Speculation: 2024/25 Trade Rumours, Speculation etc Thread

[Jet]

I'd love to have Provorov here but not at the cost of a 1st for 55-60 games this year.

I also wouldn't want an overt homophobe on my team. I doubt the Jets would consider it.

Also the first round pick haha

 

[WolfHouse]

I think centre depth on the Jets this year comes into question if Lambert can't play the role in reserve. How many looks does he get before he gets the much easier job of moving to the wing? I think Kupari could step up, but I'm not entirely convinced he would create a lot of offense. Realistically on the Jets Adam Lowry is the #2 centre in every sense. Gustafsson and Toninato as depth can win some regular season games as a 4c because they know the drill.

Vilardi is the other option but I think his style of play is better suited to the wing. I would also say that the combination of Vilardi and Perfetti is likely one of the slowest in terms of neutral ice skating.

From the outside it seems hard not to envision Yager as the future 2C, but he's trying to make a contending team and it may take him some time to get up to speed.

I think Dach would be better as a winger. I wonder about playing him with Lowry on that line, what that would like. Especially in the offensive zone. But at least he's a step ahead of Lambert in the development path, with more NHL experience playing center.

Connor-Scheif-Vilardi
Nino-Lowry-Dach
Ehlers-Namestnikov-Iafallo
Barron-Kupari-Appleton
Perfetti

Writing off lambert after two games haha...

Guy has taken less than 20 draws - i would look at sheltering him on 4th line for a bit though

 

[voyageur]

Writing off lambert after two games haha...

Guy has taken less than 20 draws - i would look at sheltering him on 4th line for a bit though

It didn't take very long for Perfetti to get written off as the 2C. Lambert's a better skater, but I can't imagine the leash will be too long.

 

[voyageur]

I don't think so. Trouba was overpaid at 8 mil. That situation always makes fans evaluate a player as garbage. It is just that he is poor value for the contract. That won't be an issue for Ducks. He won't have to wear a letter in Anaheim, just play.

Maybe Ducks retain 50% and flip him before the TD.



Sure. That has to be the plan.

Who will they go after?

What is their biggest need?

If I was Chevy with some Cap space, I'd definitely consider eating half the amount of half of Trouba's salary (or a quarter more precisely) for a 2nd round pick, if the Ducks wanted to send him back East, maybe to a Paul Maurice coached team. That would be a gift that keeps giving.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

If I was Chevy with some Cap space, I'd definitely consider eating half the amount of half of Trouba's salary (or a quarter more precisely) for a 2nd round pick, if the Ducks wanted to send him back East, maybe to a Paul Maurice coached team. That would be a gift that keeps giving.

There you go. If not Chevy, then some other GM takes a bite out of that cap. Anaheim takes a big bite and Trouba is now worth something in trade.

 

[Adam da bomb]

If I was Chevy with some Cap space, I'd definitely consider eating half the amount of half of Trouba's salary (or a quarter more precisely) for a 2nd round pick, if the Ducks wanted to send him back East, maybe to a Paul Maurice coached team. That would be a gift that keeps giving.

Chevy has never facilitated a trade like that as far as I know, because, why blow that kind of money for a second rd which will most likely mount to nothing.

 

[Flair Hay]

Chevy has never facilitated a trade like that as far as I know, because, why blow that kind of money for a second rd which will most likely mount to nothing.

Yeah the Jets haven't made a habit out of eating cash for micro advantages...

They only recently bit the bullet on Wheeler and Schmidt back to back years. Before that I think Stu was their only buyout for years and years?

 

[Wpgpage]

The Jets need every cent of both cap space and real dollars they are not eating any dead money.

 

[Heldig]

So, a RED WINGS blogger type claimed inside sources that Larkin has asked for a trade. So add his name to the likes of Brady Tkachuk, Josh Norris, Mika Zibanajed, Lawson Crouse and Trevor Zigras as players in the rumour mill.

Larkin has a NTC and has 6 years left at $8.7 but imagine a 1 - 2 -3 - 4 punch of Scheifele -Larkin - Lowry - Kupari

 

[gojetsgo]

So, a RED WINGS blogger type claimed inside sources that Larkin has asked for a trade. So add his name to the likes of Brady Tkachuk, Josh Norris, Mika Zibanajed, Lawson Crouse and Trevor Zigras as players in the rumour mill.

Larkin has a NTC and has 6 years left at $8.7 but imagine a 1 - 2 -3 - 4 punch of Scheifele -Larkin - Lowry - Kupari

it was some rando with 400 followers who named himself "redwings insider"

 

[Heldig]

it was some rando with 400 followers who named himself "redwings insider"

Not saying it was legit. Thought that was implied by the word "blogger".

 

[gojetsgo]

Not saying it was legit. Thought that was implied by the word "blogger".

not really implied when you say it should be added to the other names in the rumor mill

 

[Heldig]

not really implied when you say it should be added to the other names in the rumor mill

Wow, OK. Did not mean to insult your sensitivities.

Half the names in so-called rumours are made up. Heck, half the time names are being discussed on HF before actual insiders such as E Friedmann start discussing the same players (which has led to discussions that the insiders at least pay attention to HF).

So to be clear, I am not saying Larkin HAS asked for a trade. He has a NTC and would not waive to come to Winnipeg anyway.

It was merely wishful thinking / Sunday morning armchair GMing ("imagine").

Here's to a great game to kick off the home stand.

 

[AtomicJets]

 

[gojetsgo]

Wow, OK. Did not mean to insult your sensitivities.

Half the names in so-called rumours are made up. Heck, half the time names are being discussed on HF before actual insiders such as E Friedmann start discussing the same players (which has led to discussions that the insiders at least pay attention to HF).

So to be clear, I am not saying Larkin HAS asked for a trade. He has a NTC and would not waive to come to Winnipeg anyway.

It was merely wishful thinking / Sunday morning armchair GMing ("imagine").

Here's to a great game to kick off the home stand.

you didn't insult my sensitivities... it's just incredibly annoying when people take what random people off twitter say and act like it's an actual rumor, there is a reason why mods close threads from unreliable sources

by all means discuss players you think could be a good fit, nobody is stopping you, just don't post shit from random twitter users looking for attention...

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

When you are NYR 8 mil can get you better real quick

Now, in hindsight, they just blew it on their not elite goalie. He won the Vezina in 22 but that was his only 'elite' season, 93.5 sv%. Since then ... 91.6, 91.3 and 90.8 sv%

 

[DRW204]

The Jets really need another goal scorer perhaps one with a bit of bite on the second line. Even after Ehlers comes back. I don't care if it's Wing or Center tbh, but there's no finish on that line. If Brock Nelson can't be had from NYI, I'd settle with Palmieri (RW) who likely would cost less too

 

[Buffdog]

The Jets really need another goal scorer perhaps one with a bit of bite on the second line. Even after Ehlers comes back. I don't care if it's Wing or Center tbh, but there's no finish on that line. If Brock Nelson can't be had from NYI, I'd settle with Palmieri (RW) who likely would cost less too

And do what with Cole? Push him to the 4th line again?

If you're going to start bringing rentals in to upgrade his spot every elseason, you might as well dangle him out there as trade bait for a longterm solution somewhere

The other option that I think @Whileee touched on would be selling Ehlers for the 1st and B prospect and using that return to get a rental that replaces him who is better suited for playoff hockey - so in a way, we're just trading him for a rental and preserving our own first. In fact, if we do the rental deal forst, we could be upgrading our pick with a better one

 

[LowLefty]

And do what with Cole? Push him to the 4th line again?

If you're going to start bringing rentals in to upgrade his spot every elseason, you might as well dangle him out there as trade bait for a longterm solution somewhere

The other option that I think @Whileee touched on would be selling Ehlers for the 1st and B prospect and using that return to get a rental that replaces him who is better suited for playoff hockey - so in a way, we're just trading him for a rental and preserving our own first. In fact, if we do the rental deal forst, we could be upgrading our pick with a better one

Rome was built in a day - as they say
We'll need to hang in there and develop our centers - that's not the answer for the next game but it's the way this team needs to build.
The fact that we need a 2C is pretty obvious - but it doesn't mean that it can be fixed via a short cut - especially in this market.
We have a couple of guys that can one day fill that void - and I get that we are "win now" but that doesn't make it any easier to fill the holes.
It's a long game like it or not - keep playing Lambert and let him develop. I'd move Names down once Ehlers is back and see how Lambert and Ehlers can gel over a bunch of games. That doesn't solve the size issue on the line but it will be highly skilled with a couple of them still developing.

 

[Wpgpage]

Lambert has looked fine and Yager looks great in the W. I really don't think this team makes a move for a #2 C they will run this year out with Names and maybe Lambert depending on how the year goes.

The priority for this team has to be defense as has been plainly evident since Samberg went down they don't have the depth at all to survive an injury or poor preference. They need to try to add a top 4 guy preferably one with some term.

 

[voyageur]

Rome was built in a day - as they say
We'll need to hang in there and develop our centers - that's not the answer for the next game but it's the way this team needs to build.
The fact that we need a 2C is pretty obvious - but it doesn't mean that it can be fixed via a short cut - especially in this market.
We have a couple of guys that can one day fill that void - and I get that we are "win now" but that doesn't make it any easier to fill the holes.
It's a long game like it or not - keep playing Lambert and let him develop. I'd move Names down once Ehlers is back and see how Lambert and Ehlers can gel over a bunch of games. That doesn't solve the size issue on the line but it will be highly skilled with a couple of them still developing.

Do the Jets really need a 2C that badly?

I think Namestnikov is not scoring without Ehlers, but that just indicates that Ehlers drives plays and scoring. Namestnikov continues to put pucks into scoring areas for players who don't capitalize. Defensively I don't think he breaks down at all. I still like the way those 2 can skate into rush scoring chances.

If you hit the median of 45 points with Lowry, who is essentially the 2C matchup center, and Namestnikov, for a defensive identity team is that good enough? If you have a PPG top center?

The Jets look a lot different on home ice with Lowry taking those hard matchups, which gives the other two lines some better matchups. I think it's been 3 home games in 14, so you haven't seen that advantage in awhile. And last night's game was not the Jets best effort.

I wonder if De Melo is injured, and if he is, does that make the Jets biggest need a #1RD, to complement Morrissey. With Salomonsson injured the opportunity isn't there right now to give him a look, and he still has to grind out his first North American full schedule.

 

[DRW204]

Do the Jets really need a 2C that badly?

I think Namestnikov is not scoring without Ehlers, but that just indicates that Ehlers drives plays and scoring. Namestnikov continues to put pucks into scoring areas for players who don't capitalize. Defensively I don't think he breaks down at all. I still like the way those 2 can skate into rush scoring chances.

If you hit the median of 45 points with Lowry, who is essentially the 2C matchup center, and Namestnikov, for a defensive identity team is that good enough? If you have a PPG top center?

The Jets look a lot different on home ice with Lowry taking those hard matchups, which gives the other two lines some better matchups. I think it's been 3 home games in 14, so you haven't seen that advantage in awhile. And last night's game was not the Jets best effort.

I wonder if De Melo is injured, and if he is, does that make the Jets biggest need a #1RD, to complement Morrissey. With Salomonsson injured the opportunity isn't there right now to give him a look, and he still has to grind out his first North American full schedule.

names will never be a driver of offense and they really need someone else other than ehlers to help carry the load offensively in my view. names is good at clean up duty and support, but really isn't an offensive catalyst in my view.

they're not spreading out their good offensive players as the top line contains them all atm. the 2nd line hasn't scored a goal with lambert, and perfetti is not good enough offensively. i think it's usually easier (& hence less costly) to find a scoring winger than center as well at the TDL.

 

[Weezeric]

Do the Jets really need a 2C that badly?

I think Namestnikov is not scoring without Ehlers, but that just indicates that Ehlers drives plays and scoring. Namestnikov continues to put pucks into scoring areas for players who don't capitalize. Defensively I don't think he breaks down at all. I still like the way those 2 can skate into rush scoring chances.

If you hit the median of 45 points with Lowry, who is essentially the 2C matchup center, and Namestnikov, for a defensive identity team is that good enough? If you have a PPG top center?

The Jets look a lot different on home ice with Lowry taking those hard matchups, which gives the other two lines some better matchups. I think it's been 3 home games in 14, so you haven't seen that advantage in awhile. And last night's game was not the Jets best effort.

I wonder if De Melo is injured, and if he is, does that make the Jets biggest need a #1RD, to complement Morrissey. With Salomonsson injured the opportunity isn't there right now to give him a look, and he still has to grind out his first North American full schedule.

I wonder if the Jets end up acquiring Morrissey’s team Canada D partner…

 

[voyageur]

names will never be a driver of offense and they really need someone else other than ehlers to help carry the load offensively in my view. names is good at clean up duty and support, but really isn't an offensive catalyst in my view.

they're not spreading out their good offensive players as the top line contains them all atm. the 2nd line hasn't scored a goal with lambert, and perfetti is not good enough offensively. i think it's usually easier (& hence less costly) to find a scoring winger than center as well at the TDL.

I sure hope the Jets don't go hunting for another C at the deadline. Especially with a 1st round pick.

The Jets may be top line heavy, but Nino is still 2nd in ES goals, and I wonder if you ever upgraded on Appleton, if you don't have a bona fide 2nd line in every sense. Can we call Adam Lowry a 2C? Seems like he wins more matchups than loses. Appleton is the only one on that line who is not scoring at a top 6 rate, at least in goals, in points he has the same amount as Nino ES, and more than Perfetti and Namestnikov. I think that changes the narrative a bit from top 6 to bottom 6 if you have 3 lines that can score. 4th line can be exclusively defensive zone players, PKers. Which is probably where Apples would be if he wasn't the choice winger of Lowry, and the only other RH shot to choose from other than Vilardi at the position.

For me the easiest solution right now would be to reunite Ehlers-Namestnikov-Perfetti. Keep the Lowry line intact, but move Lambert into a 4RW position so he is available to give different looks in different scenarios, maybe spark a line, and have him and Fetts able to break the seams on the 2nd PP. Iafallo could step up into Barron's spot on the top PK. Namestnikov could move onto 2nd PK, and you have Apples and Connor, or Lowry again if you need a facceoff guy. for the 3rd unit Put Barron in the PB.

 

[LowLefty]

Do the Jets really need a 2C that badly?

I think Namestnikov is not scoring without Ehlers, but that just indicates that Ehlers drives plays and scoring. Namestnikov continues to put pucks into scoring areas for players who don't capitalize. Defensively I don't think he breaks down at all. I still like the way those 2 can skate into rush scoring chances.

If you hit the median of 45 points with Lowry, who is essentially the 2C matchup center, and Namestnikov, for a defensive identity team is that good enough? If you have a PPG top center?

The Jets look a lot different on home ice with Lowry taking those hard matchups, which gives the other two lines some better matchups. I think it's been 3 home games in 14, so you haven't seen that advantage in awhile. And last night's game was not the Jets best effort.

I wonder if De Melo is injured, and if he is, does that make the Jets biggest need a #1RD, to complement Morrissey. With Salomonsson injured the opportunity isn't there right now to give him a look, and he still has to grind out his first North American full schedule.

I think Names has done a nice job of filling in - but I don't see as the answer to our 2C needs.
Do we need we one that badly? No - my comment was more about giving up assets to get one that is usually temporary - I'd rather avoid that.
I do think we will need to fill that spot from within at some point and I'd have no issue with doing that sooner rather than later.