Confirmed with Link: Brad Treliving named new GM of the Toronto Maple Leafs

[joepeps]

One thing that doesn't work out with the Leafs model is that if an injury occurs in the playoff, that's a huge % of your payroll not contributing to you winning.

Spreading it around a little bit can go a long way.

Forget the injury aspect of it for now. Come playoff time, those 4 HAVE TO put up points or your done.

If you trade 2 of them and even say split it in half, now you have 4 guys plus the other 2 at 11 mil to get you those points. You dont have to rely on 4, now your spread it to 6 players you can count on. If 3 or 4 have an off day or week, your hoping the other 2 or 3 can produce and releave the pressure.

 

[hockeywiz542]

Button on perspective of a newly-hired GM, how Treliving might approach Matthews' extension and more - TSN.ca

TSN's Director of Scouting Craig Button joins Leafs Lunch to discuss the Maple Leafs’ decision to hire Brad Treliving as their next GM. Button shares his thoughts on what it's like to be a newly hired GM, how Treliving might handle contract extensions for Auston Matthews and William Nylander and more.

 

[andora]

good offensive D leads to offense.

Removing a PPG forward probably doesn't offset that though.

Sounds more like a cliche than fact.

At the end of the day good f***en teams score goals different ways... the right mix of players that fit an effective system scores goals different ways

We need to decide what to do cause what we have aint working bottom line

 

[Trapper]

I would try to talk him down from that. I think 14 mill is what will be getting regardless, can't see him taking less than that. It is an overpayment but I would rather overpay him than anyone else on the team. Ideally someone has to be traded and if Nylander wants anywhere close to 10 million I would try to trade him

How much less do you think Nylander is worth than a Matthews? Remember, whatever he signs, the other guys are watching. Do you pay Matthews 14 and then Marner wants 13? 13.5? Is Nylander worth 4 million less than these guys?

 

[PromisedLand]

Ya, sure it's been hard on other teams too, but as you say, it hit the Leafs particularly hard for the reason you mention. It's a thing.

Any good and efficient managemenet has foresight; the time when the contracts were signed half this board was up in arms (exclude dubas fan club); media was wondering wtf is this and there were GMs around the league who said it didn't make sense to them. This was even before the hindsight of pandemic.

 

[The Masters]

Tre said what we all said just now on overdrive

Leafs played better vs tampa last year and lost

And this yr we played worst and won.

 

[al secord]

Button on perspective of a newly-hired GM, how Treliving might approach Matthews' extension and more - TSN.ca

TSN's Director of Scouting Craig Button joins Leafs Lunch to discuss the Maple Leafs’ decision to hire Brad Treliving as their next GM. Button shares his thoughts on what it's like to be a newly hired GM, how Treliving might handle contract extensions for Auston Matthews and William Nylander and more.

"TSN's Director of Scouting"

 

[authentic]

How much less do you think Nylander is worth than a Matthews? Remember, whatever he signs, the other guys are watching. Do you pay Matthews 14 and then Marner wants 13? 13.5? Is Nylander worth 4 million less than these guys?

I don't know I would be trying to trade Nylander probably, or even Marner if it was possible but that doesn't seem to be the case.

 

[The Masters]

"TSN's Director of Scouting"

Pittsburgh’s president of hockey ops

 

[DarkKnight]

Keefe is Dubas’ boy, for the life of me I can’t see Treliving trusting or keeping him. It wasn’t even a normal GM/coach relationship, those two were joined at the hip. Treliving is saying all the right things, but when the dust settles Keefe is gone imo.

 

[al secord]

Pittsburgh’s president of hockey ops

One is an actual board position in the NHL. The other is made up. You don't see the difference?

 

[Trapper]

I don't know I would be trying to trade Nylander probably, or even Marner if it was possible but that doesn't seem to be the case.

Times up on Marner. He might as well have the NMC right now. He has all the power and just needs to wait for Matthews to sign. I don’t see him taking too much less than Matthews. And I don’t mean 2 million less.

 

[The Masters]

One is an actual board position in the NHL. The other is made up. You don't see the difference?

Lol
U missed the joke Big Al

 

[mikeyz]

Keefe is Dubas’ boy, for the life of me I can’t see Treliving trusting or keeping him. It wasn’t even a normal GM/coach relationship, those two were joined at the hip. Treliving is saying all the right things, but when the dust settles Keefe is gone imo.

I don't think he is man. I really think he's coming back.

 

[DarkKnight]

I don't think he is man. I really think he's coming back.

It’s possible, but when he thinks it through, you really can’t keep Dubas’ sidekick, I suspect the conversations are awkward.

 

[ToneDog]

I don't think he is man. I really think he's coming back.

Best case, run it back with a new coach. Run it back with Keefe and fail should be the end for Shanny.

 

[authentic]

Times up on Marner. He might as well have the NMC right now. He has all the power and just needs to wait for Matthews to sign. I don’t see him taking too much less than Matthews. And I don’t mean 2 million less.

I agree. It would be nice if they could do 13.5 and 12 or something.

 

[crump]

Wait until BT sits down and watches our playoff games over the past couple of seasons. He's going to be shocked by the frequency of fly-bys and the team's deer in the highlights reaction to the rough stuff.

I know historically Treliving likes a heavy team. (Maybe to a fault with Lucic), but even his first coach, Hartley, was a son of a beotch And that’s why he probably kept him when most would stick there own coach in a new job.

I think the players surrounding the skill are going to get meaner. I think the defense are going to get meaner. It’s too bad Dubas figured it out much too late. Adding Schenn, Acciari are the right moves. Maybe find some younger versions.

We’ll see.

 

[ToneDog]

I know historically Treliving likes a heavy team. (Maybe to a fault with Lucic), but even his first coach, Hartley, was a son of a beotch And that’s why he probably kept him when most would stick there own coach in a new job.

I think the players surrounding the skill are going to get meaner. I think the defense are going to get meaner. It’s too bad Dubas figured it out much too late. Adding Schenn, Acciari are the right moves. Maybe find some younger versions.

We’ll see.

I'm really tired of filling out the roster via UFA. Hasn't worked for 5 years under Dumbass and it won't work this year.

 

[The Masters]

I don't think he is man. I really think he's coming back.

We have to look which coaches would be better. Experienced ones.

 

[hockeywiz542]

Brendan Shanahan's big gamble: Can Brad Treliving get the Maple Leafs to the next level?

Shanahan is putting his job on the line that Treliving can succeed where Kyle Dubas could not.

theathletic.com

Auston Matthews shared a close relationship with Dubas. The now-former Leafs GM was there on stage in Buffalo when Matthews was picked No. 1 at the 2016 draft. In other words, Dubas was with the Leafs in one capacity or another for the entirety of Matthews’ career in the league.

Treliving won’t be able to build that kind of kinship overnight, obviously, but he’ll have to try and make Matthews believe in him and his ability to steer the franchise.

One large sliver of the bet that Shanahan made in grabbing the keys from Dubas and turning them over to a newcomer like Treliving was tied to Matthews. The bet: That another GM, someone unfamiliar to Matthews, wouldn’t hurt the Leafs’ chances of keeping him.

Not just keep him either, but keep him as long as possible.

Will Matthews be less willing to sign a longer-term deal with Treliving in charge than he would have been with Dubas? And if Matthews wavers about signing any deal at all, for a month or two, or even beyond the start of the season, how will Treliving handle that?

Another understandably less-talked-about priority on the contract front is William Nylander, who can also sign an extension as soon as Canada Day. Unlike Matthews, the question with Nylander is whether to sign him or not. And if not, what then?

Nylander’s limited no-trade clause kicks in on the same day the Leafs can extend him.

If Treliving doesn’t want to sign Nylander, or isn’t comfortable meeting his asking price, is he willing to let him play out the year? Is he trading him? And if so, what for? Will he know Nylander’s true value or undersell him like those outside the Leafs long have?

This wasn’t going to be an easy decision for Dubas, a long-time Nylander supporter. It’s going to be even harder for an outsider like Treliving, especially with the tight timeline involved.

Treliving wouldn’t commit to anything when it came to the subject of the core, and whether a trade was in order.

“We will look at all things,” he said.

Was Shanahan trying to take the pressure off his new GM when, according to TSN’s/NorthStar Bets’ Chris Johnston, he told Matthews, Nylander, Mitch Marner, and John Tavares that they were all likely to return next season? Was he speaking for his new GM? Does Treliving at least test the market over the next few weeks? Does he have time to come up with something that makes the Leafs better?

One of the problems with Shanahan (apparently) stubbornly clinging to all four stars again is how difficult it will be to truly upgrade the roster otherwise.

If they’re not at least willing to explore trades with Nylander or Marner, say, how exactly do the Leafs plan on landing a No. 2 centre who can push Tavares over to his rightful place on the wing? The UFA options in the middle aren’t great.

Shanahan obviously believes Treliving will make shrewd decisions on the free-agent marketplace. The Leafs have soooo many holes to fill on that front and will have to score a few deals, especially if they plan on remaining committed to that top-heavy salary structure.

 

[rielledup]

Unless there's something I'm missing I've never understood people ripping Tre for the Tkathuk Huberdeau trade, he was put in a spot where he had to try and get something Tkachuk.

 

[ToneDog]

Unless there's something I'm missing I've never understood people ripping Tre for the Tkathuk Huberdeau trade, he was put in a spot where he had to try and get something Tkachuk.

He talked about it with Kyper. Said he was holding a 2 and a 3 while other teams had a pair of kings. I thought he did pretty good getting a 115 point Huberdeau, Weager and a 1st for a player everybody knew wanted out of Calgary.

 

[leafs in five]

the constant adjustment of the fake glasses

lmao

 

[hockeywiz542]

Brad Treliving on being named Leafs GM, removing the "Core 4" narrative & how he'll approach Sheldon Keefe - TSN.ca

Toronto Maple Leafs General Manager Brad Treliving joined the show today and got into a number of things including what it means to be here in Toronto with the Leafs, how he intends to remove the "Core 4" narrative and how he plans to approach Sheldon Keefe.