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C Ivan Barbashev (2014, 33rd, STL)

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Daz28 said:
I think so. Not sure if it still exists. I think Girgensens did it. It was beneficial for him. I think with the state of kid athletes, they should consider an exemption of some sorts. It would hurt the minor leagues, but I think it's time.
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The CHL-AHL agreement only applies to players drafted out of the CHL (or Canadian Junior A). Girgensons was drafted out of the USHL, not the CHL, so there was no loophole to take advantage of. All players drafted out of the USHL, NCAA, European leagues, etc can all play in the AHL at 18 and 19. One obvious caveat there being if they are contractually obligated to another party, as in a European league, in which case there is a whole mess of rules.
 
CanadienShark said:
I graduated at 17... heck, I'm not quite 21 and I'm in my 4th year of university. It's not a big deal for Canadians with a late birthday either. I understand the rule difference though. It's because of the CHL agreement.
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You are Canadian I assume. There are many countries out there where it is not at all usual to graduate at 17. The point was many guys at this age have obligations like military service or especially at that age try to get through as much university as they can before the real professional hockey player career kicks in.
 
I'm still not sold on his offense, but I think he's a pretty safe bet to be a solid 3C in a year or two. Strong compete, knowledgeable player, occasional offensive burst. He should be an NHLer.
 
Paxon said:
The CHL-AHL agreement only applies to players drafted out of the CHL (or Canadian Junior A). Girgensons was drafted out of the USHL, not the CHL, so there was no loophole to take advantage of. All players drafted out of the USHL, NCAA, European leagues, etc can all play in the AHL at 18 and 19. One obvious caveat there being if they are contractually obligated to another party, as in a European league, in which case there is a whole mess of rules.
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Are you sure about that? I've never heard Canadian Jr A as being a part of the NHL/CHL agreement before. Most kids going Jr A over CHL to stay NCAA eligible so I would think that they wouldn't be held to the so called Under 20 rule. Of course, most of those kids are likely to be playing Jrs/NCAA by at least age 20 anyway but my understanding was that they were at least eligible for the AHL as teenagers.
 
STL fan in IA said:
Are you sure about that? I've never heard Canadian Jr A as being a part of the NHL/CHL agreement before. Most kids going Jr A over CHL to stay NCAA eligible so I would think that they wouldn't be held to the so called Under 20 rule. Of course, most of those kids are likely to be playing Jrs/NCAA by at least age 20 anyway but my understanding was that they were at least eligible for the AHL as teenagers.
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It's what I've been told by a couple different people I trust to know these things. It's possible they were both wrong, but I don't believe so.
 
The Mentalist said:
I thought St Louis stole him in the 2nd rd in the 2014 draft. Had a goal last night. Now with 10 points in 10 games at age 19 in the AHL. It's a young man's game today.
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7 points in the last 17 since this post. That's what he gets for aging.
 
Bluesman91 said:
Started off hot, started to cool off, got injured, came back and hit a wall in his first year of pro hockey. Next year will say a lot about the player he will become.
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Very true, next season will be alot more telling, he was a leader of Russian u20 NT now it seems Tolchinsky is getting more hype than him. Perhaps it's just that the adjustment from the Q to the AHL is more difficult than from OHL to the AHL.
 
He's acclimating to the pro game nicely. Through 34 games in the AHL, he's now gone 13-15-28. In 65 games last year he went 10-18-28. Hopefully he continues to develop, because there is a gaping hole at C on the NHL roster which he'll be given every opportunity to claim, as early as next year.
 
Stealth JD said:
He's acclimating to the pro game nicely. Through 34 games in the AHL, he's now gone 13-15-28. In 65 games last year he went 10-18-28. Hopefully he continues to develop, because there is a gaping hole at C on the NHL roster which he'll be given every opportunity to claim, as early as next year.
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He's also riding an incredibly high shooting percentage. He's now got 15 goals and 31 points in 36 games. Those 15 goals have come on 54 shots. That's good for a shooting percentage of 27.78%. Unless he developed Laine's shot over the summer, that goal scoring rate has to come down.
 
johna2626 said:
He's also riding an incredibly high shooting percentage. He's now got 15 goals and 31 points in 36 games. Those 15 goals have come on 54 shots. That's good for a shooting percentage of 27.78%. Unless he developed Laine's shot over the summer, that goal scoring rate has to come down.
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What kind of shooting percentages do we see from high scorers in the AHL - notably ones who graduate to the NHL after a couple seasons?
 
johna2626 said:
He's also riding an incredibly high shooting percentage. He's now got 15 goals and 31 points in 36 games. Those 15 goals have come on 54 shots. That's good for a shooting percentage of 27.78%. Unless he developed Laine's shot over the summer, that goal scoring rate has to come down.
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As far as I remember, when Makarov came to the NHL, he had even better %. And not for a few games, but for a few seasons. So it's pretty possible and up to playing style
 
Another goal and assist today. 17 + 17 in 38 games this year, compared to 10 + 18 in 65 games last year. He's progressing nicely to hopefully become a 3rd line or top 6 C.
 
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