Post-Game Talk: little brain alain @ RANGERS

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3 star

  • Igor Shesterkin

  • Mika Zibanejad

  • Chris Kreider

  • Artemi Panarin

  • Ryan Lindgren

  • Adam Fox

  • Kaapo Kakko

  • Julien Gauthier

  • Dryden Hunt

  • Filip Chytil

  • Alexis Lafreniere

  • Ryan Reaves

  • Barclay Goodrow

  • Jacob Trouba

  • K'Andre Miller

  • Patrik Nemeth

  • Nils Lundkvist

  • Kevin Rooney

  • Ryan Stone


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I might get shit for this, but Nemeth played his best game as a Ranger.

I didn’t notice any glaring mistakes and he didn’t handle the puck like a hot potato.

Update:



So my eyes weren’t deceiving me.

I was thinking that about Nemeth last night, that he had a good game. And Nils too. There was one play I remember late where Nemeth broke up a play in the neutral zone but got pinched by bad puck luck and Nils covered for him on the ensuing break-in. Seemed that the pair had a good night.
 
Yeah I think people are a bit harsh on the 3rd pairing and aren't willing to entertain the idea that they'll grow and get better. I think they've been better, but sure it's stillt ough if they get caught out there against another teams top line, but that is almost always the case with a 3rd pair D. I don't think Jones or someone changes that
 
I might get shit for this, but Nemeth played his best game as a Ranger.

I didn’t notice any glaring mistakes and he didn’t handle the puck like a hot potato.

Update:



So my eyes weren’t deceiving me.

Nemeth and Lundkvist have been much, much better the last two weeks
 
I cringe every time Nemeth attempts to pinch.

i don’t know what Lundkvist does well.

they were average at best, Game score doesn’t magically change everything
 
While all true, they were the only pair that wasn't bad, the eye test confirmed that.
Not being the worst shouldn’t be an achievement.

We had an ugly game. Hopefully they can maintain their averageness against better teams
 
Does he really leave fewer rebounds? I feel like his rebound control isn't elite and Hank was good at it.
With Hank playing deep, relying on reflexes, and not great at catching the puck baseball style, he left alot of juicy rebounds, but he was lightning fast to read them and stop them too (playing deep allows super quick side to side movement). He often had no interest in focusing on rebound control and just focused on keeping the puck out of the net. For example, instead of lunging to cover a rebounded puck and risk being out of position (Philly goal last night), he would wait deep in his net, stick down, leaving no space for the opposition to shoot if they got to the rebound before our guys did. I think our team realizes Igor is amazing at stopping unscreened first shots (he's great at seeing through screens too) but he does leave some big rebounds on bad angle low shots, and our D focuses on keeping his sightlines open, and tying up sticks around the net to give Igor a chance to get into position for the rebound. Igor is really good at absorbing the puck with his chest and not leaving rebounds on those shots, something that Hank wasn't really focused on when he played- he was all about 'stop the damn puck' and worry after about dealing with whatever comes after.

Low shots are still a bit of a struggle for Igor with rebounds. Hank was very good though at using his stick on lower shots more than his pads to deflect them to the side boards or more often out of play. The Tor broadcast crew (or maybe mtrl) pointed that out in our first game against them this year, that goalies in general prefer to stick the puck and deflect it as that allows control of the rebound, versus last ditch pad saves which are basically passes off the goalie (like the game winning ot goal against Hank in OT). That's why our D focuses so much on typing up sticks so those fat rebounds have rarely ended up in our net this year. Kakko shot it off Hart's pads last night from in deep, always a good play when no passing seams are open, and the puck came right off the pads perfectly to Mika, a bit too hot to handle for him though.

Igor is great, but our team D right now seems way better than anything Hank had to play with, and focuses on working synergistically with Igor, aside from the ridiculous Torts 6 goalie system that gave Hank great numbers but too little scoring support. That system kept us hemmed in the zone too long blocking point bomb after point bomb, fatiguing Hank and everyone else on the team, especially in the POs.
 
Not being the worst shouldn’t be an achievement.

We had an ugly game. Hopefully they can maintain their averageness against better teams

Well they graded out better than average yesterday.

It's been a bit of a roller coaster for them the last few weeks and there has been a concerted effort to shelter Nils (he played 9 minutes at ES in Boston) but I'll take up and down over just bad.
 
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Down from Bingo for a couple of days related to work so got to get to last nights game. Didn't get to Garden last year, absolute killer. Will be trying to get back after the New Years a few times. Nothing ever beats an NHL game live, if you know the game, you can just pick up so much more. Poetry in motion, especially when you catch a good one.

Fox was pretty great despite it not even being one of his great games. Guy just has it figured out and is on another level. Shesty absolutely unreal. Can anyone confirm if I saw this right, a toe save in the first that was off a solid re-direct? Either way, his performance was absolutely unreal, especially on that bonkers 5 minute major call.

They were absolutely buzzin out of the gate. This team is becoming more and more resilient and that was evident last night. They looked like they were playing a practice squad and the Flyers seemed to have plenty of opps to shift momentum their way early on. This is a top 5 team in the league right now I'd say.

So many takeaways beyond that but man was great to be back, especially to catch this squad at this point.
 
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Just 4-1? Gallant's team might be better, but my teams were still better at beating up on the Flyers.
 
Trouba 2.0 is great at pinching. Knows exactly when to pinch so it's clean. Swipes the puck to a forward quickly and doesn't get caught with his pants down nearly as often as the last 2 years.
 
I mean I'm (sorta) sorry that Flyer got his head split open a little but that was some check by Hunt, I hope I hope the major doesn't make him gun shy.
 
I cringe every time Nemeth attempts to pinch.

i don’t know what Lundkvist does well.

they were average at best, Game score doesn’t magically change everything

I still dont know what Lundkvist is good at either. Hes just sort of there, doesnt stand out positively much. He was endlessly hyped by a couple of our vocal fans on social media as the second coming. They put unrealistic expectstions on these kids its embarrassing.

Did the same thing with Kravtsov and pushed some narrative about him scoring a certain % of his teams goals? It was a bs stat that these dudes ran with.

The social media heroes dont realize they are part of the problem
 
I still dont know what Lundkvist is good at either. Hes just sort of there, doesnt stand out positively much. He was endlessly hyped by a couple of our vocal fans on social media as the second coming. They put unrealistic expectstions on these kids its embarrassing.

Did the same thing with Kravtsov and pushed some narrative about him scoring a certain % of his teams goals? It was a bs stat that these dudes ran with.

The social media heroes dont realize they are part of the problem
I at least saw things in Kravtsov's game. even if it didn't amount to much

Lundkvist just looks overmatched.
 
I still dont know what Lundkvist is good at either. Hes just sort of there, doesnt stand out positively much. He was endlessly hyped by a couple of our vocal fans on social media as the second coming. They put unrealistic expectstions on these kids its embarrassing.

Did the same thing with Kravtsov and pushed some narrative about him scoring a certain % of his teams goals? It was a bs stat that these dudes ran with.

The social media heroes dont realize they are part of the problem

@Amazing Kreiderman called out.
 
That said I don't like the goal contribution % because it assumes every line scores equally or he's at least on an average line. If a team is mediocre at scoring but he's on a good top line that stat becomes meaningless.
 

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