Devils discussion (news, notes and speculation) - offseason part II

[Captain3rdLine]

Wondering out loud, do we think the team might simply choose to go into the year with 4 RHD penciled into the top 6? Plenty of teams do that the other way around. Replacing Bahl with Pesce and figuring it out still seems like an upgrade on paper.

I'm not as convinced Hamilton is replaceable right now after watching our PP flounder and over game without him last year, but I could see them choosing to cash out now while he would still return actual assets than paying someone to take him in 3 years.

I think that’s more likely.

As for Hamilton being replaceable. I don’t disagree with you but Luke is gonna be on the top powerplay regardless. Biggest issue to a Hamilton trade right now would be his NMC. Can’t see him wanting to leave.

 

[JimEIV]

No chance Nemec is pushed out of the lineup lol

I wouldn't be surprised....

Pesce was a top pair PKer for Carolina and averaged over 20 minutes a night

That's the missing every day RHD PKer we needed.

 

[MasterofGrond]

Nemec moving to LD, heard it here first

 

[Captain3rdLine]

Signing Pesce who is a nice upgrade, for FREE AND getting assets for Marino seems brilliant on Fitz's part.

I won’t be for free. It’ll be for at least 2-3M more in cap space and more term for a 30 year old defensemen who doesn’t seem to be as good as he previously was.

 

[Shakir ONeal]

 

[Captain3rdLine]

Marino has a NTC coming up and RHD with term will have value. They can think Pesce even with an increase on the cap + whatever the Devils get back for Marino is more valuable going forward than just Marino. Nemec is going to be a mainstay regardless

Still don’t think they’ll trade him.

 

[MartyOwns]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1805269802375581937

Take this for whatever it may be worth.

 

[Captain3rdLine]

Nemec moving to LD, heard it here first

Wouldn’t love this.

 

[Killing Joke]

Lot of smoke around pesce eh?

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

I wouldn't be surprised....

Pesce was a top pair PKer for Carolina and averaged over 20 minutes a night

That's the missing every day RHD PKer we needed.

That’s nice. Simon Nemec is not going to the AHL.

 

[JimEIV]

Wouldn’t love this.

Would be a mistake...

And he would still have to kill penalties...just from the wrong side... I don't believe the staff would do that.

 

[New Jersey Devils]

This would all be more PALATable if we could somehow unload Ondrej's contract.

 

[megajake]

I won’t be for free. It’ll be for at least 2-3M more in cap space and more term for a 30 year old defensemen who doesn’t seem to be as good as he previously was.

What if you could get that kid from the Jets for a Marino base deal? Pay an extra couple mill for an upgrade on defense and come out with a perfect fit for our top 9(who is 20)

 

[Rhodes 81]

Even if it’s not Marino going out then that means Siegs. Yes Siegs had a nightmare year last year but I’d still be betting on the bounceback under Keefe than adding a guy to make double his money in his 30s and push someone to play their off side.

We can afford to keep both this next year, then trade someone after that. Seigs and Pesce are both coming off disappointing years by the standards they've set for themselves, but assuming one of them rebounds to be worthy of taking the heavy defensive minutes is probably a safe bet to make and then the other would probably end up being a 3rd pair/PK luxury similar to what Severson was his last year.

 

[britdevil]

A lot harder for a RD to play LD, than it is the opposite.

Weird. I'd be pretty shocked if they give up on Marino so soon. Unless they are trying to trade him for a LD of similar age and profile?

 

[MasterofGrond]

somebody got a LD version of Marino kicking around they’d be willing to swap?

Of course, nemec is still PKing then, which Jim SWEARS will be a disaster

 

[Captain3rdLine]

Would be a mistake...

And he would still have to kill penalties...just from the wrong side... I don't believe the staff would do that.

As we discussed the other day, as long as him Luke and Dougie are around, one of them will have to kill penalties.

 

[Shakir ONeal]

Hopefully him being from Tarrytown NY gives us a little discount

 

[Hisch13r]

I won’t be for free. It’ll be for at least 2-3M more in cap space and more term for a 30 year old defensemen who doesn’t seem to be as good as he previously was.

And isn’t even a guaranteed upgrade over Marino. I’d say Marino was at least as good before last year.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

This would all be more PALATable if we could somehow unload Ondrej's contract.

the two have literally nothing to do with one another.

 

[JimEIV]

That’s nice. Simon Nemec is not going to the AHL.

I don't think he'll be in the AHL.... I think if Pesce was added he'd be watching for the first 10 games or so depending on the Win Loss record.

 

[Captain3rdLine]

What if you could get that kid from the Jets for a Marino base deal? Pay an extra couple mill for an upgrade on defense and come out with a perfect fit for our top 9(who is 20)

That’s all entirely hypothetical one. Two it’s debatable whether he’ll even be an upgrade and the contract is worse.

 

[megajake]

I don't think he'll be in the AHL.... I think if Pesce was added he'd be watching for the first 10 games or so depending on the Win Loss record.

This isn't a serious take surely. The only thing more insane then sending Nemec down, is him being a healthy scratch.

 

[Hisch13r]

We can afford to keep both this next year, then trade someone after that. Seigs and Pesce are both coming off disappointing years by the standards they've set for themselves, but assuming one of them rebounds to be worthy of taking the heavy defensive minutes is probably a safe bet to make and then the other would probably end up being a 3rd pair/PK luxury similar to what Severson was his last year.

If you keep both this year you’re barely giving yourself any money to work on the forwards and I think we need 3 guys. We have 16 mil. Between Pesce and Mercer’s new deal you’re looking at 10-11 added.

 

[britdevil]

If they do bring in Pesce on a long UFA contract, where does that leave Casey???

I know there's no rush and it's pretty obvious that Dougie won't see out his contract on this team.

Still, can't see him wanting to slum it out in the AHL for more than a couple years.