Confirmed with Link: Brad Treliving named new GM of the Toronto Maple Leafs

[PromisedLand]

It also helps Nylander that all the defensive focus of other teams is on rightfully shutting down the Matthews-Marner line. At least Marner backchecks and can play a 2-way game, Nylander not so much and coupled with the reports he wasnt allowed to go to the world tournaments make me think he would be the odd man out but it could very well be either of them. We can't run it back fully again can we?...

I think it will boil down to cap constraints anyway. If Tavares' wasn't a boat anchor on the cap issue; we are probably not even having this discussion.

Dubas truly screwed up big time

 

[ShaneFalco]

He sounds a lot like Mike Babcock and sounds a little less "nerdy" if you will, than Kyle Dubas... I like how relaxed and conversational Treliving was. He's not Dubas, sitting stiff with fingers clasped on the table like he's Dustin Hoffman in Rainman or the constant adjustment of the fake glasses or the overuse of big words and constantly calling on media by name. Some of course was good traits in moderation, but Dubas comes off very unauthentic. Treliving was casual, fun and authentic.

But one thing I especially liked about Trelivings interview is he broke down the "core 4" talk and said something along the lines of this not being about a few players, this is the Toronto maple leafs, this is not a two player team or four player team, it's 23. I thought over the past few years it's been way too much about the core players, and not the rest of the team. Keefe especially played into that dialogue. It really felt like this team was four players and everyone else responsibility was to be a warm body and give the core 4 a breath.

Great start, I just hope Treliving isn't too old to embrace advanced state and use them.

wiser's clap

 

[PromisedLand]

Agreed in fact it is COMPLETELY due to JT's 11M AAV .. 2 more years omg .. like Muzzy deal we got 2 great years of JT and then it went south ,. at least Muzzy went on LTIR .. maybe JT can too .. we need to catch a AAV break

If Matthetws and Willy sign for a reasonable AAV; it may work depending on how much the cap goes up. But I doubt if they both will sign for a reasonable AAV giving discounts lol

 

[acrobaticgoalie]

So if he asks for 15 milly you give it to him then?

I wouldn't. I would just be direct with him and ask, how do you justify making almost 3M more than MacKinnon? I would say you are an equivalent player and he's accomplished more than you have. I would also point out how the results have gone thus far in his career after giving the big 3 their big money early in their careers and how difficult it's been to surround them with other top 6 players to help them.

They each need to leave about 1M on the table for the team if they really are serious about winning a cup and being a Leaf. It's not like they are making peanuts. You'd still be making 12M plus endorsements ffs.

 

[Wrong Wilson]

He sounds a lot like Mike Babcock and sounds a little less "nerdy" if you will, than Kyle Dubas... I like how relaxed and conversational Treliving was. He's not Dubas, sitting stiff with fingers clasped on the table like he's Dustin Hoffman in Rainman or the constant adjustment of the fake glasses or the overuse of big words and constantly calling on media by name. Some of course was good traits in moderation, but Dubas comes off very unauthentic. Treliving was casual, fun and authentic.

But one thing I especially liked about Trelivings interview is he broke down the "core 4" talk and said something along the lines of this not being about a few players, this is the Toronto maple leafs, this is not a two player team or four player team, it's 23. I thought over the past few years it's been way too much about the core players, and not the rest of the team. Keefe especially played into that dialogue. It really felt like this team was four players and everyone else responsibility was to be a warm body and give the core 4 a breath.

Great start, I just hope Treliving isn't too old to embrace advanced state and use them.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed he sounds like Babcock.

 

[PromisedLand]

That should solve our scoring issues in the playoffs.

We also have tons of cap space...

Good defense leads to offense

 

[Brobust]

Maybe I misheard I but I think he complimented the forwards for being good defensively, but then pointed out that they're 14th in scoring chances against.

Then he goes on kyper and says his focus on improving the team is protecting the front of the net.

I think half of the leafs defencemen might be replaced within the next 6 weeks.

 

[ToneDog]

I think it will boil down to cap constraints anyway. If Tavares' wasn't a boat anchor on the cap issue; we are probably not even having this discussion.

Dubas truly screwed up big time

But he was expecting the cap to be $100m today. You wanna blame him for not anticipating a flat cap due to a pandemic?? Come on man. Give the rook a break.

 

[notbias]

Good defense leads to offense

good offensive D leads to offense.

Removing a PPG forward probably doesn't offset that though.

Sounds more like a cliche than fact.

 

[PromisedLand]

Go look up how many points JT had last year. He's not an 11m player but it's not like completely useless.

look at Tavares' even strength production he is not even top 50 among all skaters

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He is among Top 5 among cap hits in the league though

 

[ToneDog]

If Matthetws and Willy sign for a reasonable AAV; it may work depending on how much the cap goes up. But I doubt if they both will sign for a reasonable AAV giving discounts lol

The minimum Matty takes is $100k more than Mac. for 3,4, or 5 years. The Leafs would be nuts to give him more than $13.5m. Kyper painted the picture pretty good on today's show for which a link was provided. It is now up to Matty to decide how much he is willing to help Brad surround him with a better supporting cast.

 

[PromisedLand]

good offensive D leads to offense.

Removing a PPG forward probably doesn't offset that though.

Sounds more like a cliche than fact.

First you need a coach who understands how to adjust and devise competent system and lets their D do their thing ex: Liljegren (Keefe is a moron)

In the playoffs, good offensive D can only do so much when there no time and space. One needs to make oppositions' forwards lives miserable in teh d-zone and get the puck out asap.

Solid D makes goalie look good, gives goalie more confidence and doesn't tire out goalie.

There is a reason there is a saying that "Defense wins championships"

Exception for offensive D that can lead to wins would be guys like Makar who don't grow on trees.

 

[ToneDog]

look at Tavares' even strength production he is not even top 50 among all skaters

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He is among Top 5 among cap hits in the league though

Most knew the Tavares deal would be painful the last few years. Dubas was supposed to win us a cup or two before JT got to the cliff. Now he's gonna win 2 or 3 cups for the Pens in the next 5 years. LOL.

 

[Larcos_Unal]

Good interview, Bundy doesn't just believe in airmailing solutions in, the current players need to change how they play and elevate their compete level. No more coddling, no more bullshit, time to nut up.

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[PromisedLand]

But he was expecting the cap to be $100m today. You wanna blame him for not anticipating a flat cap due to a pandemic?? Come on man. Give the rook a break.

Any forecasting model is as good as the data and model going in. And most forecasts are only "decent" for projecting what things may be 1 or 2 months at max in the future not significant changes.

Even without pandemic any economic shock like the financial crisis in 2009 would have ruined cap increases. Cautiously optimistic and managing risks is basic management strategy. come on man

 

[notbias]

First you need a coach who understands how to adjust and devise competent system and lets their D do their thing ex: Liljegren (Keefe is a moron)

In the playoffs, good offensive D can only do so much when there no time and space. One needs to make oppositions' forwards lives miserable in teh d-zone and get the puck out asap.

Solid D makes goalie look good, gives goalie more confidence and doesn't tire out goalie.

There is a reason there is a saying that "Defense wins championships"

Exception for offensive D that can lead to wins would be guys like Makar who don't grow on trees.

The saying isn't even from hockey... but sure.

 

[PromisedLand]

Most knew the Tavares deal would be painful the last few years. Dubas was supposed to win us a cup or two before JT got to the cliff. Now he's gonna win 2 or 3 cups for the Pens in the next 5 years. LOL.

Prediction: Dubas gets canned within 2 years.

 

[authentic]

good offensive D leads to offense.

Removing a PPG forward probably doesn't offset that though.

Sounds more like a cliche than fact.

Replace Nylander with someone who plays a two way game but can also provide offense I would be all for.

 

[Squiffy]

Any forecasting model is as good as the data and model going in. And most forecasts are only "decent" for projecting what things may be 1 or 2 months at max in the future not significant changes.

Even without pandemic any economic shock like the financial crisis in 2009 would have ruined cap increases. Cautiously optimistic and managing risks is basic management strategy. come on man

Even 09 only caused a one year blip of a flat cap. We're talking a cap that went up only 2 million over 5 years. There was no building that in to risk management. Like, it's a thing, knock him all you like but this part is real.

 

[Nooodles]

Replace Nylander with someone who plays a two way game but can also provide offense I would be all for.

 

[Leafsfan74]

I'm guesing he doesn't trade anyone from the core. Shanny probably demanded this during their interview.

More of "working around the fringes.with no cap space". Or, trade Nylander alone with minimal benefit.

Honestly, I hate to sound so negative, but this franchise and its fans deserve their fate if the stay the course. Dubas was a good deal maker but he was fleeced in the RFA negotiations. This new GM has to understand what is needed and not fall for the flash.

 

[JKG33]

Now post the clip of him causing a giveaway in OT by ducking a Gudas hit...

 

[authentic]

How did I know right away that this clip was from when the Leafs were already down 3-0 in the series? Oh yeah, because that's the first time in the playoffs Nylander decided playing defense might actually help.

 

[al secord]

Good defense leads to offense

That sounds made up.

 

[WTFMAN99]

Even 09 only caused a one year blip of a flat cap. We're talking a cap that went up only 2 million over 5 years. There was no building that in to risk management. Like, it's a thing, knock him all you like but this part is real.

The other issue is covid messed up cap projections...he chose to never pivot off the high priced 4 forward plan to the tune of 1 playoff series win.