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kilowatt said:
No way, we did Quick dirty, not the other way around. It was just the right amount of egg on Blake’s face after kicking the greatest goalie in our history to the curb for another first round exit.

I only want the best for Quickie.
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You don't like Gavrikov?
 
yankeeking said:
There is a difference between what we do and who we get and how it is handled , what they did to quick was wrong
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Was it though? I think Blake handled it the best he could. He asked Quick if he was retiring after his contract, he said no, so he was traded. It isn't like Quick was winning games for the Kings, he was clearly declining and wasn't working here.

I have issues with alot of what Blake has done/is doing but his handling of Quick was the best he could do with a bad situation. I only wish he'd done it a year or two earlier when Quick had higher value.

Lastly, Quick didn't handle the whole thing great himself, essentially refusing to play for Columbus and forcing a trade to a contender. Spoke volumes of both his work ethic and his cockiness.
 
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yankeeking said:
There is a difference between what we do and who we get and how it is handled , what they did to quick was wrong
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Quick WON A CUP because of what Blake 'did'..which eventually resulted to him being signed by his dream team to finish out his career. I'm sure Quick is good with it!

Everyone wants Blake to have balls, make bold moves, not be tied to the vets. When he actually does just that, we get out the pitch forks. Twilight Zone...
 
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Axl Rhoadz said:
Quick WON A CUP because of what Blake 'did'..which eventually resulted to him being signed by his dream team to finish out his career. I'm sure Quick is good with it!

Everyone wants Blake to have balls, make bold moves, not be tied to the vets. When he actually does just that, we get out the pitch forks. Twilight Zone...
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Umm....what??? Quick won a cup because of what Lombardi did and the players surrounding him did, Blake had nothing to do with the Cup wins
 
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GoldenBearHockey said:
Umm....what??? Quick won a cup because of what Lombardi did and the players surrounding him did, Blake had nothing to do with the Cup wins
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What are offended by now? I was talking about last season when Quick was traded, which is what Kilowatt Yankeeking were talking about. Nothing about Lombardi, nothing about Blake contributing to the Cup teams. Settle down friend. This is second day in a row you've targeted me for your little tantrums.
 
tigermask48 said:
Was it though? I think Blake handled it the best he could. He asked Quick if he was retiring after his contract, he said no, so he was traded. It isn't like Quick was winning games for the Kings, he was clearly declining and wasn't working here.

I have issues with alot of what Blake has done/is doing but his handling of Quick was the best he could do with a bad situation. I only wish he'd done it a year or two earlier when Quick had higher value.

Lastly, Quick didn't handle the whole thing great himself, essentially refusing to play for Columbus and forcing a trade to a contender. Spoke volumes of both his work ethic and his cockiness.
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I mean Blake himself said something like, players like Carter and Quick, although do not have trade protection have earned that . That was before selling off for the rebuild, but still he said it, and then blindsides Quick.
Just have the conversation first. Not just for Quick but for the rest of the team.
 
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YP44 said:
I mean Blake himself said something like, players like Carter and Quick, although do not have trade protection have earned that . That was before selling off for the rebuild, but still he said it, and then blindsides Quick.
Just have the conversation first. Not just for Quick but for the rest of the team.
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It sounds like they did. They at the very least discussed whether Quick was retiring last year.
 
YP44 said:
I mean Blake himself said something like, players like Carter and Quick, although do not have trade protection have earned that . That was before selling off for the rebuild, but still he said it, and then blindsides Quick.
Just have the conversation first. Not just for Quick but for the rest of the team.
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With all this insider info you have, it's almost like you were there.
 
tigermask48 said:
What are offended by now? I was talking about last season when Quick was traded, which is what Kilowatt Yankeeking were talking about. Nothing about Lombardi, nothing about Blake contributing to the Cup teams. Settle down friend. This is second day in a row you've targeted me for your little tantrums.
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I respond to Axl...and I'm targeting you? WTF reality are you living in?
 
Axl Rhoadz said:
With all this insider info you have, it's almost like you were there.
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Dick comment. No that is what was reported and said to the media.

tigermask48 said:
It sounds like they did. They at the very least discussed whether Quick was retiring last year.
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I didn't read anywhere where that they gave him a heads up that he maybe dealt. Everything I read was that it was a shock to Quick and team. That deal itself i am good with as it addressed our need for a top 4 LHD. It just seems like it did go down the way Blake said he would conduct himself with players of Quick's caliber.
 
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YP44 said:
Dick comment. No that is what was reported and said to the media.



I didn't read anywhere where that they gave him a heads up that he maybe dealt. Everything I read was that it was a shock to Quick and team. That deal itself i am good with as it addressed our need for a top 4 LHD. It just seems like it did go down the way Blake said he would conduct himself with players of Quick's caliber.
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What do you mean by have the conversation first? Are you suggesting that Blake should have gotten Quick's 'OK' to make the trade that would improve the team going forward? Do you really think that's how trades work? - "Hey Jonathan, we really need to what's best for the team and ultimately what's best for you. Is it cool if we trade you to CBJ?"

I don't know how it went down, what was said, what wasn't said .. how Quick feels about it, how Blakes feels about it.....and guess what, no matter how much blind hate you have for Blake, you don't know either! This was taken from the LA Times article:

>>Blake conceded it was unfortunate he couldn’t deliver the news to Quick in person after the Kings’ 6-5 shootout victory at Winnipeg on Tuesday. Blake didn’t go on the trip, and when Hockey Night in Canada reporter Elliotte Friedman broke the news on Twitter, Blake couldn’t wait. He spoke to Quick by phone and separately to Drew Doughty and Anze Kopitar, now the last players left from the Cup teams. Were they shocked? Disappointed? “Both,” Blake said.<<
 
Yeah I guess I only ever saw the report of them discussing Quick's plan beyond the end of the contract.
GoldenBearHockey said:
I respond to Axl...and I'm targeting you? WTF reality are you living in?
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I genuinely apologize GBH, I have Axl on block (after he started harassing me in PMs during his last break) so I didn't see what or who you were responding to.

No doubt it was something bordering on crazy knowing Axl (he needs to be banned) and your response was likely the correct response.

Again, sorry for my response and I hope that clears things up.
 
tigermask48 said:
It sounds like they did. They at the very least discussed whether Quick was retiring last year.
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if you remember quick found out the night of the trade by phone, not how you should handle one of your core guys , they let brown drag us down for the last couple of years and didnt even put him on the fourth line ,take him off the PP and he definately was blocking guys especially that last season , thats how you treat your aging core and quick deserved blake at least flying to the game that day to tell him in person ......in interviews the next few days he was clearly surprised
 
Longterm contracts are the devil. Sure, there is security, but they do often end up with a bitter taste in the mouths of the players and the fans.

At the very least, Kopitar's didn't turn him into a pariah like Brown and Quick. Though, I do often wonder if his style of keeping gas in the tank for the long haul reduced the impact of letting it all hang out earlier in his career. Who knows what could have happened if he went for broke during his prime years.

Doughty's play will likely be serviceable at a minimum towards the end of his deal, just a question of whether his highly competitive nature will allow him to accept a lesser role without creating any issues. Based on the recent article and his outward vocalizations at the end of 2021, that is an area of concern.
 
bland said:
Longterm contracts are the devil. Sure, there is security, but they do often end up with a bitter taste in the mouths of the players and the fans.
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Have there been any longterm contracts that haven't aged like milk at some point? Crosby maybe, but that may have more to do with him being superstitious with his constant 8.7 cap hit that the contract being fair market value. Kopitar's 2009 contract fits this thought as well.

Just seems that for every one that works out, there are 10 that don't and end horribly.
 
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