Value of: Boone Jenner to COL

[stevo61]

As opposed to all the good things they've been doing the past months/years/decades?

Yeah. They are the youngest or close to it team every year, Id like them to stop that. I dont want them to be a team like Edmonton/Buffalo that sucks forever and relies on lottery luck. They have the kids and tons of picks, they need to be insulated by vets not trade vets away.

 

[MarchessaultCantRead]

As opposed to all the good things they've been doing the past months/years/decades?

Jenner is a great two-way player, but I’m not sure about the value that CBJ fans place on his intangibles.

I’m sure he is a great locker room guy, but all he has ever done in his NHL career is lose games.

Do the young guys really place that much value on how he plays/what he says?

 

[cslebn]

We know more than that.

What's the source of that?

 

[Viqsi]

Let’s be fair here, assume he’s up for sale.

Not practical, because that assumption utterly fundamentally changes what the necessary return would be. You might as well come up with premises like "assume Ritchie is playing in the NHL as a competent #2C right now".

 

[Viqsi]

I’m sure he is a great locker room guy, but all he has ever done in his NHL career is lose games.

Tampa Bay and Toronto might disagree.

 

[dirtydanglez]

not worth moving ritchie over imo.

 

[Viqsi]

You can say this all you want. You aren't management and nothing you say has any impact on what they do.

No, but I know how to read a roster and I've got a pretty good handle on how they operate.

We(Avs fans) have it on good authority that Jenner to the Avs is a real possibility, that Jenner is aware of the Avs interest in him, and that he would waive his NTC to come to Colorado.

Unless you have actual sources rather than "a poster we know heard from a friend of a friend" (which is against HFBoards rules, by the way), y'all don't know a damn thing.

 

[GhostfaceWu]

lol no team should trade essentially two firsts for a 40ish point player.

 

[3074326]

As opposed to all the good things they've been doing the past months/years/decades?

Use your brain, man. Try to at least put yourself in their shoes. They need players who can play center. It isn't complicated. They're not obligated to trade their captain.

 

[Tralfamadore]

Seems like a lot to me?

Essentially two 1sts one of which is a prospect whose stock has risen quite a lot. Ritchie has a good chance of becoming a Jenner level player on a cost controlled contract.

 

[squashmaple]

As opposed to all the good things they've been doing the past months/years/decades?

The Blue Jackets have more wins since 2010 than Edmonton does despite not making the playoffs since 2020. Pipe down.

 

[McSuper]

Jenner is a great two-way player, but I’m not sure about the value that CBJ fans place on his intangibles.

I’m sure he is a great locker room guy, but all he has ever done in his NHL career is lose games.

Do the young guys really place that much value on how he plays/what he says?

Yes because it is all his fault. Like after all he plays net, defensive and all foward position at the same time. He should be able to beat Avs , Vegas , Boston , NYR , Vancouver , Winnipeg , Florida and the Oilers by himself. Just terrible player.

Oilers offer 2 1st a B prospect but will need to send back a player for cap reason

Jenner is a great two-way player, but I’m not sure about the value that CBJ fans place on his intangibles.

I’m sure he is a great locker room guy, but all he has ever done in his NHL career is lose games.

Do the young guys really place that much value on how he plays/what he says?

Yes because it is all his fault. Like after all he plays net, defensive and all foward position at the same time. He should be able to beat Avs , Vegas , Boston , NYR , Vancouver , Winnipeg , Florida and the Oilers by himself. Just terrible player.

Oilers offer 2 1st a B prospect but will need to send back a player for cap reason

 

[Freaky Styley]

Seems like a lot to me?

Essentially two 1sts one of which is a prospect whose stock has risen quite a lot. Ritchie has a good chance of becoming a Jenner level player on a cost controlled contract.

As opposed to Jenner already being a Jenner-like player right now during the Avs window on a cost controlled deal for 3 playoff runs?

lol no team should trade essentially two firsts for a 40ish point player.

You mean like Brandon Hagel or Blake Coleman? Jenner's totals are low because of his situation in Columbus and missed games. He's paced 61 points and 54 points over the last 2 seasons if he played a full season. On the Avs, he's no doubt closer to a 60 point player, much like Lehkonen

 

[GhostfaceWu]

As opposed to Jenner already being a Jenner-like player right now during the Avs window on a cost controlled deal for 3 playoff runs?

You mean like Brandon Hagel or Blake Coleman? Jenner's totals are low because of his situation in Columbus and missed games. He's paced 61 points and 54 points over the last 2 seasons if he played a full season. On the Avs, he's no doubt closer to a 60 point player, much like Lehkonen

Bringing up two stupid trade decisions by tampa isn't some flex. Hagel is a good a player but what team success has it translated to? Spending that much on depth players is just dumb and now Tampa is seeing the folly in that tactic with a depleted prospect pool and they are playing like the wild card team they now are.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Bringing up two stupid trade decisions by tampa isn't some flex. Hagel is a good a player but what team success has it translated to? Spending that much on depth players is just dumb and now Tampa is seeing the folly in that tactic with a depleted prospect pool and they are playing like the wild card team they now are.

How was the Hagel trade a bad one? This response should be good.

 

[AvStock]

No disrespect to Avs fans.... But you should give it a full season before annointing Ritchie the next-one. Believing he could occupy the 2C next season is so Newhook-ish.

That’s NewJost to you sir

 

[Junohockeyfan]

That’s NewJost to you sir

Could be NewRitchie if you rush him!

 

[Perratrooper]

Both teams say no I think. Jenner is the heart and soul of CBJ on a great contract and the value Colorado is giving up might be better used targeting a more elite player.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Both teams say no I think. Jenner is the heart and soul of CBJ on a great contract and the value Colorado is giving up might be better used targeting a more elite player.

The issue the Avs are facing is the players they are seeking are not available. Its a losing proposition. To make those players avaialble it would take an overpayment of epic proportions.

 

[AllAboutAvs]

Yeah I wouldn't trade Ritchie for Jenner but I would trade him for a younger long-term 2C.

If Ritchie is on the Avs next year it will be on the 3rd line not at 2C.

 

[Tralfamadore]

As opposed to Jenner already being a Jenner-like player right now during the Avs window on a cost controlled deal for 3 playoff runs?

You mean like Brandon Hagel or Blake Coleman? Jenner's totals are low because of his situation in Columbus and missed games. He's paced 61 points and 54 points over the last 2 seasons if he played a full season. On the Avs, he's no doubt closer to a 60 point player, much like Lehkonen

Yah f*** it. I'd do it.

 

[Cypher]

The Blue Jackets have more wins since 2010 than Edmonton does despite not making the playoffs since 2020. Pipe down.

And I care why?

But sure, keep staying status quo and expecting different results in CBJ.

 

[Viqsi]

And I care why?

Just gives a point of reference versus a team that you're potentially familiar with given your location even if you don't follow them regularly.

 

[Freaky Styley]

How was the Hagel trade a bad one? This response should be good.

Coleman trade also turned out pretty well for them...

 

[Mrfenn92]

Coleman trade also turned out pretty well for them...

Goodrow worked well also