maskingagent
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All surface level bs. His real thoughts and ideas are behind closed doors.
If you really want the Trotz, I recommend Taco BellYou forgot to include Lafferty, unless it was on purpose. I wouldn't mind keeping him for another year.
Man, I wish we had Trotz!!! Too bad he wasn't available.
Yes da way it should be .. good news is he believes in D and G to win Cups with great checking .. i think you will see our D rebuilt and look much stronger in 2023 season .. still expect to see one of Mitch or Willy gone minimum to rebuild da D .. it really is da only way it can be done due to cAPAll surface level bs. His real thoughts and ideas are behind closed doors.
Exactly true and it's why Marner fades in the PO. He doesn't do the wall at all. Nylander sucks as well at that but he has the redeeming quality of high zone entry success rate. The guy gets in there every time and can out accelerate most the league in 2 strides. Just watch him dust people while entering the zone, it's awesome.
yup thats a big issue IMO
- Willy doesn't struggle as much when it comes to holding onto the puck in the o-zone, and generates offense; but his inability to backcheck and check hard can sometimes bite the team on the ass
-Marner can back check, and plays sound 2-way game; but his inability to work the boards, no seperatoin speed can hamper is offensive playing/production on 5v5 hockey
Ideally we keep both and dump tavares; but of course....
Yes da way it should be .. good news is he believes in D and G to win Cups with great checking .. i think you will see our D rebuilt and look much stronger in 2023 season .. still expect to see one of Mitch or Willy gone minimum to rebuild da D .. it really is da only way it can be done due to cAP
It also helps Nylander that all the defensive focus of other teams is on rightfully shutting down the Matthews-Marner line. At least Marner backchecks and can play a 2-way game, Nylander not so much and coupled with the reports he wasnt allowed to go to the world tournaments make me think he would be the odd man out but it could very well be either of them. We can't run it back fully again can we?...yup thats a big issue IMO
- Willy doesn't struggle as much when it comes to holding onto the puck in the o-zone, and generates offense; but his inability to backcheck and check hard can sometimes bite the team on the ass
-Marner can back check, and plays sound 2-way game; but his inability to work the boards, no seperatoin speed can hamper is offensive playing/production on 5v5 hockey
Ideally we keep both and dump tavares; but of course....
The only thing Marner needs to learn is when the going gets tough, simplify.
Florida series it felt like he got in his mind he needed to do something amazing because of the struggling but it would just lead to poor puck management / turn overs.
Agreed in fact it is COMPLETELY due to JT's 11M AAV .. 2 more years omg .. like Muzzy deal we got 2 great years of JT and then it went south ,. at least Muzzy went on LTIR .. maybe JT can too .. we need to catch a AAV breakIts mostly due to Tavares' full NMC/NTC; 2 more freakin' years before he is off the books
Marner was making "cute" plays that screwed us. This isn't the first time he has done this btw... Just look at Game 2 his "cutezy" play followed by "Matthews' cutezy play" and boom the puck was back of our net.
I desperately hope you’re right. Just one trade of one of ‘em and in all aboard again. Please, I love the organization but I cannot stand the core, any of them, I don’t give half a shit if they each score 200 pts a season…. There is only one thing that truly matters.I think it’s smart business to call the core and say what Shanny did. And leak it too.
Your not doing your job properly by declaring to the Toronto media, “yes, we absolutely will be breaking up the core 4”
I think it shows desperation and you won’t get the best trade like that.
Why commit to something that may just not be there?
For example, you want to buy a house by the end of summer and declared this to you family and friends, but the only house in your search area all summer is a lemon and needs a lot of work, do you just go ahead and buy the house because it’s nearing the end of summer?
Sometimes patience works too. Or at the very least keeping your cards close to your chest…
Personally I think trading Matthews, Marner, or Nylander when Tavares is off the books in 24 months is stupid.
However, if you can get a hockey trade out of moving one of them, and it makes sense short term, medium term and long term, fine.
Because hes picking his spots..yep feel the same. I have never seen a player pull up consistently like he does. Thats why when that clip of him throwing 3 checks on a single shift during the worlds was bizarre to see....like wtf... you have that in you?
Marner's problem is he gets complex when his linemates start struggling. It hasn't escaped my attention that in the last few playoffs, Marner's errors have occurred in situations where his center (Tavares or Matthews) was struggling with offensive production.The only thing Marner needs to learn is when the going gets tough, simplify.
Florida series it felt like he got in his mind he needed to do something amazing because of the struggling but it would just lead to poor puck management / turn overs.
For anyone that missed the presser earlier ^TRELIVING / SHANAHAN PRESSER:
*Shanahan starts with his admiration for Treliving. Highlights knowing him well without working directly with him. Many colleagues speak highly of Brad. Excited for him to come to Toronto. Mentions experience in Canadian market is a bonus.
*Brad thanks Brendan & ownership for the opportunity. Opens by praising the city and fans of Calgary. Says its a special place with special people, and will have warm place in his / his family's heart. Praises Calgary ownership, says team is in great hands under Conroy. Wishes them all good luck.
*On Toronto - says until you are here, hard to understand the magnitude of how special it is to be apart of the Leafs. Says he's excited, humbled, but also knows there's a great responsibility in this role. Says he has responsibility to players and fans.
*Says the real draw to taking a special job, is the team. Calls them a great team, with high end talent. Knows there's been heartache and frustration in a hard league, but wants to keep putting team in position to keep knocking on the door until we break through.
*On Matthews negotiation - has communicated with a few players, including Matthews via text. Says he has good relationship with Matthew's agent. Says he doesn't get into public discourse with negotiations, but calls Matthews a world class player who is a priority. Says he wants to meet Auston, but also wants Auston to meet and get to know him as well. Says he's excited to meet and work with him.
*On Keefe - has spoken to Sheldon. Doesn't have a relationship with Sheldon, but told him it's a unique situation. Says his outside lens of Sheldon is this team has been 100+ point team behind a really good coach.
*On core 4 & changing the culture - says we have really good players. Having them excites him. Says they will review everything, but he's not about coming in and making a statement move. Being different doesn't necessarily make you better. Says his job is to protect them - says its not about just the core 4, but the entire team. It's about the Leafs, and their success. Says he's lucky to have them.
*Shanahan, on how much responsibility he bears - says he's felt pressure from day 1 until today. Sometimes along the way, need to make changes. Says he always feels the pressure, which was one of the reasons he took on Leafs job. Always asks what they can do to be better.
*Treliving, on draft restrictions - Shanahan points out that the Flames have placed restrictions on what Brad can and cannot do at the draft, but won't go into details.
*On the Tkachuk trade - calls situation unique & circumstances. Says Matthew came to them & informed them that he wanted to move, which pushed them into the market. Says they worked hard to make an organizational decision that fit Calgary's competitive window. Says he didn't want to move him, but circumstances arise and you have to deal with them as best you can. Says time will dictate how all things play out.
*Shanahan, on GM autonomy - believes in process, but ultimately decision lies with GM. Says Brad is looking forward to meeting staff within organization, and says relationship he and Brad will have as good relationship as he and Kyle.
*Treliving, on adding staff / AGM - one of the draws to Toronto was all the quality staff off the ice. Praises Brendhan Pridham, calls him the best at what he does in the league. Says Pridham helped extensively as a league employee while Treliving was in Arizona. Also Praises Dubas, and calls him a close friend. Says Dubas has left him quality pieces both on and off the ice. Says people before him, including Dubas, Lou, Nonis, and Burke, all have their fingerprints and have contributed to high talent.
*On his biggest priorities - hard to say. Lots of priorities. Says contractual issues will be dealt with. Says Sheldon situation is a priority too. Mentions draft coming up. Says he has to speak to manager's community too - mentions he's a bit behind since leaving Calgary. Says #1 priority is to get out and meet Auston. Says there's a lot to do.
*On relationship with Gio & Brodie - says its good to see Gio still playing at 75 (LOL). Says they are all good people & with good families. Says he also knows Luke Schenn. Says you can't manage from the office anymore, but next to the people.
*On why it hasn't worked so far - Says its hard to see externally. Don't get to know until you get behind the curtain. Says it's very hard to win in this league. Says talent & skill needs to work at both ends of the ice. Have to check hard in order to win.
*Shanahan, on Dubas timing - says he doesn't think it was iintentional. Says this is how these things play out. Says Pittsburgh/Fenway have been in contact, and he's endorsed Kyle. Says he's very happy for Dubas.
Well he can't say hes going to meet with Keefe and then commit to him in the next breath to appease the media. I got the sense it's 50/50 on keefeHonestly, really liked my first impression of Brad. Confident, thoughtful answers. Gave about as much information as he could without completely dodging peoples questions.
Seems pretty clear to me at least that Sheldon is not coming back. The fact that Brad identified there was work to be done on establishing a relationship and/or a mutual plan of attack seemed to me that there was a bit of a gap in that relationship at the present moment. He also specifically mentioned the coaching decision to be a priority. You'd figure if Sheldon were coming back, Brad would have had that discussion right away and put that argument to rest in front of the media immediately. That is at least how I see it.
I love how he isn't planning on making a knee jerk reaction just to make change. If it makes sense, it appears like he is open to it, but he doesn't look like he wants to get 50c on the dollar for a return. Which is fantastic
I was always a huge Dubas guy, and continue to believe in Kyle but so far I am happy with the Treliving hire. I have a good feeling about him as GM TBH.
Yes da way it should be .. good news is he believes in D and G to win Cups with great checking .. i think you will see our D rebuilt and look much stronger in 2023 season .. still expect to see one of Mitch or Willy gone minimum to rebuild da D .. it really is da only way it can be done due to cAP
TRELIVING / SHANAHAN PRESSER:
*Shanahan starts with his admiration for Treliving. Highlights knowing him well without working directly with him. Many colleagues speak highly of Brad. Excited for him to come to Toronto. Mentions experience in Canadian market is a bonus.
*Brad thanks Brendan & ownership for the opportunity. Opens by praising the city and fans of Calgary. Says its a special place with special people, and will have warm place in his / his family's heart. Praises Calgary ownership, says team is in great hands under Conroy. Wishes them all good luck.
*On Toronto - says until you are here, hard to understand the magnitude of how special it is to be apart of the Leafs. Says he's excited, humbled, but also knows there's a great responsibility in this role. Says he has responsibility to players and fans.
*Says the real draw to taking a special job, is the team. Calls them a great team, with high end talent. Knows there's been heartache and frustration in a hard league, but wants to keep putting team in position to keep knocking on the door until we break through.
*On Matthews negotiation - has communicated with a few players, including Matthews via text. Says he has good relationship with Matthew's agent. Says he doesn't get into public discourse with negotiations, but calls Matthews a world class player who is a priority. Says he wants to meet Auston, but also wants Auston to meet and get to know him as well. Says he's excited to meet and work with him.
*On Keefe - has spoken to Sheldon. Doesn't have a relationship with Sheldon, but told him it's a unique situation. Says his outside lens of Sheldon is this team has been 100+ point team behind a really good coach.
*On core 4 & changing the culture - says we have really good players. Having them excites him. Says they will review everything, but he's not about coming in and making a statement move. Being different doesn't necessarily make you better. Says his job is to protect them - says its not about just the core 4, but the entire team. It's about the Leafs, and their success. Says he's lucky to have them.
*Shanahan, on how much responsibility he bears - says he's felt pressure from day 1 until today. Sometimes along the way, need to make changes. Says he always feels the pressure, which was one of the reasons he took on Leafs job. Always asks what they can do to be better.
*Treliving, on draft restrictions - Shanahan points out that the Flames have placed restrictions on what Brad can and cannot do at the draft, but won't go into details.
*On the Tkachuk trade - calls situation unique & circumstances. Says Matthew came to them & informed them that he wanted to move, which pushed them into the market. Says they worked hard to make an organizational decision that fit Calgary's competitive window. Says he didn't want to move him, but circumstances arise and you have to deal with them as best you can. Says time will dictate how all things play out.
*Shanahan, on GM autonomy - believes in process, but ultimately decision lies with GM. Says Brad is looking forward to meeting staff within organization, and says relationship he and Brad will have as good relationship as he and Kyle.
*Treliving, on adding staff / AGM - one of the draws to Toronto was all the quality staff off the ice. Praises Brendhan Pridham, calls him the best at what he does in the league. Says Pridham helped extensively as a league employee while Treliving was in Arizona. Also Praises Dubas, and calls him a close friend. Says Dubas has left him quality pieces both on and off the ice. Says people before him, including Dubas, Lou, Nonis, and Burke, all have their fingerprints and have contributed to high talent.
*On his biggest priorities - hard to say. Lots of priorities. Says contractual issues will be dealt with. Says Sheldon situation is a priority too. Mentions draft coming up. Says he has to speak to manager's community too - mentions he's a bit behind since leaving Calgary. Says #1 priority is to get out and meet Auston. Says there's a lot to do.
*On relationship with Gio & Brodie - says its good to see Gio still playing at 75 (LOL). Says they are all good people & with good families. Says he also knows Luke Schenn. Says you can't manage from the office anymore, but next to the people.
*On why it hasn't worked so far - Says its hard to see externally. Don't get to know until you get behind the curtain. Says it's very hard to win in this league. Says talent & skill needs to work at both ends of the ice. Have to check hard in order to win.
*Shanahan, on Dubas timing - says he doesn't think it was iintentional. Says this is how these things play out. Says Pittsburgh/Fenway have been in contact, and he's endorsed Kyle. Says he's very happy for Dubas.
Agreed in fact it is COMPLETELY due to JT's 11M AAV .. 2 more years omg .. like Muzzy deal we got 2 great years of JT and then it went south ,. at least Muzzy went on LTIR .. maybe JT can too .. we need to catch a AAV break
And he told lots of dad jokes to appeal to themDubas haters when they find out that Treliving has the same glasses as Dubas:
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...but at least he is older than them so they dont get too frustrated.