Value of: Boone Jenner to COL

[GirardSpinorama]

Probably the same way he's done when we pair him with playmakers here - start absolutely destroying everyone putting up a point per game or more and then get injured within three or four weeks by some headhunting asshat.

Probably in 2 weeks with the Avs.

 

[Freaky Styley]

What folks keep overlooking is that the bolded is also true for Jenner and the Jackets.

Agree to disagree. The Jackets should be sellers and Jenner's value will probably never be higher. There are definitely scenarios in which it would make sense for him to move, whether you agree or management agrees, there's some logic to it. Kings are trying to contend and won't move their 2C

 

[McJedi]

Agree to disagree. The Jackets should be sellers and Jenner's value will probably never be higher. There are definitely scenarios in which it would make sense for him to move, whether you agree or management agrees, there's some logic to it. Kings are trying to contend and won't move their 2C

Why is Jenner’s value highest right now? He’s not having a good season.

 

[Cowumbus]

Agree to disagree. The Jackets should be sellers and Jenner's value will probably never be higher. There are definitely scenarios in which it would make sense for him to move, whether you agree or management agrees, there's some logic to it. Kings are trying to contend and won't move their 2C

Byram
Ritchie
1st
Johansen

For
Jenner
Bean

 

[JoeSakic13]

Byram
Ritchie
1st
Johansen

For
Jenner
Bean

Wow, I’m guessing you’re enjoying the fact that weed is legal in Columbus now.

 

[Freaky Styley]

Why is Jenner’s value highest right now? He’s not having a good season.

1. 3 years left at his current cap hit
2. The center market is thin
3. He's not getting any younger

 

[Cowumbus]

Wow, I’m guessing you’re enjoying the fact that weed is legal in Columbus now.

I don’t like weed unfortunately.

they asked what it would take, there’s a counter for you. I would like to keep Jenner for the next 3 years. Even took the bad Johansen contract you’re trying to move

 

[BobRossColton]

Byram
Olausson
1st
Johansen

For
Jenner
Texier

Fixed

 

[Viqsi]

Agree to disagree.

Yeah, um, no. Mostly because you're trying to "agree to disagree" about whether or not my team should be self-sabotaging. It's very easy to be academic about it when you're not the one who's going to have to watch things go down in flames when a foolish reach is attempted.

 

[Crede777]

Agree to disagree. The Jackets should be sellers and Jenner's value will probably never be higher. There are definitely scenarios in which it would make sense for him to move, whether you agree or management agrees, there's some logic to it. Kings are trying to contend and won't move their 2C

The Jackets are trying to be on the upswing in their build. That's why they added Provorov and Severson over the summer. Trading Jenner would only serve to lengthen the rebuild further and would remove a valuable leader from one of the youngest teams in the league. That's a recipe for botching the rebuild that they just went through.

 

[Alienblood]

Fine. I can see how a bad contract in Laine would be traded for other bad contracts like Goodrow with a pick going to Columbus to make up the difference in talent level between the bad contracts.

I think at this point, Laine has very little value if any. He's already on a bad team so I'm not sure why another bad team would want him and think he'd make them better. And a good team won't be able to handle his cap hit unless they send a really bad contract the other way, which is maybe his best hope. Laine to the Oilers for Kane type deal???

I still don't see the need for Jenner to the Avs at such a high cost. Jenner isn't the kind of player the Avs are missing. They don't need leadership as they have plenty of it. They need a better 2C. Jenner plays a hard game, but gets hurt a lot and doesn't score many points. He's not a great defensive player either. He's a career 99.4 PDO player so I'm not sure there is much upside here and he's having a very modest 2023-24 season.

If the Avs are trading a 2024 1st + an awesome prospect like Ritchie... we should aim higher than Boone Jenner. Maybe Danault, who is a Selke nominee many seasons and has a 97.4 PDO this year. Career 98 PDO. Better in the dot and better defensively. A 2nd line of Lex-Danault-Nuke would be the best defensive and forechecking line in the NHL. Killer PK potential too. Kings season coming off the rails anyway.

Danault is 50.7 % om faceoffs , Jenner is 54.7%

but yeah no way we should trade Ritchie for Jenner

 

[Alienblood]

The Jackets are trying to be on the upswing in their build. That's why they added Provorov and Severson over the summer. Trading Jenner would only serve to lengthen the rebuild further and would remove a valuable leader from one of the youngest teams in the league. That's a recipe for botching the rebuild that they just went through.

aren't they planning on trading Provorov ?

 

[Viqsi]

aren't they planning on trading Provorov ?

Yes... in a year or two, when Mateychuk is ready.

 

[Joe Sakic]

Bleck, Boone Jenner is an idiot.

"No what Babcock did with my phone was totally normal, very heart warming type stuff"

...1 week later...

*Babcock fired*

 

[McJedi]

Danault is 50.7 % om faceoffs , Jenner is 54.7%

but yeah no way we should trade Ritchie for Jenner

Fine. Jenner is better in the dot and no where else defensively. Jenner isn't good defensively.

Jenner actually comes from the same OHL club as Ritchie. Oshawa. Was drafted just 10 picks after Ritchie (37th vs 27th overall). In Jenner's post draft year, he was barely over a PPG in the OHL... Not bad at all, but no where near Ritchie being one of the OHLs top players and PPG producers at 1.76 PPG.

I like Jenner's contract at $3.75MM per. That's solid value, but not some screaming deal. He's a middle six C not an awesome 2C. He's a better player than RyJo overall, better skater, but his stats are pretty similar. And RyJo isn't playing PP1 or with stars. The Avs middle six is pretty blah when you don't have one of Nuke or Lex in the lineup most of this season. With Jenner at 2C, it's still pretty blah.

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[Cowumbus]

Fixed

Far from it. Olaussen has little value to us. Put Ritchie back in and keep Texier, I’d do it.

Jenner, Texier
For
Johansen, Byram, Ritchie, 1st

You gain 3.8 mill in cap space, Jenner for 2.5 more years and Texier as an RFA.

We have to eat Johansen’s deal for another year, get Byram who I think is good but admittedly isn’t having his best year (and has some injury concerns), Ritchie (a top prospect) and a late 1st round pick 25OA+.

 

[BobRossColton]

Far from it. Olaussen has little value to us. Put Ritchie back in and keep Texier, I’d do it.

Jenner, Texier
For
Johansen, Byram, Ritchie, 1st

You gain 3.8 mill in cap space, Jenner for 2.5 more years and Texier as an RFA.

We have to eat Johansen’s deal for another year, get Byram who I think is good but admittedly isn’t having his best year (and has some injury concerns), Ritchie (a top prospect) and a late 1st round pick 25OA+.

You've got fantilli, sillinger, Kent Johnson, and you could just buy out ryjo(1.3m).

 

[Cowumbus]

You've got fantilli, sillinger, Kent Johnson, and you could just buy out ryjo(1.3m).

KJ is a winger. You could just buy out Ry Jo too. Our management is not keen on retention/buyouts while the team is this bad.

 

[Xoggz22]

Seeing all these Boone to whatever team threads.... one thing that would be apparent. If the CBJ did decide to trade Boone for more youth, there is absolutely no need to hold on to the other veterans as that puts them even further behind the playoff curve. Boone isn't a 1C but he's a big time glue piece that is important to the organization. You move him, you need to replace him with someone else for the leadership group. this also sends a message that Columbus doesn't think they have the veterans to take a step forward with their youth movement.

I happen to think the young core is already showing they will be a good group to move forward with but they need guidance. Now if the argument is that Boone doesn't provide that... Then we have a different story. They need more like him to take a step. More youth isn't needed.

 

[StewieP19]

Not sure Jenner really want to leave Columbus.
As per Colorado GM he want a C who got speed.
Does Jenner got a lot of speed ?

 

[Avsfan1921]

Far from it. Olaussen has little value to us. Put Ritchie back in and keep Texier, I’d do it.

Jenner, Texier
For
Johansen, Byram, Ritchie, 1st

You gain 3.8 mill in cap space, Jenner for 2.5 more years and Texier as an RFA.

We have to eat Johansen’s deal for another year, get Byram who I think is good but admittedly isn’t having his best year (and has some injury concerns), Ritchie (a top prospect) and a late 1st round pick 25OA+.

What kind of player is texier these days? I don’t get to watch a lot of cbj even though all the Avs seem to do is target their players lol.

 

[Coffees]

I don’t really see a fit

 

[Viqsi]

Not sure Jenner really want to leave Columbus.
As per Colorado GM he want a C who got speed.
Does Jenner got a lot of speed ?

Boone is and does many awesome things, but being speedy is not really one of them.

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

Boone is and does many awesome things, but being speedy is not really one of them.

Roslovic does though, 2C found!

 

[NOTENOUGHRYJOTHINGS]

Boone is and does many awesome things, but being speedy is not really one of them.

Can he play a quick gamd? Like get the puck and move it quickly. And take passes in transition and dump it in?

That's the type of guy who will succeed in the Aves system. Guys who create offense by slowing things down are a bad fit. But they don't necessarily have to be super fast skaters.