I'd love to have Provorov here but not at the cost of a 1st for 55-60 games this year.
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Yeah Provorov is solid but he doesn't feel like the type this team needs currently. He isn't the guy you bring in to anchor a 3rd pair in a PK/pure defensive role.
Should have just paid Dillon when we paid Nino, he is perfect for what we need in that spot
I'm not sure that is what he was talking about.
He would be excellent in the 2 LHD spot until Sammy got back. Also, he has played in MB for 2 seasons with the Wheat Kings.
You are correct. Meant to respond to your post.
Despite Samberg being injured and Provorov playing in Brandon, I don't see him as the shut down type of dman we seem to prefer for that slot. And need more if on the team.
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Provorov may not be a “pure shutdown “ defenseman, but his defending is still a hell of a lot better than Stanley’s and he better at everything else.
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To upgrade on Stan at 3LD shouldn't cost either. But we already have upgrades for 3LD.
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But he is way beyond a simple upgrade on Stanley. But Provorov would be a pure rental.
Agreed. I don’t see Chevy going the pure rental route until the TDL, if he feels we need an upgrade going into the stretch drive and playoffs.
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Yeah, apparently the simple upgrades we already have can’t solidify that spot over Stanley so the upgrade has to go beyond plain simple. Get a marginally better player and you run the risk that he gets the Miller treatment of last season and is stapled to the press box.
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I hope he avoids the pure rentals altogether.
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Or the Fleury/Heinola treatment so far this year.
Funny how Fleury wasn't good enough to play 3LD once Stan was back but he is the one to play 2LD when Snerg went down.
Garrett has written some stuff about Stanley:
Monday Review: It Is Time That Logan Stanley Experiment Ends
A Hohl lot of good information in that article!
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As long as Chevy doesn't trade a prospect or a 1st.
I don't think any trade is worth it right now, so might as well hold onto your more valuable assets.
I don't think any trade is worth it right now, so might as well hold onto your more valuable assets.
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To be fair Fleury is clearly not good enough for 2nd pairing
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Sure, but that's not the point. He was judged more suitable for elevation than Stanley and yet Stanley plays ahead of him when we are healthy.
Its like Stanley is cemented at 3LD. The other LD have to compete for the 2 remaining spots regardless of how good or how bad they may be. Its 1st or 2nd pair or the PB. 3rd pair left side is simply unavailable.
If, by some miracle Jets acquired a LHD better than JMo then JMo would play 2nd pair and Samberg would sit. Stan would still play.
OK, maybe that's a little extreme, but it is how it feels.
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If the free fall continues Ehlers becomes a trade chip?
I don't think Dillon would have signed to be a 3rd pairing d-men, and the Jets wanted Samberg in that top 4 spot. Probably with reason. Given that Samberg's next contract probably starts in the 5s with multiple 0s, that would be a lot of money to invest long term into the LD position after just getting out of all the money that was going to be invested on the right side of the defense. This year wouldn't have been the issue so much, though the Cap space might have knocked somebody out who is here.
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I'll throw this one out for lamb chops. If you got closer to the deadline and it looked like Ehlers was going to walk at the end of the season would you trade him to Montreal for Kirby Dach, who looks like he has found the wrath of losing in Montreal, but has that size to go to the net that I think Arniel likes. And go for the lower of Montreal's picks top 3 protected, with a chance to draft Roger Mc Queen?
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Why would MTL trade for Ehlers at the deadline?
They can just wait for him to hit UFA and sign him for free
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I think that's a team that is about to hit the panic button. Would give them the chance to have Laine finish the year strong and everything about Laine seems like mental confidence, so you get your team headed in the right direction. They could wait it out but that give other teams a chance to give a better offer, and not an 8 year one.Why would MTL trade for Ehlers at the deadline?
They can just wait for him to hit UFA and sign him for free
If you're Chevy you're betting on two horses, either Montreal or Calgary, to draft a player who wouldn't demand a trade.
And you have a later 1st round pick you can put on the table to make your next trade.
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