Is Artemi Panarin overrated?

[ViD]

Breadman???

He’s more like ”Matzah” amirite Folks??

#OffensivelyFlat
#Can’tRiseToChallenge

Is his game 7 OT goal last year still that painful?

 

[Peltz]

What's the difference between regular season hockey and playoff hockey? Why some players succeed others not? The game play style change?

You're playing the same team for multiple games and can tailor your defense to their best players. The game is also just much tighter defensively and more physical.

Players backcheck better too. It's just a more physical style of hockey to play.

 

[stevo61]

In Columbus he was a beast, Torts had him playing unreal. I dont know if its just him slacking off after his mega deal or what but NY never got to see the version of Panarin Columbus got

 

[Leonardo87]

If Panarin was like a 7 or 8 million cap hit wouldn’t be as much of an issue. Still an issue but not like this.

To compare the guy who gets some heat from Rangers fans makes 6.5 million and had 9 points (6 goals) in 7 games. Rangers don’t make it to Game 7 without Kreider’s efforts. Shesty as well.

 

[MetalheadPenguinsFan]

Is his game 7 OT goal last year still that painful?

But did he win a Cup last year in the end?? Remind me.

 

[Fataldogg]

Panarin has a NMC for the entirety of his contract and he specifically chose New York. You also need to find a team that wants him and can stomach his cap hit. So good luck moving him.

I agree. But 90+ point forwards will always be in demand. They would need to retain some $ on him though. You're right, that most teams cannot fit $11.6 million under their cap.

 

[Artemi Panarin]

No

 

[GG96]

He’s not overrated. Rangers did the wrong thing. Strome and Copp are better partners for Panarin than Trocheck and Tarasenko because the former did all the gritty stuff against the boards and Strome was great on the backcheck.

They went all-in on skill. Needed more “modern day grit.”

 

[Sasha Orlov]

Yes he should be traded to Montreal for Brendan Gallagher

 

[pld459666]

Not overrated, just not a playoff performer

 

[McSuper]

The problem with most of the takes is in the playoffs team can come up with a game plan to shut down a player. A 60+ goal scorer is going to get a rough ride. McDavid didn't look the best against LA. People also forget how good Florida was last year. Sure they got off to a bad start but they had a big turn over in the off season. Tkachuk is also a better playoff player than anyone Florida has lost. I never count them out even when Montreal fans were talking crap about a top 10 pick

 

[Dazed and Confused]

He’s not overrated. Rangers did the wrong thing. Strome and Copp are better partners for Panarin than Trocheck and Tarasenko because the former did all the gritty stuff against the boards and Strome was great on the backcheck.

They went all-in on skill. Needed more “modern day grit.”

That's my read on them too. They remind me a bit of the Oil during the Covid playoffs. In both years they could put up points, but tight checking games jammed them up.


Now this year and last McDrai have been able to put up video game numbers, but a massive part of that is due to going from Puljujarvi and Kassian as the team's go-to big PFs to Kane and Hyman, plus a healthy sprinkling of Kostin, and Bjugstad.

NY has Kreider, but no one else upfront that thrives in the trenches. Kane and Tarasenko were shiny toys, but that team needed a Toews, ROR or even Engvall/Bjugstad type far more. (Or as you said, Copp and Strome)

 

[BB88]

92 points this season and he’s overrated?

Many guys had weak play offs like Kaprizov, Kane, Timo Meier, Connor etc

It’ not a one year thing with Panarin.

His game isn’t build for playoffs, he’s a regular season player with low motor

 

[ViktorBaeArvidsson]

If u give me a 3rd option I’m always going with that.

 

[ViD]

It’ not a one year thing with Panarin.

His game isn’t build for playoffs, he’s a regular season player with low motor

That does not make him overrated in any way.

While he obviously had lopsided play offs this year, he’s got 46 points in 57 career play off games, not incredible, but certainly not horrible.

His career PPG is the highest in NYR history, he’s all good

 

[scoopscj]

He's not a play driver, he's a passenger. You give him a legit play making center, and he's not overrated. Give him a quality, decent 1C and he'll underperform.

He's got amazing passing skills, and one rocket of a shot, but that's not enough in today's NHL.

 

[SA16]

He's not a play driver, he's a passenger. You give him a legit play making center, and he's not overrated. Give him a quality, decent 1C and he'll underperform.

He's got amazing passing skills, and one rocket of a shot, but that's not enough in today's NHL.

Well considering the main centers in his career have been Artem Anisimov, rookie and second year Pierre Luc-Dubois, and Ryan Strome this statement is absolute nonsense.

 

[Cyclones Rock]

Worst contract in the NHL.

Bo Horvat says hello.

 

[Clam Jensen]

Just reunite him with Kane, they'll conjure up some of that nostalgic magic

 

[yeaher]

He’s not overrated. Rangers did the wrong thing. Strome and Copp are better partners for Panarin than Trocheck and Tarasenko because the former did all the gritty stuff against the boards and Strome was great on the backcheck.

They went all-in on skill. Needed more “modern day grit.”

Oh, that means he is definitely overrated. You think McDavid or McKinnon have trouble doing the gritty stuff. At the end of the day based on contract, he should be putting out similar performances to those guys. He isn't.

 

[Ovi895]

Well considering the main centers in his career have been Artem Anisimov, rookie and second year Pierre Luc-Dubois, and Ryan Strome this statement is absolute nonsense.

ironically Strome is a better fit for him than most 1st line centers would be. They had that Kunitz-Crosby dynamic where Strome knew exactly how to compliment him and anticipate his game. If the Rags management had any eye for chemistry they would have kept Strome and tried to elevate that line even more by getting the perfect RW (like say Buchnevich, Miller or Zucarello)

It's crazy how much the Rangers have wasted since 2017, both in mismanaging assets and the privilege of having star players crawl across broken glass to sign with you. This could have easily been their top 9/4 if they just didn't go out of their way to dump players in terrible rebuild trades

Kreider Zibanejad Buchnevich
Panarin Strome Zucarello
Miller Stutzle Kaakko


McDonagh Fox
Lindgren Pionk

 

[Jersey Fresh]

ironically Strome is a better fit for him than most 1st line centers would be. They had that Kunitz-Crosby dynamic where Strome knew exactly how to compliment him and anticipate his game. If the Rags management had any eye for chemistry they would have kept Strome and tried to elevate that line even more by getting the perfect RW (like say Buchnevich, Miller or Zucarello)

It's crazy how much the Rangers have wasted since 2017, both in mismanaging assets and the privilege of having star players crawl across broken glass to sign with you. This could have easily been their top 9/4 if they just didn't go out of their way to dump players in terrible rebuild trades

Kreider Zibanejad Buchnevich
Panarin Strome Zucarello
Miller Stutzle Kaakko


McDonagh Fox
Lindgren Pionk

Good luck fitting that team under the cap.

 

[KovalchukFistPump]

That does not make him overrated in any way.

While he obviously had lopsided play offs this year, he’s got 46 points in 57 career play off games, not incredible, but certainly not horrible.

His career PPG is the highest in NYR history, he’s all good

66 point pace for a 90+ point player (who is paid like it) is pretty bad.

 

[Ovi895]

Good luck fitting that team under the cap.

Its much easier when you don't have Barclay Goodrow and Ryan Reaves combine for almost 6 million on top of a reasonably signed Pionk in Trouba's 8 million dollar spot

 

[PuckMunchkin]

Nah.

He is just getting to the age bracket where decline starts to happen, sometimes rapidly.