Speculation: 2024/25 Trade Rumours, Speculation etc Thread

[Boxertim]

Wow, OK. Did not mean to insult your sensitivities.

Half the names in so-called rumours are made up. Heck, half the time names are being discussed on HF before actual insiders such as E Friedmann start discussing the same players (which has led to discussions that the insiders at least pay attention to HF).

So to be clear, I am not saying Larkin HAS asked for a trade. He has a NTC and would not waive to come to Winnipeg anyway.

It was merely wishful thinking / Sunday morning armchair GMing ("imagine").

Here's to a great game to kick off the home stand.

This is not a place for speculation. If it was, there would be the word SPECULATION in the title of the sub-forum.

 

[gojetsgo]

names is a good player to have that can fill in the top 6 while you have injuries but he really shouldn't be a mainstay

This is not a place for speculation. If it was, there would be the word SPECULATION in the title of the sub-forum.

soo I guess we should just take every random twitter users post seriously and allow them to be posted here...

 

[Boxertim]

names is a good player to have that can fill in the top 6 while you have injuries but he really shouldn't be a mainstay


soo I guess we should just take every random twitter users post seriously and allow them to be posted here...

Yes. Unless your last name is HFBOARDS…if it is, you get to choose what goes on here.

 

[gojetsgo]

Yes. Unless your last name is HFBOARDS…if it is, you get to choose what goes on here.

you realize that mods don't allow fake sources right?

 

[voyageur]

I think Names has done a nice job of filling in - but I don't see as the answer to our 2C needs.
Do we need we one that badly? No - my comment was more about giving up assets to get one that is usually temporary - I'd rather avoid that.
I do think we will need to fill that spot from within at some point and I'd have no issue with doing that sooner rather than later.

I really believe as long as Lowry is in a Jets uniform and the Jets can have home ice advantage in any playoff series that the need isn't that great. Because which top 6 player in the West can Lowry not match up against? Namestnikov is the 2C only in the sense he gets more offensive zone time, but he can keep pucks moving in the right direction with his skating and positioning in the middle of the ice. I don't think there is a replacement for him, but the more Lambert plays the more he can learn how to play in the NHL, and that experience doesn't necessarily have to come at C to begin. I do think we deserve to see Ehlers-Namestnikov-Lambert at some point during the season, to have a higher octane line to keep the pace up. At least to see if it is in fact a more sustainable option than with Perfetti in that spot. Before looking to the outside for help.

 

[LowLefty]

I really believe as long as Lowry is in a Jets uniform and the Jets can have home ice advantage in any playoff series that the need isn't that great. Because which top 6 player in the West can Lowry not match up against? Namestnikov is the 2C only in the sense he gets more offensive zone time, but he can keep pucks moving in the right direction with his skating and positioning in the middle of the ice. I don't think there is a replacement for him, but the more Lambert plays the more he can learn how to play in the NHL, and that experience doesn't necessarily have to come at C to begin. I do think we deserve to see Ehlers-Namestnikov-Lambert at some point during the season, to have a higher octane line to keep the pace up. At least to see if it is in fact a more sustainable option than with Perfetti in that spot. Before looking to the outside for help.

I'm fine with Names for now - but we absolutely need to be grooming our prospects to play center - we can't keep moving these guys to wing because there is not an immediate need. Lambert is the closest we've come in awhile to having a center in the prospect pool that this is close - so yes, I'd like to see an aggressive approach to getting him ready. They are playing him now so my hopes are up.

 

[Jet]

you realize that mods don't allow fake sources right?

Only if you are purporting something to be factual.

That rule kind of goes out the window in a thread that says rumor, speculation, etc.

That's how a guy like Eklund got mentioned on these boards ad nauseum for like 15 years.

 

[gojetsgo]

Only if you are purporting something to be factual.

That rule kind of goes out the window in a thread that says rumor, speculation, etc.

That's how a guy like Eklund got mentioned on these boards ad nauseum for like 15 years.

well when you say things like "let's add his name to the rumor mill" it kind of does make it seem factual, someone made a thread on the mainboards from the same "source" and the mods locked it right away

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Rome was built in a day - as they say
We'll need to hang in there and develop our centers - that's not the answer for the next game but it's the way this team needs to build.
The fact that we need a 2C is pretty obvious - but it doesn't mean that it can be fixed via a short cut - especially in this market.
We have a couple of guys that can one day fill that void - and I get that we are "win now" but that doesn't make it any easier to fill the holes.
It's a long game like it or not - keep playing Lambert and let him develop. I'd move Names down once Ehlers is back and see how Lambert and Ehlers can gel over a bunch of games. That doesn't solve the size issue on the line but it will be highly skilled with a couple of them still developing.

Mostly agree with this but I don't think Lambert is ready yet. He showed some skill and speed but he looked lost much of the time too. This 4 game trial will have been good for him. Now go back to the Moose and work on what he has learned. Patience.

Meantime, Names is still probably as good a solution as a rental and at a much better price. Now lets see how it goes with Chibs replacing Ehlers for a few games.

 

[scarbrow]

So, a RED WINGS blogger type claimed inside sources that Larkin has asked for a trade. So add his name to the likes of Brady Tkachuk, Josh Norris, Mika Zibanajed, Lawson Crouse and Trevor Zigras as players in the rumour mill.

Larkin has a NTC and has 6 years left at $8.7 but imagine a 1 - 2 -3 - 4 punch of Scheifele -Larkin - Lowry - Kupari

Fake rumor it's true but that's the kind of swing Jets should make. Go all in on the next 3-4years with Helley and Scheif and Connor in their prime. It'd cost you A LOT but term is worth it plus imagine the duos of Scheif- Vilardi and then Connor-Larkin. Lambert+1st+Heinola+Dinvincetis+Ehlers (Or the 1st+Prospect you'd get for Ehlers)

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Lambert has looked fine and Yager looks great in the W. I really don't think this team makes a move for a #2 C they will run this year out with Names and maybe Lambert depending on how the year goes.

The priority for this team has to be defense as has been plainly evident since Samberg went down they don't have the depth at all to survive an injury or poor preference. They need to try to add a top 4 guy preferably one with some term.

Well when they lose a top 4 guy obviously they want a top 4 replacement. Does any team have an actual top 4 Dman playing on the 3rd pair? What they need is a 3rd pair guy who is strong enough defensively to be able to move up when needed.

Actually, Fleury has been doing pretty well filling in there. A guy on a 2 way contract. The problem has been the insistence on playing Stanley. They were doing that when Samberg was playing as well, sitting Fleury so that Stan could play. Recently they have sat Miller and played the rookie on his off-side so that Stan could play. Last night they sat Heinola so that Stan could play. It has gone beyond ridiculous. And yes, I know that Stan wasn't too bad last night. He does that some times, especially against weaker teams.

They should have been playing Heinola on his strong side with Miller. Find out if Heinola is really up to the job. But ......... 6'7" y'know.

If the trade priority is a top 4 Dman who gets bumped out of the top 4? Not JMo, not Snerg. If we get a righty then it looks like DeMelo would be the odd man out right now. Bump him down to 3rd pair.

We are both stronger and deeper on the left side so a RHS Dman should be the priority.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

names is a good player to have that can fill in the top 6 while you have injuries but he really shouldn't be a mainstay


soo I guess we should just take every random twitter users post seriously and allow them to be posted here...

Yes we should allow them to be posted - just don't give them any status as anything other than random Twitter rumours.

 

[gojetsgo]

Yes we should allow them to be posted - just don't give them any status as anything other than random Twitter rumours.

I guess we should tell the mods on the mainboards they should unlock the threads from those type of posts then... like seriously why are people soo desperate to have people who just make up lies for clicks be posted here... it adds nothing to this forums and just derails threads

guess I should just start posting how I read from hockeyinsider420 heard that mcdavid will be unhappy if they don't win and won't extend with the oilers

 

[Jet]

I guess we should tell the mods on the mainboards they should unlock the threads from those type of posts then... like seriously why are people soo desperate to have people who just make up lies for clicks be posted here... it adds nothing to this forums and just derails threads

guess I should just start posting how I read from hockeyinsider420 heard that mcdavid will be unhappy if they don't win and won't extend with the oilers

The local forums run differently than the main board.

Seriously, if you have such a problem with it, just report it.

 

[gojetsgo]

The local forums run differently than the main board.

Seriously, if you have such a problem with it, just report it.

I've seen fake rumors get deleted from here..

pretty sure people come here to get legit information, I don't understand why it's soo wrong to point out that a nobody just looking for attention made something up and shouldn't be taken seriously, I guess I'll just stop coming to this thread if were going to start giving attention to pure bull shit rumors

 

[Buffdog]

I guess we should tell the mods on the mainboards they should unlock the threads from those type of posts then... like seriously why are people soo desperate to have people who just make up lies for clicks be posted here... it adds nothing to this forums and just derails threads

guess I should just start posting how I read from hockeyinsider420 heard that mcdavid will be unhappy if they don't win and won't extend with the oilers

If nothing else, it could open discussion around the potential value of the players being discussed

A thought experiment, if you will

A bunch of what actual "insiders" spew is just click bait speculation too

 

[gojetsgo]

If nothing else, it could open discussion around the potential value of the players being discussed

A thought experiment, if you will

A bunch of what actual "insiders" spew is just click bait speculation too

but they actually have a track record of getting things right, if you want actually discuss the players value just bring up that player and discuss them without bringing up a nobody making up lies

 

[Wpgpage]

Well when they lose a top 4 guy obviously they want a top 4 replacement. Does any team have an actual top 4 Dman playing on the 3rd pair? What they need is a 3rd pair guy who is strong enough defensively to be able to move up when needed.

At the start of the year no there probably are not many teams with legit top 4 guys on thier 3rd pair. After the TDL that obviously changes for some teams.

What I was meaning is that the Jets lack of actual top 4 D has been badly exposed without Samberg. Realistically right now with everyone healthy the Jets have 2 guys that you can count on top 4 level preformance from, Morrissey and Snerg. Demelo has been that before but he's not been that at all this year. Pionk has for years been a third pairing guy and we are seeing it again that without a strong partner he's lost out there (I say that as someone that really likes Pionk and would be fine with them resigning him for 6 ish mil). When you only have two and a half top four guys and one goes down you look real shaky real quick. Honestly I dont think it even matters what side they play just go get someone with talent and some term.

 

[Jet]

I've seen fake rumors get deleted from here..

pretty sure people come here to get legit information, I don't understand why it's soo wrong to point out that a nobody just looking for attention made something up and shouldn't be taken seriously, I guess I'll just stop coming to this thread if were going to start giving attention to pure bull shit rumors

Again, it depends on the way these things are presented.

For instance, if I said: "My cat seems to think the Jets are going hard after Parayko, I'd do it if we could get him for a2nd and a bag of catnip" that's allowed in a thread like this because it's a rumors and speculation thread.

However, if I said "my cat knows Chevys parrot and he told him Parayko is in the bag" that would not be allowed unless the poster could vet his source with the mods.

A lot of people including big names in hockey circles throw shit at the wall to see if it sticks.

Just like in real life, you need to check sources and decide for yourself if they're trustworthy.

You can certainly point out if you think a source is shit or don't agree, it happens all the time and it's part of the discussion.

You probably shouldn't come to this thread if you're looking for only legitimate news on player movement. This thread is meant to be a fun discussion about what could happen or what you might want to happen.

 

[macmaroon]

Again, it depends on the way these things are presented.

For instance, if I said: "My cat seems to think the Jets are going hard after Parayko, I'd do it if we could get him for a2nd and a bag of catnip" that's allowed in a thread like this because it's a rumors and speculation thread.

However, if I said "my cat knows Chevys parrot and he told him Parayko is in the bag" that would not be allowed unless the poster could vet his source with the mods.

A lot of people including big names in hockey circles throw shit at the wall to see if it sticks.

Just like in real life, you need to check sources and decide for yourself if they're trustworthy.

You can certainly point out if you think a source is shit or don't agree, it happens all the time and it's part of the discussion.

You probably shouldn't come to this thread if you're looking for only legitimate news on player movement. This thread is meant to be a fun discussion about what could happen or what you might want to happen.

Your cat sounds quite knowledgeable, certainly more legit than that Eklund guy...

 

[Adam da bomb]

Again, it depends on the way these things are presented.

For instance, if I said: "My cat seems to think the Jets are going hard after Parayko, I'd do it if we could get him for a2nd and a bag of catnip" that's allowed in a thread like this because it's a rumors and speculation thread.

However, if I said "my cat knows Chevys parrot and he told him Parayko is in the bag" that would not be allowed unless the poster could vet his source with the mods.

A lot of people including big names in hockey circles throw shit at the wall to see if it sticks.

Just like in real life, you need to check sources and decide for yourself if they're trustworthy.

You can certainly point out if you think a source is shit or don't agree, it happens all the time and it's part of the discussion.

You probably shouldn't come to this thread if you're looking for only legitimate news on player movement. This thread is meant to be a fun discussion about what could happen or what you might want to happen.

Does your cat have any other predictions? Who will win the superbowl perse?

 

[WolfHouse]

Ah yes, I remember when the deal was basically 'done' and Helle was going to New Jersey... the best thing about 'insiders' is that teams and agents willingly use them in the bargaining process - and then deny.

Bring on the sketchy sources I say!!!

This is not a place for speculation. If it was, there would be the word SPECULATION in the title of the sub-forum.

Is @Buffdog training you in the use of semantics?

 

[gojetsgo]

who knew that saying we shouldn't allow posts from random twitter users that make up lies for attention that' aren't even allowed on the main boards would have soooo much controversy... anyways I guess you guys can keep posting these rumors as legit and never have any actual idea of what's going on around the league

 

[BoneDocUK]

Your cat sounds quite knowledgeable, certainly more legit than that Eklund guy...

Absolut.

How can Jet'sCat not have a Trade Bait list on SubStack??!

In other news, whilst I agree with @Mortimer Snerd that Lambo may not be quite there as a regular in the top 6, I'm in the @LowLefty camp that thinks at least some of our drafted forward prospects should be groomed as centres and not immediately shunted to the wing because not vet enough.

Who was the last centre developed in-house? Lowry?

Who's the next one? Yager?

There needs to be a viable road map for drafting and developing centres that doesn't include trading top picks every year for rentals in the hope of magically filling that 2C spot left by Little years ago.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

I guess we should tell the mods on the mainboards they should unlock the threads from those type of posts then... like seriously why are people soo desperate to have people who just make up lies for clicks be posted here... it adds nothing to this forums and just derails threads

guess I should just start posting how I read from hockeyinsider420 heard that mcdavid will be unhappy if they don't win and won't extend with the oilers

The problem is when either they or the person reposting them pretend that it is inside information.

We get posts here from Aavco quite often. He is not an insider and doesn't pretend to be but often has interesting takes or information.