Speculation: 2024/25 Trade Rumours, Speculation etc Thread

[Flair Hay]

Rangers recover 8 mil in cap space but did not get any better.

When you are NYR 8 mil can get you better real quick

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Not even addition by subtraction?

I don't think so. Trouba was overpaid at 8 mil. That situation always makes fans evaluate a player as garbage. It is just that he is poor value for the contract. That won't be an issue for Ducks. He won't have to wear a letter in Anaheim, just play.

Maybe Ducks retain 50% and flip him before the TD.

When you are NYR 8 mil can get you better real quick

Sure. That has to be the plan.

Who will they go after?

What is their biggest need?

 

[Buffdog]

Rangers recover 8 mil in cap space but did not get any better.

Addition by subtraction?

Edit: @GeorgeJETson beat me to it lol

 

[Whileee]

Scheifele really needs a big physical nasty winger on his line. I like Vilardi, but he just doesn’t have the nastiness required. A Tom Wilson or Brady Tkachuk type would be just what the doctor ordered.

I know people like to hate on Wilson and the Tkachuk’s because they’re Tkachuk’s, but they’re exactly what this team needs. Wilson isn’t going anywhere and if Brady ever asks out there’ll be a bidding war. Teams like Dallas, New Jersey and Rangers would be all in.

Jets could certainly use another big, effective forward in their top 6. Ideally, it would be a big C to replace Namestnikov, but a winger like Tuch or Crouse would be great additions. The problem is that it probably means sending Perfetti down to the 4th line or even the press box, like last season. 4 of the Jets top 6 offensive F are on the small side and struggle in physical play along the boards and in the slot area of the offensive zone.

I'd like to see Kupari and/or Barron get a run at C with Perfetti and Ehlers. They offer a lot more speed and size and both are better at FO than Namestnikov.

 

[Flair Hay]

I don't think so. Trouba was overpaid at 8 mil. That situation always makes fans evaluate a player as garbage. It is just that he is poor value for the contract. That won't be an issue for Ducks. He won't have to wear a letter in Anaheim, just play.

Maybe Ducks retain 50% and flip him before the TD.



Sure. That has to be the plan.

Who will they go after?

What is their biggest need?

Rumours swirling around B Tkachuk

Jets could certainly use another big, effective forward in their top 6. Ideally, it would be a big C to replace Namestnikov, but a winger like Tuch or Crouse would be great additions. The problem is that it probably means sending Perfetti down to the 4th line or even the press box, like last season. 4 of the Jets top 6 offensive F are on the small side and struggle in physical play along the boards and in the slot area of the offensive zone.

I'd like to see Kupari and/or Barron get a run at C with Perfetti and Ehlers. They offer a lot more speed and size and both are better at FO than Namestnikov.

If we had to consider moving Perfetti for Tuch than I'm sure we all do that 10/10 times. Maybe Crouse too... less sold on him tho

 

[Heldig]

Rumours swirling around B Tkachuk


If we had to consider moving Perfetti for Tuch than I'm sure we all do that 10/10 times. Maybe Crouse too... less sold on him tho

Crouse does not have the offense. Would not want to trade Perfetti for him.

I would offer a LOT for Tkachuk but likely not the assets Ottawa will command:

Perfetti + 2025 1st + Stanley + Barlow/Lucius

 

[voyageur]

I don't think so. Trouba was overpaid at 8 mil. That situation always makes fans evaluate a player as garbage. It is just that he is poor value for the contract. That won't be an issue for Ducks. He won't have to wear a letter in Anaheim, just play.

Maybe Ducks retain 50% and flip him before the TD.



Sure. That has to be the plan.

Who will they go after?

What is their biggest need?

If the rumours about JT Miller wanting out of Vancouver are true you probably start there. Brady Tkachuk would be a different kind of captain. When do teams start to purge the Penguins? Or are they still trying to make the playoffs?

Trouba to Anaheim is good for the Ducks. You can look ahead of them and all of Vancouver, Calgary and Edmonton have some woes on defense, and a lot less depth.

Ducks have Trouba, Fowler, Gudas, Dumoulin as veteran defensemen with some good mileage, and some good prospects on defense and up front, I think that's a move to try to get past some of the teams ahead of them. They didn't move Zegras.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Rumours swirling around B Tkachuk


If we had to consider moving Perfetti for Tuch than I'm sure we all do that 10/10 times. Maybe Crouse too... less sold on him tho

I understand the need for more size at W in the top 6 but the real need is at C. Get some size there.

I'm not anxious to swap 23 YO for 28 YO either. Tuch is a big RHS winger having a good season and leading the Sabres in scoring. He is on an attractive contract. He will be expensive to acquire - if Buffalo is even willing to consider moving him. And he will be 29 by the end of the season. That is certainly not over the hill, but it is probably past his peak. Not to mention that he also has trade protection.

Are we ready to trade Perfetti and also lose Ehlers to FA?

I think that if we are trading Perfetti there had better be a still young 2C coming back.

 

[Heldig]

I understand the need for more size at W in the top 6 but the real need is at C. Get some size there.

I'm not anxious to swap 23 YO for 28 YO either. Tuch is a big RHS winger having a good season and leading the Sabres in scoring. He is on an attractive contract. He will be expensive to acquire - if Buffalo is even willing to consider moving him. And he will be 29 by the end of the season. That is certainly not over the hill, but it is probably past his peak. Not to mention that he also has trade protection.

Are we ready to trade Perfetti and also lose Ehlers to FA?

I think that if we are trading Perfetti there had better be a still young 2C coming back.

Dont see the Sabres trading Tuch. Local boy and all.

They may move on from one of there 3 top 4 LHD.

 

[Buffdog]

Kirby Dach is 6'4 centre who might be a buy-low/reclamation candidate

 

[DRW204]

Rumours swirling around B Tkachuk


If we had to consider moving Perfetti for Tuch than I'm sure we all do that 10/10 times. Maybe Crouse too... less sold on him tho

tuch and crouse are not really close to interchangeable here in terms of players or value. tuch clears crouse quite handedly. i wouldn't move perfetti for either tbh, but B. Tkachuk

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Dont see the Sabres trading Tuch. Local boy and all.

They may move on from one of there 3 top 4 LHD.

I never understood them trading Mittelstadt for Byram considering the LHD they already had.

Stanley for Byram! Git 'er done Chevy! OK, I'd add to that.

 

[voyageur]

Kirby Dach is 6'4 centre who might be a buy-low/reclamation candidate

He was I think one of the players who was supposed to be in the Dubois trade. I don't know how low you buy on him. Canadiens are using him as 2C, I don't think any 2C available, whether it be Nelson, Malkin, Granlund or Dach comes without a 1st or a good prospect. I'd take him for that late first if available because of term and I think the Jets are too soft on that 2nd line. But who comes out of the lineup? Barron? Perfetti?

I also think Canadiens fans and particularly their frenzied media would be up in arms if their GM traded Dach for futures. You can only lose so much in a major market before the changes come in the front office or in coaches.

 

[Buffdog]

He was I think one of the players who was supposed to be in the Dubois trade. I don't know how low you buy on him. Canadiens are using him as 2C, I don't think any 2C available, whether it be Nelson, Malkin, Granlund or Dach comes without a 1st or a good prospect. I'd take him for that late first if available because of term and I think the Jets are too soft on that 2nd line. But who comes out of the lineup? Barron? Perfetti?

I also think Canadiens fans and particularly their frenzied media would be up in arms if their GM traded Dach for futures. You can only lose so much in a major market before the changes come in the front office or in coaches.

I'm not against including a 1st for a player with term/team control that is a long term fix at 2C

I'd certainly have Barlow, Lucious, and Heinola on the table at this point also. Any D prospect not named Salomonsson (and maybe Freij? Not sure what we have there yet)

 

[Flair Hay]

I understand the need for more size at W in the top 6 but the real need is at C. Get some size there.

I'm not anxious to swap 23 YO for 28 YO either. Tuch is a big RHS winger having a good season and leading the Sabres in scoring. He is on an attractive contract. He will be expensive to acquire - if Buffalo is even willing to consider moving him. And he will be 29 by the end of the season. That is certainly not over the hill, but it is probably past his peak. Not to mention that he also has trade protection.

Are we ready to trade Perfetti and also lose Ehlers to FA?

I think that if we are trading Perfetti there had better be a still young 2C coming back.

I am not ready to lose Ehlers to FA regardless of what happens to Perfetti.

 

[voyageur]

I'm not against including a 1st for a player with term/team control that is a long term fix at 2C

I'd certainly have Barlow, Lucious, and Heinola on the table at this point also. Any D prospect not named Salomonsson (and maybe Freij? Not sure what we have there yet)

Other than Barlow I am not sure the other ones have any real value now. And it's not like the Jets to move prospects. They have to demand out like Mc Groarty, Roslovic or Nathan Smith. Basically you get as much development time as you need here, and if by d+6 you aren't contributing, then you might get waived or put in low level trades, like Petan, Harkins, or Gawanke. Which is where I think Heinola is at, with a little more rope because of injury.

I don't mind a move for Dach because Canadiens would have 3 1sts and they could do something reactionary with one of them, like acquire Marchessault. Such a poorly built team, I don't see them turning the corner anytime soon.

Jets definitely need a bigger body on that 2nd line, and I don't think Arny wants to move Nino up, because it throws off the balance.

 

[Flair Hay]

I'm not against including a 1st for a player with term/team control that is a long term fix at 2C

I'd certainly have Barlow, Lucious, and Heinola on the table at this point also. Any D prospect not named Salomonsson (and maybe Freij? Not sure what we have there yet)

If we are talking about dealing any of those three mentioned I'd be down for acquiring Dach. I'm not even sure I'd do late 1st for him at this point though. Not sure he is even better than Namestnikov. Maybe better in a better environment here, I don't know. But we did this song and dance last year with Monahan.

Having a guy with more size that is comparable is always better. Just depends on the cost to upgrade size if the production may be similar...

 

[voyageur]

If we are talking about dealing any of those three mentioned I'd be down for acquiring Dach. I'm not even sure I'd do late 1st for him at this point though. Not sure he is even better than Namestnikov. Maybe better in a better environment here, I don't know. But we did this song and dance last year with Monahan.

Having a guy with more size that is comparable is always better. Just depends on the cost to upgrade size if the production may be similar...

I think centre depth on the Jets this year comes into question if Lambert can't play the role in reserve. How many looks does he get before he gets the much easier job of moving to the wing? I think Kupari could step up, but I'm not entirely convinced he would create a lot of offense. Realistically on the Jets Adam Lowry is the #2 centre in every sense. Gustafsson and Toninato as depth can win some regular season games as a 4c because they know the drill.

Vilardi is the other option but I think his style of play is better suited to the wing. I would also say that the combination of Vilardi and Perfetti is likely one of the slowest in terms of neutral ice skating.

From the outside it seems hard not to envision Yager as the future 2C, but he's trying to make a contending team and it may take him some time to get up to speed.

I think Dach would be better as a winger. I wonder about playing him with Lowry on that line, what that would like. Especially in the offensive zone. But at least he's a step ahead of Lambert in the development path, with more NHL experience playing center.

Connor-Scheif-Vilardi
Nino-Lowry-Dach
Ehlers-Namestnikov-Iafallo
Barron-Kupari-Appleton
Perfetti

 

[Bob E]

I really think Kakko plays a style that would mesh with the Jets forecheck and board play in the ozone. He also can play C. He’s also a pretty good defensive player.

If you can just unlock the offensive game he had as a younger player, and playing with Scheif/Connor or Perfetti/Ehlers just might do it. He has 50+ point potential to me.

Connor-Scheif-Kakko
Perfetti-Vilardi-Ehlers

Or

Connor-Scheif-Vilardi
Perfetti-Kakko-Ehlers

Or

Connor-Scheif-Ehlers
Perfetti-Kakko-Vilardi

Or

Ehlers-Scheif-Vilardi
Connor-Kakko-Perfetti

Lots of options. But Jets need a player like Kakko with size and skill.

 

[Cnile]

i doubt TNSE would have provorov on this team

Why because he doesn’t support certain point of view?

 

[Flair Hay]

Why because he doesn’t support certain point of view?

I think that is the implication

 

[Bob E]

Wonder if there is a lot of jockeying for position and player movement at the deadline this year?

Got to think the Oilers will try to make moves to alter their roster for playoffs. Jets, Leafs and Vegas seem to be teams that recently always make moves. But the Wild might go all in this year. And the Rangers now have some cap space to play with.

Will be a very interesting spring.

 

[Channelcat]

Crouse does not have the offense. Would not want to trade Perfetti for him.

I would offer a LOT for Tkachuk but likely not the assets Ottawa will command:

Perfetti + 2025 1st + Stanley + Barlow/Lucius

How about Scheif, Ehlers signed, Barlow and a 1st. ?

 

[Heldig]

How about Scheif, Ehlers signed, Barlow and a 1st. ?

THBBFT!

 

[Channelcat]

THBBFT!

Ya, I wasn't being completely serious. Even if the valuation was fair, we can't afford to move a top center without getting one back.