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Obvious Fabertism said:
It was in the Jets own media coverage at the time, they showed the board up in the locker room post game, and it leaked to the media but Buff implied it was for shutting them down, while smiling and handing a wad of cash to Scheifele and Chiarot after the Parise hit.

Without diving deep into 8 year old Jets YouTube coverage the below is a snippet of where these teams were at during the series and I don’t think there’s been any resolution since then.

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There's a zero percent chance a team gets caught with an almost replica of the New Orleans Saints Bountygate situation and it doesn't immediately grab national sports headlines.

If it were true it would have been talked about everywhere. I'm not sure if you hallucinated it in a fever dream or something, but that simply did not happen.
 
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Romang67 said:
Yep. That resulted in half the front office being suspended. Head coach for a year, defensive coordinator indefinitely, GM for half a season. It also resulted in loss of draft picks, and the biggest possible fine against the organization (which apparently was a paltry half a million bucks).

It is the biggest scandal in recent NFL history. It would have been reported EVERYWHERE, not just in NHL media but in main stream media in general, if there had been evidence that the Jets did that.
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The evidence was just the board that they easily explained away, how do you prove it’s anything when the entire league does money on the board events? I assure you it was in the player viewed media and in the Wild locker room talk afterwards. Buff was briefly blacklisted from some MN pickup games following it. Players have knowledge or perceptions that don’t get captured in print, especially in the middle of a playoff series, whether or not the Jets actually did put bounties on players will never be proven without them admitting it. I’m not under delusions that they would ever be punished for it or anything, but it is the perception that these teams have a lot of unfinished business and all that has happened since then is a continuous chain of questionable hits and “physical play” between the two teams.

This isn’t a defense of Hartman, it is a statement of how both teams have fed this significantly. Referring to the Stanley flop as a “body check” is dumb, he brought both of his feet up and effectively jumped on a players back, to pretend that was a routine play vs some sort of weird wrestling move is just disingenuous.
 
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You leave the puck and skate the opposite way the play is going to crush a guy who is no where near the puck. Their play by play guys must have inadvertently left their brains at home that day.
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It looked inadvertent and then Hartman gets jumped, exact words from their commentator :laugh: No wonder some Minnesota fans think the Jets are dirty.
 
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It is no wonder Wild are the dirtiest team in the league when their fans are OK with this behavior and are openly saying so in this thread. Atleast when fans of other teams try to defend a retaliatory play they atleast try to equivocate or couch it in more acceptable language... atleast on the main boards. What a disgrace Hartman is to the league.

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Big Buff paid his teammates $2k for breaking Parise’s Sternum.
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Please present proof of this or delete your post.
 
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Tobias Kahun said:
That schiefele guy is a super clean player.

Only lost more games to suspension than Hartman
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I mean he kind of is a clean player though.

What he did on the play that got him suspended was incredibly dirty. Like ridiculously so, I'm not sure anyone would disagree with that.

That said it was one play where he clearly lost his mind, was frustrated, and did something idiotic. Otherwise he's quite clean and if anything some would moreso argue he's actually too soft more than anything.
 
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The evidence was just the board that they easily explained away, how do you prove it’s anything when the entire league does money on the board events? I assure you it was in the player viewed media and in the Wild locker room talk afterwards. Buff was briefly blacklisted from some MN pickup games following it. Players have knowledge or perceptions that don’t get captured in print, especially in the middle of a playoff series, whether or not the Jets actually did put bounties on players will never be proven without them admitting it. I’m not under delusions that they would ever be punished for it or anything, but it is the perception that these teams have a lot of unfinished business and all that has happened since then is a continuous chain of questionable hits and “physical play” between the two teams.

This isn’t a defense of Hartman, it is a statement of how both teams have fed this significantly. Referring to the Stanley flop as a “body check” is dumb, he brought both of his feet up and effectively jumped on a players back, to pretend that was a routine play vs some sort of weird wrestling move is just disingenuous.
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Yeah, sure thing and I'm guessing Pepe Silvia was heavily involved too.

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Obvious Fabertism said:
The evidence was just the board that they easily explained away, how do you prove it’s anything when the entire league does money on the board events? I assure you it was in the player viewed media and in the Wild locker room talk afterwards. Buff was briefly blacklisted from some MN pickup games following it. Players have knowledge or perceptions that don’t get captured in print, especially in the middle of a playoff series, whether or not the Jets actually did put bounties on players will never be proven without them admitting it. I’m not under delusions that they would ever be punished for it or anything, but it is the perception that these teams have a lot of unfinished business and all that has happened since then is a continuous chain of questionable hits and “physical play” between the two teams.

This isn’t a defense of Hartman, it is a statement of how both teams have fed this significantly. Referring to the Stanley flop as a “body check” is dumb, he brought both of his feet up and effectively jumped on a players back, to pretend that was a routine play vs some sort of weird wrestling move is just disingenuous.
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Youre talking about this ?? LMFAO its not Stanley's fault he's a gangly giraffe. The guy is 6 foot 8. Softprizov ducks/bends over after the initial hit and Stanley goes over top of him and his momentum squishes him. You cant actually believe he intentionally tried to injure him on this play?!?!. Give me a break man. It was a freak accident.
 
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BLNY said:
Hartman's actions and "reasoning" perfectly encapsulate a significant part of NHL culture. "Your guy did something to one of mine, so I'm gonna return the favour." Don't take the number of the guy that committed the offence. Go after someone completely uninvolved.
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If you want it to be a critique of “NHL culture” at least try to be accurate. You’re leaving out a huge part of the situation.

How about if I say

“Your guy did something (crosschecked) my
teams best player and hurt him, so I’m gonna return the favour”
 
jokesondee said:
Youre talking about this ?? LMFAO its not Stanley's fault he's a gangly giraffe that cant control his body. The guy is 6 foot 8. Softprizov ducks/bends over after the initial hit and Stanley goes over top of him and his momentum squishes him. You cant actually believe he intentionally tried to injure him on this play?!?!. Give me a break man. It was a freak accident.
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Can’t control his body and injures a player making not a hockey play, there is zero reason for his left skate to kick back and up, it’s his plant leg, he actively chose to go over the top on him. I never said intentional but nothing about that is a typical hockey hit.
 
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Obvious Fabertism said:
Can’t control his body and injures a player making not a hockey play, there is zero reason for his left skate to kick back and up, it’s his plant leg, he actively chose to go over the top on him. I never said intentional but nothing about that is a typical hockey hit.
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His momentum took him over top dude. Not sure of many people other than Superman who can stop themselves in midair.
 
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jokesondee said:
His momentum took him over top dude. Not sure of many people other than Superman(ok Neo too) who can stop themselves in midair.
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His momentum is perpendicular to the ice with his legs wide and planted like they should be for any check, how many other plays like this have you ever seen in hockey?

Edit: “show me sources or you better delete this post”
 
Hartman is an incredibly dirty piece of shit, Jets have nowhere close to a similar level of POS as that guy.

The hit on Ehlers last year was one of the dirtiest things I have seen. Ehlers never touched the puck and was backchecking with his head down and Hartman blasted him cause he's an angry manchild.

Does not surprise me one iota he purposely slashed (highsticked) Perfetti in the face.
 
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Tobias Kahun said:
That schiefele guy is a super clean player.

Only lost more games to suspension than Hartman
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Hartman's hit on Ehlers wasn't alot better and Hartman has a reputation as a dirty bastard. Scheifele got suspended for 4 playoff games on his very first bad thing he ever did and the playoffs and Scheifele are alot more meaningful to lose than Hartman and the regular season. Scheifele paid for his hit, Hartman not so much.
 
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Obvious Fabertism said:
The evidence was just the board that they easily explained away, how do you prove it’s anything when the entire league does money on the board events? I assure you it was in the player viewed media and in the Wild locker room talk afterwards. Buff was briefly blacklisted from some MN pickup games following it. Players have knowledge or perceptions that don’t get captured in print, especially in the middle of a playoff series, whether or not the Jets actually did put bounties on players will never be proven without them admitting it. I’m not under delusions that they would ever be punished for it or anything, but it is the perception that these teams have a lot of unfinished business and all that has happened since then is a continuous chain of questionable hits and “physical play” between the two teams.

This isn’t a defense of Hartman, it is a statement of how both teams have fed this significantly. Referring to the Stanley flop as a “body check” is dumb, he brought both of his feet up and effectively jumped on a players back, to pretend that was a routine play vs some sort of weird wrestling move is just disingenuous.
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You know what, I sent you a link to the HFWild thread from 2018. It's not too long. Just go there and show me when this video was discussed in there, and I'll do the rest of the work for you in finding the original video.
 
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Romang67 said:
You know what, I sent you a link to the HFWild thread from 2018. It's not too long. Just go there and show me when this video was discussed in there, and I'll do the rest of the work for you in finding the original video.
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It was from the Jets post game coverage, you won’t find it on the Wild board, maybe the playoff series thread but that’s not searchable. I’m not reading through 10k jets posts to find an inkling of it, go ahead and do it yourself. You can read the GDTs and probably get a feel for the fan emotion of the time, consider the players emotions during that and you might have an idea of why it seemed at least believable for the Wild players.
 
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