Prospect Info: [2024 - 5th] Ivan Motherbleeping Demidov (RW), SKA St. Petersburg (MHL)

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Not luck, competent...finally. Kent Hughes, merci
No way they could forecast that Hutson would be available at #62 and Fowler in the 3rd round when 5 other goalies were selected ahead of him. Same with Hage who should had been top-15. Even Demidov should had been top three, no later. Yes, they were lucky. Bruins used to be lucky too with Bergeron, Marchand and Pastrnak. TB too with Kucherov and Point…
 

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Best prospect since Carey Price in term of pure talent, 100%.

Him and Michael Hage will transform the forward group, for sure.
 
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Ok so generational?

No just a star, we haven't had a star forward since....Stephane Richer?

It's like a FLYING UNICORN from cocopuff island. The last forwards stars playing hockey in the provinces are Joe Sakic and Peter Forsberg, that tells you how long freaking ago that was.

Ok Damphousse blah blah blah
Turgeon blah blah blah
Boring.

What if Koivu blah blah blah
Kovalev for 1 season blah blah blah
Dreams.
 
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WeThreeKings

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I'm well aware of that, it doesn't change the fact +14 doesn't mean much when we know Rotenberg isolates him as much as possible. The compete and skills are self-evident, but the +14 means nothing.

Plus/Minus almost always effectively means nothing, which is why I posted about what his impact is defensively and it's very encouraging for a skilled offensive prospect like himself.

Demidov conspired to get drafted by the Habs.


And boy are were happy!

It does seem like it was his preferred destination, and just like anyone, I have no problem with them doing that in the pre-draft process.

f*** the Gauthier's and McGroarty's of the world.
 

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Everything I've seen of Demidov, which isn't very much, points to him being future great
Wait until he see him on the Habs, he's going to be a bust then. :sarcasm:

And it's not even a joke, SKA plays better collectively than the Habs do.
 

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What toxic situation ? What did the team do to Russians that would be qualified as toxic and which players were purged after February 2022 ? Romanov in the summer ? They've drafted 4 Russians since btw.
A month before the Slafkovsky draft, Russian media reported that Philadelphia and Montreal would not be taking Russians in the upcoming draft.

The report was correct, and neither team took any Russians. The Habs also traded the only Russian player off their roster on the same day.

They also fired their Russian scout and had zero presence in Russia.

Just last year, the Habs were the first team in forever to not have any Russians on their NHL or AHL roster.

I’m sure the situation amongst the players wasn’t toxic towards Russians, but there weren’t any Russians to be toxic too. Management clearly had a moral stance against Russian players at the time, and by the time Michkov came around the damage was already done regarding Montreal’s image in Russia.
 

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A month before the Slafkovsky draft, Russian media reported that Philadelphia and Montreal would not be taking Russians in the upcoming draft.

The report was correct, and neither team took any Russians. The Habs also traded the only Russian player off their roster on the same day.

They also fired their Russian scout and had zero presence in Russia.

Just last year, the Habs were the first team in forever to not have any Russians on their NHL or AHL roster.

I’m sure the situation amongst the players wasn’t toxic towards Russians, but there weren’t any Russians to be toxic too. Management clearly had a moral stance against Russian players at the time, and by the time Michkov came around the damage was already done regarding Montreal’s image in Russia.

They traded Romanov because we were able to get Dach for him.

For a while we had no Swedish players on the team. It's just how the cookie crumbled.

I suspect we passed on Michkov because Bobrov had inside information about his attitude. We'll see what becomes of him. I'll be pissed if Michkov ends up becoming a wizard and we were deprived of seeing him play with Demidov and Hutson, plus Suzuki and Caufield in spots. But both Michkov and Reinbacher have a lot of road ahead.
 

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The question is this...to who the f*** will Demidov be on par with on this team so that they'd be able to follow his vision? Who scores on this team apart from Caufield?

Chances are if we don't add to it. we will think Demidov is a dud in the NHL 'cause he gets no point when he actually nobody will be able to complete his plays...

If only we could have drafted a talented scorer...but they are not available at the draft we pick....
 
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The question is this...to who the f*** will Demidov be on par with on this team so that they'd be able to follow his vision? Who scores on this team apart from Caufield?

Chances are if we don't add to it. we will think Demidov is a dud in the NHL 'cause he gets no point when he actually nobody will be able to complete his plays...
Offensively elite player always find way to participate in the offense of their team and produce. He will make the average player he plays with produce. And we don’t know with whom he may play, he will be paired with Caufield and Suzuki, or Dach and Laine. Both are more than enough for any elite player to complete their play.
 

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A month before the Slafkovsky draft, Russian media reported that Philadelphia and Montreal would not be taking Russians in the upcoming draft.

I remember this report.

The report was correct, and neither team took any Russians. The Habs also traded the only Russian player off their roster on the same day.

I don't think they traded Romanov because he was Russian. I think it was because Habs saw an opportunity to acquire Dach. And because it took a 1st round pick to get him, Romanov was the one who had the value to acquire that 1st from the Isles. And with the influx of LDs who were turning pro (Guhle, Xhekaj & Harris). Romanov became dispensable.

They also fired their Russian scout and had zero presence in Russia.

I don't know if they fired him or his contract was up and didn't renew it. Either way, they already had Boisvert who is an international crossover scout. They had Rockstrom who is a European scout. And they had Bobrov with connections in Russia. And they have their scouts not just be in their own corners, but it's a more collaborative effort.

They've drafted Russians in 2023 and 2024 without a Russian scout.

Just last year, the Habs were the first team in forever to not have any Russians on their NHL or AHL roster.

I’m sure the situation amongst the players wasn’t toxic towards Russians, but there weren’t any Russians to be toxic too. Management clearly had a moral stance against Russian players at the time, and by the time Michkov came around the damage was already done regarding Montreal’s image in Russia.

Not taking Michkov had nothing to do with him being Russian. Because in the same draft, Habs took Konyushkov and Volokhin. And in 2024 they took Demidov and Khanin.

Not taking Michkov had to be either the info the Habs gathered on him turned them off or his 3 years remaining on his contrat also made them weary of taking him.
 

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The question is this...to who the f*** will Demidov be on par with on this team so that they'd be able to follow his vision? Who scores on this team apart from Caufield?

Chances are if we don't add to it. we will think Demidov is a dud in the NHL 'cause he gets no point when he actually nobody will be able to complete his plays...

If only we could have drafted a talented scorer...but they are not available at the draft we pick....

Laine is on the team, y'know.
 
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Grate n Colorful Oz

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Still needs to be determined. Still needs to stay with the team. Imagine that...the only other proven scorer we have and hope for is a guy who is still a huge unknown....and we are suppose to be in the mix...lol

Suzuki also scored over 30 last year. That's 3 guys. Caufield, Suzuki and Laine.

You're exagerating the problem.
 

Adam Michaels

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The question is this...to who the f*** will Demidov be on par with on this team so that they'd be able to follow his vision? Who scores on this team apart from Caufield?

Chances are if we don't add to it. we will think Demidov is a dud in the NHL 'cause he gets no point when he actually nobody will be able to complete his plays...

If only we could have drafted a talented scorer...but they are not available at the draft we pick....

The Habs definitely need to add some more skill.

But having Demidov with the likes of Caufield, Suzuki, Slaf, Dach, Laine (who will still have 1 more year left). Those are talented players. Dach might not look the greatest now, but he is coming back from being a year out with a really big injury. It will take time before he becomes the player we saw him becoming. But when he gets his game back, that's a talented player Demidov can play with.

Hopefully Hage doesn't take long to be with the Habs because this kid looks like he has the skill to keep up with Demidov. And I'm actually looking at someone like Mesar, who plays the game with pace and is off to a strong start in Laval.
 

morhilane

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The question is this...to who the f*** will Demidov be on par with on this team so that they'd be able to follow his vision? Who scores on this team apart from Caufield?

Chances are if we don't add to it. we will think Demidov is a dud in the NHL 'cause he gets no point when he actually nobody will be able to complete his plays...

If only we could have drafted a talented scorer...but they are not available at the draft we pick....
The real reason nobody score on the team is because of positioning. There is rarelly anyone placed to shovel rebounds or pick a pass to the slot.
 

Whitesnake

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The real reason nobody score on the team is because of positioning. There is rarelly anyone placed to shovel rebounds or pick a pass to the slot.
Do you think positioning solely comes from X's and O's? Or instinct? Finding an open spot comes from the offensive player IQ. Not strategy on a board.
 

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The question is this...to who the f*** will Demidov be on par with on this team so that they'd be able to follow his vision? Who scores on this team apart from Caufield?

Chances are if we don't add to it. we will think Demidov is a dud in the NHL 'cause he gets no point when he actually nobody will be able to complete his plays...

If only we could have drafted a talented scorer...but they are not available at the draft we pick....
Martone or Misa should be good goal scorers imo
 

Whitesnake

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The Habs definitely need to add some more skill.

But having Demidov with the likes of Caufield, Suzuki, Slaf, Dach, Laine (who will still have 1 more year left). Those are talented players. Dach might not look the greatest now, but he is coming back from being a year out with a really big injury. It will take time before he becomes the player we saw him becoming. But when he gets his game back, that's a talented player Demidov can play with.

Hopefully Hage doesn't take long to be with the Habs because this kid looks like he has the skill to keep up with Demidov. And I'm actually looking at someone like Mesar, who plays the game with pace and is off to a strong start in Laval.
I still have my reservations on Slaf. Real talent will be able to 1-time slap. Slaf have more talent passing than scoring despite his insane hard shot. But he's not precise. And he doesn't have the shot IQ to speed the process of it. The shot has hard as it is, if you wait too much you'll have a stick on you, the goalie will move to block it. to this day, he doesn't process it as a talented player does. Will he? That's the question. Or will he be a 25-goal garbage goalscorer. We still need that...but he won't be considered as pure talent because of it.

Martone or Misa should be good goal scorers imo
Hey Reinbacher is hurt....any chance we go needs and another RD? Logan Hensler is a RD...let's pick him No1.
 
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