Rumor: 2022-2023 Trade Rumors and Free Agency (Mod Warning in OP)

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Oh no, I would LOVE that. Put Draisaitl, Kane, and McDavid on the ice and watch the chances against pile up. That could be a formidable power play however...but I don't know if Kane moves the needle that far to the point where I'd be worried.

Agreed. None of the 3 have any desire to play a 2 way game or responsible hockey in their own end.

It's all flashy, pad the stats offense with those guys. Which is why they will never win the Cup.
It works in the regular season but that's not the style of hockey that wins playoff games.
 
I fully expect CMac and Joe to go get Pat Kane if Naz is indeed gone. Get the Hawks to retain 50%, and another team to retain 25%, and you get a top-line, HOF RWer for $2.65M. If they include JTC in the deal, they would actually save about $875K in cap space in this case, which would leave them with $4.785M to add one or two more players that can play C, like say Paul Stastny and Evan Rodrigues, and then you can keep your D-core intact. It would also allow them to experiment with the 2C spot with a number of guys (Mikko, Hook, Staz, Rod, maybe even Landy) to see if they need to add a guy like JTM at the TDL (assuming he stays with the Nucks to start the season).

Landy/Mack/Kane
Nuke/Staz/Mikko
Lehk/Rod/Hook
Cogs/Helm/LOC
Malt

Toews/Makar
G/Manson
Bo/EJ
Dermy

George
Frank
 
If any of the big fish fail (Kane/Miller/Scheifele) I'm warming up to the idea of signing Stastny, though I would kick tires on Rodrigues.

We have the capspace to sign him cheap, he's a 3C that can spot-fill at 2C. At the deadline we can still trade JTC+ for a legit 2C option that's available (Toews?) that's more of a longer term fix. Staz is a fine #3C on this team if we give him guys like Newhook & LOC. Leaves Helm- Meyers - Cogs for the 4th line with Sedlak, Ranta, Kaut and Maltsev all competing for spots
 
Kane would be absolutely awesome. I dont think it'll happen until the deadline though, whether its us or someone else. I think it'll be another Giroux situation where Kane will pretty much get to pick exactly where he wants to go and the Hawks will get a 1st + B/C level prospect but a pretty underwhelming return ultimately.

The Avs will be a fun deadline team this year. Since we actually have a 2023 1st round pick this time around we can be players for the very best UFA forwards. That's the one thing I like about the Georgiev trade is we didn't give up such top tier assets to get him unlike when we added Kuemper.


Add a guy like Stastny for the 2C spot and then spend the first 5 months of the season evaluating what the 2023 1st round pick needs to be spent on. Defense, unless something very unfortunate happens should be set for the year at this point. So we'll find out if Stastny as 2C is good enough or do they need JT Miller, or can they target an elite player like Kane instead... Or perhaps Georgiev really does suck and unfortunately they need to spend on Goaltending still. This team is still good enough that even without that certainty at 2C, they should easily be top 2 in our division if not running away with the division title again. Gives them time to figure out the biggest area of weakness and how best to address it.
 
It isn't 2005 anymore where a players prime was from 25-29 years. Guys are coming into the league at higher snd higher levels and are peaking younger and younger. 22-26 is pretty much the prime range at this point and it isn't uncommon at all for good young players to enter the league at peaky level.

That wasn't a player's prime back in 2005 either.
 
LA is one of those teams that was decently good last year with some injuries in the playoffs.

They’re also one of the teams with a good chunk of very good prospects. It’s sometimes very hard to judge how the jumps and gains can be. Add Kane on top of that?

Think of where they were last year, pushing Edmonton to 7. Then add Fiala, a healthy Doughty and Kane. Improvements to By field, Vilardi, etc. They could definitely be a threat.

Bah, I don't think the Kings were all that. Quick somehow found his game and played relatively well (whereas Petersen didn't, great contract there, Blake) and they got decent returns on some older players, but I'm not convinced their "rebuild" is on track at all. They had to go out and get Danault because the veterans finally got sick of waiting around.

And they've been waiting for years for Vilardi to show up. Now that injuries don't appear to be an issue, he hasn't exactly been lighting it up. The only guys who seem to be young and playing to their potential are guys like Kempe and Iafallo, and none of them really scare me any.

And it's super-early but I got a bad feeling about Byfield. I would LIKE to see him succeed for various reasons, but so far, not so good. And they've already whiffed badly a few times at the draft (i.e., Turcotte).

If THAT team adds Kane I'll be thrilled. An aging, one-dimensional star added to a bunch of other aging stars and they'll likely have to sacrifice a good prospect and/or pick in order to get him. I would LOVE that.
 
I can't ever tell if people are being sarcastic or not.
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It's when I'm on vacation that the big trades and news happen. I remember scrambling for news on the Lindros trade.

I'm starting my vacations today. You can all thank me later.

Can't believe it's August and Kadri doesn't have a deal yet.:laugh:
 
It's when I'm on vacation that the big trades and news happen. I remember scrambling for news on the Lindros trade.

I'm starting my vacations today. You can all thank me later.

Can't believe it's August and Kadri doesn't have a deal yet.:laugh:
He most likely does. Just not announced.
 
Yes. Wouldn't be the first time a top prospect entered the NHL at a high level and never developed any higher. Wouldn't be the first time and won't be the last either. The prime years for a player continues to trend younger and younger.

It isn't 2005 anymore where a players prime was from 25-29 years. Guys are coming into the league at higher snd higher levels and are peaking younger and younger. 22-26 is pretty much the prime range at this point and it isn't uncommon at all for good young players to enter the league at peaky level.

I don't disagree with those ages. All tho I do think there is alot of exceptions to the rule and it's hardly a concrete fact even if its the averages. I also think better players differ than your average NHLers. The top 15 in scoring in terms of ages was 25, 29, 28, 26, 25, 24, 32, 24, 25, 30, 32, 25, 25, 33, 29. For defensemen it was 32, 23, 31, 24, 32, 22, 35, 28, 26, 28, 24, 37, 22, 26, 26. 27.4 years old being the average for the top 15 in scoring. 27.7 being the average for defensemen.

Byram peaking at 49 regular season NHL games would be pretty wild. I'm sure it's happened but it's gotta be pretty rare. Going off memory Steve Mason? Tyler Meyers had a monster rookie year and I'd say that was his peak. Svatos but that's more injuries. Guess you could say Selanne's insane rookie year if you wanted too.
 
I fully expect CMac and Joe to go get Pat Kane if Naz is indeed gone. Get the Hawks to retain 50%, and another team to retain 25%, and you get a top-line, HOF RWer for $2.65M. If they include JTC in the deal, they would actually save about $875K in cap space in this case, which would leave them with $4.785M to add one or two more players that can play C, like say Paul Stastny and Evan Rodrigues, and then you can keep your D-core intact. It would also allow them to experiment with the 2C spot with a number of guys (Mikko, Hook, Staz, Rod, maybe even Landy) to see if they need to add a guy like JTM at the TDL (assuming he stays with the Nucks to start the season).

Landy/Mack/Kane
Nuke/Staz/Mikko
Lehk/Rod/Hook
Cogs/Helm/LOC
Malt

Toews/Makar
G/Manson
Bo/EJ
Dermy

George
Frank
I'm skeptical that we would be in on Patrick Kane unless it's at the trade deadline and we have banked enough cap space to be comfortable and it's clear that he's the best option available for what the team needs. Last TDL, we could have blown everything on Giroux, but instead we added Lehkonen, Manson, and Cogliano (and swapped Jost's salary for Sturm's). I don't see this front office blowing all of our cap flexibility for absorbing bonuses and TDL maneuvers acquiring an aging Patrick Kane in the off-season.

Speaking of bonuses, if Byram has a monster year, he could be owed $2,500,000 in bonuses, which would count against our cap next year as overages if we go over this year. Assuming Byram stays healthy, I think there's a very good chance that he'll hit all of his "Schedule A" bonuses, which means I think there is a good chance that the Avs front office has Byram penciled in at $1.65M cap hit this year ($900k + $850k Schudule A bonuses), effectively reducing our current cap space to $2.9M. Depending on the amount of ice time Newhook gets (or if there are injuries in the top 6, etc.), he could hit a couple of his Schedule A bonuses too.

If we think that Byram's internal caphit figure is $1.65M, then we currently have a 21-man roster (with Myers and Sedlak in the forward group and MacDermid the only extra to cover both F and D) with only $2.9M of cap space. Adding a dedicated extra forward for a 22-man roster (whether Maltsev, another prospect, or free agent acquisition close to league minimum), puts us at $2M cap space. Obviously, if we sign a free agent for $2M or $3M for that 22nd roster slot, that's an extra $1M or $2M against the cap, and then there's a risk that a Schedule B bonus for Byram or any Schedule A bonuses for Newhook or Myers would count against next year's cap.

And, of course, if we decide to go with a 23-man roster because we're worried about losing some of our depth to waivers, then we're pretty much out of space for any acquisition unless there is money-in, money-out.

To me, this means that Kadri is probably not feasible unless we dump EJ's or Girard's salary without taking back more than $1-1.5M in NHL salary back.
 
Daily hot take from my favourite poster. Peaked Byram, Nate past his prime years.. teams going to be dismantled in the next 3 years. It’s nothing but red hot takes from that man.

Man, you are verging on obsession with Pierce. It's getting creepy.

Saying Nate's contract is not going to age well is not a hot take. Saying a players prime is mid twenties, is not a hot take.
 
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