samsonov is their glove and getting them moving too much, Woll looks like he has a good glove and robotic positioning. If the guy was on the other team we’d be calling for him to be an obvious shut out against us because we always give random 3rd stringers their first shutout.
First of all, I’m not saying that Woll is Ken Dryden, but Ken Dryden played just 6 NHL games before playing in the 1971 playoffs, helping the. Canadiens win the Stanley Cup, and winning the Conn Smythe.
There may be others over the years but Dryden was the first one to come to mind.
There may be others over the years but Dryden was the first one to come to mind.
Dayjobdave
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I still remember how sad Bobby and the other big bad bruins looked when they were eliminated
ShaneFalco
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why do we always have to say, yeah but look at this team....
Murray can't stay healthy....period
I know some are gushing about Woll but he has 3 games this year
It's a big gamble - and the way this team plays they always need high end 'tending.
67Cup
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Rogatien Vachon had played 19 games when he took over the Habs net in the 66-67 season. Punch Imlach if the Leafs mocked him as a “Junior B goalie” to shake his confidence. As it turned out, the Habs lost the finals to the geriatric Leafs that season, but Vachon played very well in the Habs net. He had a Hall of Fame career overall.
Still, I don’t know if examples from seasons so long ago are all that applicable in the present. However, I do think Woll is not some fresh faced youngster who doesn’t have to shave yet. He is a promising 3rd string goalie. Any team would be in trouble if they had to run out their third goalie in the playoffs, as many posters have said. Their teams would be hoping for surprise. Woll is as capable of providing the surprise as most if not all 3rd stringers.
Still, I don’t know if examples from seasons so long ago are all that applicable in the present. However, I do think Woll is not some fresh faced youngster who doesn’t have to shave yet. He is a promising 3rd string goalie. Any team would be in trouble if they had to run out their third goalie in the playoffs, as many posters have said. Their teams would be hoping for surprise. Woll is as capable of providing the surprise as most if not all 3rd stringers.
Larcos_Unal
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Da Cool Rula
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I just think the Leafs are doing everything possible to hand him(Murray) the #1 gig.
Like some have mentioned it seems Sammy just can't handle the long grind. Looks good for a couple games then..... he seems to lose it.
Conditioning? Maybe.
Like some have mentioned it seems Sammy just can't handle the long grind. Looks good for a couple games then..... he seems to lose it.
Conditioning? Maybe.
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However sometimes with a goalie that is a benefit as the league doesn't have a lot of film as so weaknesses and strengths unknown.
Ken Dryden came into the Canadiens fold playing just 6 regular season games and then leading them the Stanley Cup for example.
However the thing that is concerning with Murray is that first season was his best season. Then next year he split games with MA Fleury playing the majority and after that with each passing playoff year and more injuries mount Murray has gotten weaker than weaker.. His last 2 years with the Pens in the playoffs he got swept in 4 straight to NYI, and then lost 3 games to 1 against Montreal the lowest ranked team in the play-in round,
So Murray last 2 playoffs dating back 3 years his record is 1 win and 7 losses and 2 out in round #1.
Point being rookie Murray who lots of fans focus on is a long way from current Murray 6 years later with a pattern that trends down yearly.
Murray will be great in net in playoffs, assuming he is not HURT, Murray was hurt both series losses in both his 3rd and 4th years as he played hurt (groin) .. da only real issue left is keeping Murray healthy for game 1 .. it will be a battle between Vasi and Murray (2 2time Cup winners) .. i gut a hunch both will take 2 games by themselves each .. this is a 7 game series and I like ROR to win game 7 .. he is best game 7 player in da series
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Adding insult to injury was the fact that Dryden was a Bruins draft pick. They traded him to the Canadiens when he was just 16-years old and then he came back to haunt them.
Several times.
Saw an interesting stat. Edmonton has scored 5,5,5,4,4 goals in Soups last 5 starts and they have garnered 0 points in those 5 games. Poor Soup must be having nightmares.
I think we know what we have with Samsonov and Murray, but I want to see more Woll.
Getting him into more NHL games before playoffs would have been a good idea. I would have tried Murray on the Marlies for a few games.
Getting him into more NHL games before playoffs would have been a good idea. I would have tried Murray on the Marlies for a few games.
