Devils discussion (news, notes and speculation) - offseason part II

[Cheddabombs]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1805269802375581937

Take this for whatever it may be worth.

Oh my!!

 

[megajake]

Would be an amazing addition for us. Huge upgrade on Marino

 

[Nubmer6]

Not sure why we'd be after another RHD, and why Carolina would trade in-division but here we are.

 

[AfroThunder396]

Love Pesce, would love to have him but:

-This means Marino is gone (I'm okay with that, I think he'll bounce back but Pesce is much better)
-You need to have an exit strategy for Dougie's contract within the next 2 years
-Certainly makes the defense better but you still need to make a move on the left side

Still would be a great add but there are a few other moves we would need to make to accommodate this add.

 

[beekay414]

Not sure why we'd be after another RHD, and why Carolina would trade in-division but here we are.

Pesce is a UFA

 

[Better Call Sal]

Not sure why we'd be after another RHD, and why Carolina would trade in-division but here we are.

He's a UFA.

 

[NJDevs26]

Guess there's some fire behind that smoke after all

 

[NJDevs26]

Love Pesce, would love to have him but:

-This means Marino is gone (I'm okay with that, I think he'll bounce back but Pesce is much better)
-You need to have an exit strategy for Dougie's contract within the next 2 years
-Certainly makes the defense better but you still need to make a move on the left side

Still would be a great add but there are a few other moves we would need to make to accommodate this add.

Can Nemec play the left side at all (or Marino for that matter)? That's the only realistic way I see them adding Pesce and not offing Marino.

 

[Better Call Sal]

For what it's worth with that guy, he did call Marc Savard to Toronto's coaching staff a month ago, and had Keefe to us a couple of days before the announcement. It does seem as though he has some connections.

We'll see.

 

[megajake]

Love Pesce, would love to have him but:

-This means Marino is gone (I'm okay with that, I think he'll bounce back but Pesce is much better)
-You need to have an exit strategy for Dougie's contract within the next 2 years
-Certainly makes the defense better but you still need to make a move on the left side

Still would be a great add but there are a few other moves we would need to make to accommodate this add.

Signing Pesce who is a nice upgrade, for FREE AND getting assets for Marino seems brilliant on Fitz's part.

 

[NJDevs26]

Signing Pesce who is a nice upgrade, for FREE AND getting assets for Marino seems brilliant on Fitz's part.

Well let's wait and see how 'free' that contract actually is and what we actually get back for Marino first lol

 

[Cheddabombs]

For what it's worth with that guy, he did call Marc Savard to Toronto's coaching staff a month ago, and had Keefe to us a couple of days before the announcement. It does seem as though he has some connections.

We'll see.

 

[megajake]

Well let's wait and see how 'free' that contract actually is and what we actually get back for Marino first lol

True, the contract could be gross. But we do need our defense to get better and this is a step in the right direction. I think Marino should have decent value as a RHD with term/age.

 

[JimEIV]

I need to know...Is Dougie 100%?

 

[JimEIV]

True, the contract could be gross. But we do need our defense to get better and this is a step in the right direction. I think Marino should have decent value as a RHD with term/age.

The contract isn't gross if it replaces Dougie who is still not healthy.

 

[megajake]

I need to know...Is Dougie 100%?

He's almost going to be a year removed from injury by the regular season

 

[Captain3rdLine]

I need to know...Is Dougie 100%?

He was almost back at the end of the season so most likely.

 

[Cheddabombs]

I need to know...Is Dougie 100%?

It's a fair concern. I'd assume he is just because how long it's been since the injury but I don't think we have any confirmation. And even if he is 100% who knows how his play will be impacted afterwards.

Pesce is still a very good player and would be a good addition regardless, but that'd be a lot of money tied up in what may potentially be our 3 & 4 defensemen behind Luke and Nemec, assuming they keep progressing as expected.

 

[Zacha37]

What could we speculate a Marino trade to look like/who would be interested? Adding a player like Colton in a swap would make sense for us but since he’s supposed to be a cap casualty for the Avs, not sure how it would work

 

[tailfins]

If they’re replacing anyone on the right side, it should be Dougie. He’s older, more expensive, and plays a role where we have alternatives (pp qb).

We need more PK and more defensive D, not less. Getting rid of Marino makes no sense.

 

[R8Devs]

If they’re trading anyone, it should be Dougie. He’s older, more expensive, and plays a role where we have alternatives (pp qb).

We need more PK and more defensive D, not less. Getting rid of Marino makes no sense.

Pesce would fill Marino's role. What Hamilton can do cannot be replicated by Marino and he's more than just a PPQB he dramatically affects the game 5v5 as well. Nemec can take on more of a PK role next season as well.

Kind of concerned about the potential Pesce contract though but he's from around the area so maybe there'll be a discount

 

[Emperoreddy]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1805269802375581937

Take this for whatever it may be worth.

Who are these people though?

 

[Hisch13r]

Paying the older guy for term and 2-2.5+ mil over Marino certainly is a choice… If it’s a short deal then fine. If it’s long this is stupid.

 

[Cheddabombs]

If they’re replacing anyone on the right side, it should be Dougie. He’s older, more expensive, and plays a role where we have alternatives (pp qb).

We need more PK and more defensive D, not less. Getting rid of Marino makes no sense.

I'd honestly be okay with this route too. I love big Doug but with Luke and Nemec, and to a lesser extent Casey, up and coming it may be our best option. While he's coming off a big injury he also had a heck of a season the year prior and may still have some good value left around the league.

 

[Captain3rdLine]

So if this is true

Did Carolina let us talk to him? And if so may there be a trade before UFA for his rights? Otherwise I’m not quite sure why they would unless they just wanted to figure if he was an option to return sooner than later.

I also wouldn’t assume Marino’s gone.

Is this a smart move if he’s a Marino replacement?
Using up potentially 2M or more in cap space and more term on a player that’s 3 years older and entering his 30s. And I feel like Marino had a good chance of bouncing back.
Seems like a poor use of cap space given how much we have and the other areas that need to be addressed.

We’ll see what happens but I’m not convinced this is even true yet.

If they’re replacing anyone on the right side, it should be Dougie. He’s older, more expensive, and plays a role where we have alternatives (pp qb).

We need more PK and more defensive D, not less. Getting rid of Marino makes no sense.

Fully agree but Dougie has a full NMC still and who is gonna trade for him?