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Post-Game Talk: Leafs win Game 4!

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So, if the teams that are ahead in their series go on to win, we'd be looking at a round 2 of:

Vegas (82) vs. Colorado (82)
Carolina (80) vs. Tampa Bay (75)
Boston (73) vs. Islanders (71)
Toronto (77) vs. Winnipeg (63)

So, if Toronto then won against Winnipeg, you would have Vegas/Colorado vs. Boston/Islanders in one semi-final and Carolina/Tampa Bay vs. Toronto in the other. Toronto would have home ice advantage against Tampa Bay.

Now, of course, this is the NHL and anything can happen, so take this with a grain of salt.
 
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ottomaddox said:
I'm not as sensitive as others. I know he made a mistake. This will no doubt snowball. Cancel Culture is such a force these days. Also why must Don Cherry fall, but Maclean doesn't?
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What mistake? saying shirts off? If you cant say that this world is f***ed.
 
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Mess said:
Montreal and Winnipeg should be nice warm-ups and confidence builders for the team, top get some winning under their belt for when the real serious round begins with #3.

The games are a little melodramatic probably because when you play the same teams over and over and over it gets a little boring as we have already played Montreal 14 times in 2021 and as the heavy favourites its playing out as expected.

While Montreal really shouldn't even be in the playoffs at a near .500 record in a normal year, it still feels good to be getting payback and beating Montreal, as in 1978 and 1979 when they were in the middle of their 4 straight Stanley Cup dynasty run. Also Montreal has won 10 X Stanley Cups since Leafs won their last one in 1967 so sending them packing still feels good.

I can see our Leafs sitting at 8xW and 2xL after first 2 rounds at least that was my expectation based on QofC going into the playoffs.
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I really hope the team itself isn't in such a complacent mindset. I imagine the Oilers were a week ago. Taking an opponent lightly and looking all the way to the next round before game one even begins is how upsets happen.

Even with Montreal, while yes I suspect the Leafs will win it in 5 or 6 now that they have commanding lead, as Spezza said last night "That fourth win is the hardest one to get". Even this series isn't over; we have seen 3-1 leads evaporate into 7 game series before.
 
al secord said:
I really hope this series isn't developing any bad habits. It's not really preparing us for the Jets. Montreal doesn't generate anything. We're not learning much here. I'm glad we have the depth and leadership that will help in this regard going forward.

Edit. Forgot to mention that the Habs really, really suck.

Edit 2. In both national languages. They suck.
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The Jets got the sweep which is always impressive and credit where it's due but they trailed for the vast majority of the series and had long stretches where they couldn't establish any kind of meaningful pressure. Against the Oilers D. They definitely have more forwards with something from nothing potential then the Habs but they haven't become a juggernaut overnight. I still like us.
 
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As for MacLean, it is possible that he was making a joke about partying and thus testing positive for drugs and/or alcohol as opposed to it being homophobic AIDS joke as some are interpreting it. It was still a bizarre joke and I think Jennifer's reaction was as much "Huh? What are you talking about?" as it was shock over him saying something really controversial. But who knows how it will play out?

As for him being in trouble, I'm not so sure. Yes, there are comments on Twitter. There is one blog piece about it. And apparently, one Toronto talk radio station discussed it. But as far as I can tell, no major media source has said a peep about it.
 
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Cor said:
Seems easy to me.

Foligno/Hyman - Matthews - Marner
Gally - Kerfoot - Nylander
Foligno/Hyman - Engvall - Mikheyev
Simmonds/Thornton - Thornton/Nash/Brooks - Spezza

Keep that 2nd line together, I’d love Hyman on the third line, Foligno where he looked good in the regular season. Fourth line has Spezza for sure, and then some combo of Simmonds, Thornton, Nash and Brooks.

Simmonds brings some pest and physicality, so IMO, it should be Thornton, Nash or Brooks for the last spot
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The 5 guys for the 3 spots are the decisions I was referring to. It's easy for me too if I don't actually make the decisions.;)
 
Caroline Says ll said:
I agree with you. But if it was Allen we were facing and he had the exact same performance with the exact same saves - their would be a lot less overhyping of him. But because it is Price the narrative shifts back to him being possibly the best in the world. "Carey Price doing things only Price can do" "the man, the myth, the mystery". They are shaping a picture that his play has been special - where I think there is a huge divide between his great play and a special performance.

I think he is the only goalie in the world that would get this built off the performance he has had, and that is what pisses me off about the coverage.
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In the end, it only hurts the Habs to have continually overhyped. So feel good about it!
 
Pi said:
Spezza's shot in Game 3? It was a laser but there was no screen, he probably should have had that.
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Even that one hard to fault him - the pass went a long way from behind the net all the way across, Spezza came in on it full speed and on an angle, and he sniped the corner up off the ice a bit.
 
Mess said:
Montreal and Winnipeg should be nice warm-ups and confidence builders for the team, to get some winning under their belt for when the real serious round begins with #3.

The games are a little melodramatic probably because when you play the same teams over and over and over it gets a little boring as we have already played Montreal 14 times in 2021 and as the heavy favourites its playing out as expected.

While Montreal really shouldn't even be in the playoffs at a near .500 record in a normal year, it still feels good to be getting payback and beating Montreal, as in 1978 and 1979 when they were in the middle of their 4 straight Stanley Cup dynasty run. Also Montreal has won 10 X Stanley Cups since Leafs won their last one in 1967 so sending them packing still feels good.

I can see our Leafs sitting at 8xW and 2xL after first 2 rounds at least that was my expectation based on QofC going into the playoffs.
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Mess thought both Montreal and Winnipeg were better than the leafs - and especially built better for the PLAYOFFS - just a few short months ago.
 
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Cotton said:
I fear people are taking the Jets too lightly, playoff hockey is a different animal.
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ottomaddox said:
Exactly. First you can't look past Montreal.

Nothing is easy in the playoffs.
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NoName said:
I really hope the team itself isn't in such a complacent mindset. I imagine the Oilers were a week ago. Taking an opponent lightly and looking all the way to the next round before game one even begins is how upsets happen.

Even with Montreal, while yes I suspect the Leafs will win it in 5 or 6 now that they have commanding lead, as Spezza said last night "That fourth win is the hardest one to get". Even this series isn't over; we have seen 3-1 leads evaporate into 7 game series before.
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We're just fans thinking out loud, of course the players have to focus on what's right in front of them.

It's possible we don't get past WPG. It's possible we don't even get past MTL. Having said that, I'm just saying what I think. I predicted we'd take MTL in 4-5 games and I think WPG is a bit tougher, but not that much so them going home after 5 is the most likely result there as well.

Leaf players, if you're reading this then ignore me and focus on tomorrow night. Thanks! Oh and great work so far but don't think it's going to be this easy going forward, so far it's been mostly downhill, it will get MUCH harder at some point so don't be surprised when that happens and embrace the competition!
 
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rojac said:
So, if the teams that are ahead in their series go on to win, we'd be looking at a round 2 of:

Vegas (82) vs. Colorado (82)
Carolina (80) vs. Tampa Bay (75)
Boston (73) vs. Islanders (71)
Toronto (77) vs. Winnipeg (63)

So, if Toronto then won against Winnipeg, you would have Vegas/Colorado vs. Boston/Islanders in one semi-final and Carolina/Tampa Bay vs. Toronto in the other. Toronto would have home ice advantage against Tampa Bay.

Now, of course, this is the NHL and anything can happen, so take this with a grain of salt.
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Getting 77 points was huge. Considering you may be playing teams with fans and Leafs don't get that luxury most likely.

You want to be the home team to at least get away from that as much as you can I'd think.

Maybe some guys would love it regardless just to hear the fans again... plus you can play the villain. Some hockey players relish that chance.
 
I know how a 3-1 series can become 3-3, as I have seen the Leafs themselves erase a 3-1 series deficit twice. So I'll be clenching till they secure that 4th win.
 
rojac said:
As for MacLean, it is possible that he was making a joke about partying and thus testing positive for drugs and/or alcohol as opposed to it being homophobic AIDS joke as some are interpreting it. It was still a bizarre joke and I think Jennifer's reaction was as much "Huh? What are you talking about?" as it was shock over him saying something really controversial. But who knows how it will play out?

As for him being in trouble, I'm not so sure. Yes, there are comments on Twitter. There is one blog piece about it. And apparently, one Toronto talk radio station discussed it. But as far as I can tell, no major media source has said a peep about it.
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The way I interpret it, it was just a poor attempt at a self-deprecating joke about the time he was caught with his "tarp" off, in a bar, where he would've tested positive for alcohol and/or drugs.

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Contractually committed.

Must be hard on the guy to fail as much as the Oilers do. Proves how hard it is to build a winning team.
 
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