Player Discussion Joe Morrow II

[Bruinswillwin77]

The Bruins lose Colin Miller for nothing and now this. They'll both end up elsewhere and do well.

But, hey, at least Boston still has Kevan Miller and Adam McQuaid in the top six!

Those 2 are in the clique because they drop gloves I guess.

 

[neelynugs]

based on the bevy of 'left-shot defenseman' talk coming from the front office in the past few months, this isn't a surprise at all. morrow clearly wasn't in their plans, and was never going to be more than a 7-8 in boston. assume he thinks he can play a regular shift in the NHL and asked the bruins to move him. and assume no team was interested in giving up a pick, so he's not qualified. he may have to take a 2 way deal or maybe even a PTO.

 

[Iceage]

The Bruins lose Colin Miller for nothing and now this. They'll both end up elsewhere and do well.

But, hey, at least Boston still has Kevan Miller and Adam McQuaid in the top six!

So you put Miller and Morrow in your top 6 with 2nd yr Carlo and rookie MacAvoy? What happens if Krug or Chara gets injured long term? Also, where’s your toughness going to come from?

 

[BruinDust]

The Bruins lose Colin Miller for nothing and now this. They'll both end up elsewhere and do well.

But, hey, at least Boston still has Kevan Miller and Adam McQuaid in the top six!

Kevan Miller and Adam McQuaid would play in the top 6 for almost every team in the league. Both were quality hockey players last season.

 

[remer]

That makes sense.

Kind of reminds me of Connolly situation. My initial reaction was that he wasn't a Sweeney acquisition, so they cut him loose. Meanwhile Tim ****ing Schaller is getting qualified. I wasn't a fan of letting Connolly go either.

He's a young NHL player that hasn't hit expectations, but he's still an NHL player IMO.

Sad day for the Bruins. Losing Colin Miller and now Joe Morrow. It really does seem like Sweeney is trying to rid himself of past Chairelli deals.
Two other past Bruin players seem to have turned it around since leaving Boston:

Matt Benning 62 games 3 goals 12 assets for 15 points

Brett Connolly 66 games 15 goals 8 assets for 23 points

I would suspect Joe Morrow will as well.

Tyler Seguin trade to the Stars for Loui Eriksson, Joe Morrow, Reilly Smith, and Matt Fraser, will go down in history as one of the worst trades in NHL history.

Joe Thornton trade to San Jose sending forwards Marco Sturm, Wayne Primeau and defenseman Brad Stuart to the Bruins is near the top as well.

No wonder Sweeney is scared to make a deal.

 

[reillysmith38]

Sad day for the Bruins. Losing Colin Miller and now Joe Morrow. It really does seem like Sweeney is trying to rid himself of past Chairelli deals.
Two other past Bruin players seem to have turned it around since leaving Boston:

Matt Benning 62 games 3 goals 12 assets for 15 points

Brett Connolly 66 games 15 goals 8 assets for 23 points

I would suspect Joe Morrow will as well.

Tyler Seguin trade to the Stars for Loui Eriksson, Joe Morrow, Reilly Smith, and Matt Fraser, will go down in history as one of the worst trades in NHL history.

Joe Thornton trade to San Jose sending forwards Marco Sturm, Wayne Primeau and defenseman Brad Stuart to the Bruins is near the top as well.

No wonder Sweeney is scared to make a deal.

Benning never signed with Boston.

 

[ODAAT]

Sad day for the Bruins. Losing Colin Miller and now Joe Morrow. It really does seem like Sweeney is trying to rid himself of past Chairelli deals.
Two other past Bruin players seem to have turned it around since leaving Boston:

Matt Benning 62 games 3 goals 12 assets for 15 points

Brett Connolly 66 games 15 goals 8 assets for 23 points

I would suspect Joe Morrow will as well.

Tyler Seguin trade to the Stars for Loui Eriksson, Joe Morrow, Reilly Smith, and Matt Fraser, will go down in history as one of the worst trades in NHL history.

Joe Thornton trade to San Jose sending forwards Marco Sturm, Wayne Primeau and defenseman Brad Stuart to the Bruins is near the top as well.

No wonder Sweeney is scared to make a deal.

Benning was never really a Bruin and are we really using Brett Connolly as a Sweeney mistake based on a 23 point season? Talk about the bar being low.

If I were to go back in this thread and look at those fans here who have been less than impressed with Morrow over his time here who are now up in arms about him not being qualified, I`d bet I find more than just a few.

 

[Scruffy]

Sad day for the Bruins. Losing Colin Miller and now Joe Morrow. It really does seem like Sweeney is trying to rid himself of past Chairelli deals.
Two other past Bruin players seem to have turned it around since leaving Boston:

Matt Benning 62 games 3 goals 12 assets for 15 points

Brett Connolly 66 games 15 goals 8 assets for 23 points

I would suspect Joe Morrow will as well.

Tyler Seguin trade to the Stars for Loui Eriksson, Joe Morrow, Reilly Smith, and Matt Fraser, will go down in history as one of the worst trades in NHL history.

Joe Thornton trade to San Jose sending forwards Marco Sturm, Wayne Primeau and defenseman Brad Stuart to the Bruins is near the top as well.

No wonder Sweeney is scared to make a deal.

Well if he acquires a superstar for pieces instead of selling them for pennies on the dollar, he will be fine.

 

[Pia8988]

Benning was never really a Bruin and are we really using Brett Connolly as a Sweeney mistake based on a 23 point season? Talk about the bar being low.

If I were to go back in this thread and look at those fans here who have been less than impressed with Morrow over his time here who are now up in arms about him not being qualified, I`d bet I find more than just a few.

Sweeney should have drugged him and forced him to sign!

 

[ODAAT]

Sweeney should have drugged him and forced him to sign!

haha

We have a cupboard full of good looking D prospects, my bet would be one, if not more of them will wind up being much better NHL `ers.

From the dozen or so games I got to see the Oilers play, I liked Benning, but he isn`t paving the path to the HOF

 

[00BW]

Morrow was given several chances and couldn't beat out other players.

Benning decided to come out after his Junior college season and I read that GM DS tried to get him to return for a Senior season at Northeastern because they didn't have a spot for him. He exercised his college UFA rights and followed GM PC to Edmonton where he had an OK season as the 6/7 D.

The Bruins went with Carlo over Morrow and Benning last year and it seems like it was the right call. Now they have McAvoy coming in to take another RD spot pushing other D out.

Morrow is not beating any of the other 6 out of a spot so he would again be the 7th D.

 

[LSCII]

What the non tender for Morrow really says is that this team's scouting staff at the professional level cannot be trusted at all. What an abomination of a job they've done over the past 5 years. Have they come close to even winning one trade??

 

[Dr Quincy]

Was never too high on this guy. Not really a loss. But still not liking the idea of both Miller and McQuaid in the top 6, and the talk of bringing Liles back.

 

[ODAAT]

Was never too high on this guy. Not really a loss. But still not liking the idea of both Miller and McQuaid in the top 6, and the talk of bringing Liles back.

I think he and C Miller are kind of the same, both with solid skill set, both struggle to make quick, wise decisions with the puck.

Neither have yet to think quicker than the pace of the game, maybe that will happen but we shall see

 

[BruinDust]

Was never too high on this guy. Not really a loss. But still not liking the idea of both Miller and McQuaid in the top 6, and the talk of bringing Liles back.

There is talk of bringing Liles back?

 

[Gee Wally]

There is talk of bringing Liles back?

Theres been speculation in the local papers.


The Bruins would not have to cede assets to sign a defenseman through unrestricted free agency. But the UFA left-shot defenseman pool is not appealing either.

The best of the bunch is 28-year-old Karl Alzner, considered not worthy of re-upping by the Capitals. Brendan Smith is also scheduled to be unrestricted, although the Rangers could sign the ex-Red Wing to an extension. Other possibilities include Michael Del Zotto, Dmitry Kulikov, and ex-Bruin Matt Hunwick. Given the slim pickings, the Bruins might consider bringing back 36-year-old John-Michael Liles instead of investing in an outside commodity.


http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/b...-defenseman/qptT9VehKyPDHyvkWQKmLI/story.html

 

[BadBruins]

Benning was never really a Bruin and are we really using Brett Connolly as a Sweeney mistake based on a 23 point season? Talk about the bar being low.

If I were to go back in this thread and look at those fans here who have been less than impressed with Morrow over his time here who are now up in arms about him not being qualified, I`d bet I find more than just a few.

Connolly did have 15 goals in 66 games (14 Even Strength). Far more production than the the Bruins had in their bottom-6. I was a fan of both and wanted to retain both, fully aware that neither would reach draft expectations of being a top-6 forward or top-4 D. Role players who are young and talented enough to have a spark every now and them. I feel the same way about Spooner, although his new price tag may make me change my mind.

 

[BruinDust]

Theres been speculation in the local papers.

Not sure what to think of that. Suppose there could be worse things, but I'd be inclined to allow Liles to seek employment elsewhere.

 

[SPLBRUIN]

Was never too high on this guy. Not really a loss. But still not liking the idea of both Miller and McQuaid in the top 6, and the talk of bringing Liles back.

Please be wrong about the talk of bringing Liles back.

 

[WhalerTurnedBruin55]

So you put Miller and Morrow in your top 6 with 2nd yr Carlo and rookie MacAvoy? What happens if Krug or Chara gets injured long term? Also, where’s your toughness going to come from?

Morrow or C. Miller are much better Krug fill in than McQuaid or K. Miller, that's for sure.

Yes, you would slot one of McQuaid or K. Miller in for Chara though. If there was injury.

 

[bigd]

What the non tender for Morrow really says is that this team's scouting staff at the professional level cannot be trusted at all. What an abomination of a job they've done over the past 5 years. Have they come close to even winning one trade??

I believe this is the third team Morrow has been with. Are they all wrong?

 

[LSCII]

I believe this is the third team Morrow has been with. Are they all wrong?

That's a bit disingenuous, no?

He was a first round pick and top rated prospect in Penguins organization and was moved at the deadline for Brenden Morrow, when they were trying to make a cup run. He was then flipped to Boston as part of the Seguin deal, again because he was considered a highly regarded prospect in the Stars organization. Before suiting up for the Bruins, he had never played a game at the NHL level.

 

[TheBigBadB]

This is Sweeney that thinks all his picks are going to jump right to the NHL. It's almost a bad thing when he had too much success too early. Carlo and McAVoy jump right in so he now must think this is the norm. Don't need C Miller or Morrow because of this. Where is the depth now especially when Mcquaid gets hurt consistently? We expecting Zorbril to jump right in right away. O'Gara/Cross are not the answer they will play just as well as Miller/Morrow. So now they need to pick up at least one depth defenseman. My guess another journeyman stay at home defender.

Another mistake I see is not letting defensemen develop. Can't wait to we give up on another set of young defenseman if they don't automatically become top 4 defenseman with in a year or two.

I want to trust Sweeney but I feel like it's giving an inexperienced driver a set of keys. You want to trust but there is apprehension behind it.

 

[whatsbruin]

Morrow was given several chances and couldn't beat out other players.

Yes and no.
Under Clode, if Morrow/C. Miller made any kind of mistake, they would sit for 3 weeks. Even if he didn't make a mistake he often would sit for weeks after a good game.

I'm not saying it was a huge mistake to let him go, I'm just not sure he got a
fair chance.

 

[TheBigBadB]

Kevan Miller and Adam McQuaid would play in the top 6 for almost every team in the league. Both were quality hockey players last season.

On a "just made it" eighth place team that got dropped in the first round. I wouldn't exactly call what the Bruins have as a gold standard to a cup.