GDT: 2024-25 season game 58 LA Kings vs St. Louis Blues @5:00pm 3/1/25

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Love it, everyont bitches 11/7......he goes 12/6 everyone bitches he goes 12/6...

Who is Clarke out playing right now? Doughty, Spence, Gavrikov? Hell Moveare is playing better right now.....who are you sitting to force feed Clarke?

You guys think the players don't know who is playing well who isnt? Of course they do, so imagine what you do to morale by sitting a player who is playing better, than the one you are forcing in?
 
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I didn't watch a second of the game, but sadly it seems like more of the same for Kopitar. At what point is the plug pulled on the Kopitar/Turcotte experiment for the first 40 minutes of games? I'm happy they freed Kempe from these guys and put him with Byfield and Fiala (as a lot of us wanted for awhile), but maybe now it's time to blender the other 9 guys.

Since that big first period vs. Vancouver back on 1/16

16 Games

Turcotte
G - 0
A - 1
+/- -7

Kopitar
G - 1
A - 5 (1 at ES)
+/- -14

I have been a pretty big Hiller supporter for the most part, but it's time to realize that some guys are just oil and water when they play together.

I just hate to see my favorite Kings player of all-time end up looking like this at the tail end of his career. If something drastic doesn't happen to turn this ship around, I am hoping that Kopitar calls it a career after this season. I don't want to see him embarrass himself next season, and that is where we could be headed.
 
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Hard to see much going different this year if they get into the playoffs. They have what, one consistently "elite" player in his prime in Kempe, and then a bunch of guys who either haven't taken that next step, or older players that should be in smaller supporting roles. Lots of guys who can wow you for a game here and there but that doesn't get you far in the playoffs when they disappear for 5-10 games at a time.

The team is constructed like a lot of teams in the "mini-dead puck era" (2011-2015ish) where they have a bunch of fast guys with hands and hockey IQs that can't keep up with their feet. Say like a Carolina team from that period, but there were a lot of examples around the league. The Kings were a powerhouse then, so their roster construction was very different, maybe we didn't notice it as much, but this roster and game-planning screams 2014 bubble team to me.

This would all perhaps be salvageable with elite goaltending or team defense but as we've seen the last 3-4 seasons... they don't have that either, and in fact management has shown that goaltending is a "dump stat" (to use an RPG term).

I think they can beat Vegas if they luck out into that matchup, but it seems like the game-plan going into an Oilers series would be crossing their fingers and hoping that Skinner is worse than Kuemper (if he's even healthy) in 4 of 7 games.
 
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I didn't watch a second of the game, but sadly it seems like more of the same for Kopitar. At what point is the plug pulled on the Kopitar/Turcotte experiment for the first 40 minutes of games? I'm happy they freed Kempe from these guys and put him with Byfield and Fiala (as a lot of us wanted for awhile), but maybe now it's time to blender the other 9 guys.

Since that big first period vs. Vancouver back on 1/16

16 Games

Turcotte
G - 0
A - 1
+/- -7

Kopitar
G - 1
A - 5 (1 at ES)
+/- -14

I have been a pretty big Hiller supporter for the most part, but it's time to realize that some guys are just oil and water when they play together.

I just hate to see my favorite Kings player of all-time end up looking like this at the tail end of his career. If something drastic doesn't happen to turn this ship around, I am hoping that Kopitar calls it a career after this season. I don't want to see him embarrass himself next season, and that is where we could be headed.

Not sure who you can put with Kopitar....Moore, Danault, Foegle seemed to have gelled, Byfield, Fiala, Kempe are complienting each other nicely,

So that leaves, Lewis, Turcotte, Laferriere, Jeannot, Thomas.......or name an AHL callup etc....
 
I'm happy they freed Kempe from these guys and put him with Byfield and Fiala (as a lot of us wanted for awhile),
Too bad he didnt really do it. Youd think they start that line and set the tone for the game. Instead he treated them as a 4th line and they had 1 shift in the first 10 minutes of the game. The Lewis line got more shifts.
I think it was by the end of the second or for the third when he went back to Kopitar and Kempe together.
The broadcast before the game has Carlyn going over the starting lineup with Kopitar as the 1c every night no matter who his wingers are and that line was listed as the third line.
They arent serious about winning. Its about Kopitar and Doughty jerseys hanging next to Blakes at the practice center in El Segundo.
 
Not sure who you can put with Kopitar....Moore, Danault, Foegle seemed to have gelled, Byfield, Fiala, Kempe are complienting each other nicely,

So that leaves, Lewis, Turcotte, Laferriere, Jeannot, Thomas.......or name an AHL callup etc....

Kopitar is no longer a finisher, I think he can still somewhat effectively be a distributor (like late-stage Getzlaf and Thornton), but he is not even getting chances anymore, he has 9 total shots in 9 games since the start of last month, with three consecutive games where he didn't register a single shot. If he is still going to be expected to produce offense as a passer (and he has to be for the Kings to have a prayer), he needs to have two guys that are a threat to score. Laf makes sense, nobody is going to mistake him for Ovechkin but he has some finish, but Turcotte does not, his finishing ability has been non-existent across three levels of hockey since being drafted, him playing with Kopitar a lot this season is a poor look for management and/or the coaching staff. It's horrible for a player who could be effective as a bottom six character guy if actually used in that role, and it's horrible for Kopitar because there is zero offensive chemistry between the two. The results have been a complete disaster, but they somehow keep going back to it.

Try Moore with Kopitar and Laf as the 2nd line, and see what Foegele/Danault/Turcotte can do as the third line, I think it might work out.

Too bad he didnt really do it. Youd think they start that line and set the tone for the game. Instead he treated them as a 4th line and they had 1 shift in the first 10 minutes of the game. The Lewis line got more shifts.
I think it was by the end of the second or for the third when he went back to Kopitar and Kempe together.
The broadcast before the game has Carlyn going over the starting lineup with Kopitar as the 1c every night no matter who his wingers are and that line was listed as the third line.
They arent serious about winning. Its about Kopitar and Doughty jerseys hanging next to Blakes at the practice center in El Segundo.
Yeah, I also thought it was funny to see the lines listed by the team and they have Turcotte/Kopitar/Laf as the 1st line and Foegele/Danault/Moore as the 2nd line, like it's written in stone that whatever line Kopitar is on is the 1st line and whatever line Danault on is the 2nd. Kempe is without question the best forward (and player) on the team, and whatever line he is on should be recognized as the first line, especially true when the second best offensive player on the team is also on that line, and honestly at this point probably the third best too.

I think we all appreciate what 11 and 8 did for this franchise, they did what nobody thought we'd ever see as Kings fans and reached the top of the mountain, but having every decision revolve around these guys at the expense of the next generation of players is going to result in this team having a lost decade.
 

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