Cant believe mlse fell for that snake oil salesman as a Prez...we wont ever win with him at the helm. Chelios & others were bang on the type of me me me person he is. Leafs are going nowhere...what a joke we've become.
William Nylanders Next contract
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I'm just saying, Mariner's next contract should be eleven. because Dubis gave him a pretty big. overpayment on the last one.
notDatsyuk
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On the PP yes, but at even strength it's more a matter of JT benefitting from playing with him.
If they trade Willy, who's going to prop up JT? Drop Mitch down, or find someone else?
thewave
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I agree and the top snake hired a little snake who now slithered away. This one will do the same.
Trapper
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If you were looking at the double digit brothers for the last 5 years with the lowest salary, would you be taking less?
Would you be starting a demand with 8?
No thanks.
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Report: Nylander's extension price higher than Leafs want
William Nylander's desired price on a potential contract extension is currently higher than what the Toronto Maple Leafs are willing to pay, The Athletic's Pierre LeBrun reports.There is a "sizeable gap" between the two sides at the moment, LeBrun adds. Nylander is eligible to sign an extension...
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There is a "sizeable gap" between the two sides at the moment, LeBrun adds.
Ok Michael.... error.... I mean Willie
stickty111
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At this point, this is a Shanny problem. They clearly choose favorites and Willy is not one of them.Report: Nylander's extension price higher than Leafs want
William Nylander's desired price on a potential contract extension is currently higher than what the Toronto Maple Leafs are willing to pay, The Athletic's Pierre LeBrun reports.There is a "sizeable gap" between the two sides at the moment, LeBrun adds. Nylander is eligible to sign an extension...
There is a "sizeable gap" between the two sides at the moment, LeBrun adds.
Ok Michael.... error.... I mean Willie
WildWolfdog
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Agreed @ trading the bigger pieces if they're all demanding the most they can get. And this is coming from a huge Willy + Matthews fan, and less so with Marner.
That being said, I don't think you can trade 2 of the 3 if you're planning to win or have a strategy. Trade 1 of the 3 (and let Tavares contract run out) or you trade all 3 if you're looking at moving 2 - because it will likely not be a competitive team and the remaining player from the trio will just sulk his way out.
That being said, the Leafs need change and it doesn't look like it's going to happen under BT - at least not right now.
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In 2017 I was excited.
Seeing MNM come into the league and do so well had me seeing visions of Stanley in the near future.
That all changed once Nylander held out for max money. Maybe that's where the disgust starts. That and the fact he made $12M to score 7 goals in 54 games on his return.
Now looking for even an even bigger payday.
Just once after another poor showing I'd really like to hear Keefe say something like this when asked what Nylander brings to the team each night: "Nothing! He brings nothing to the table! Ok? Truth is I wanted to get rid of this lazy turd years ago, but my idiot GM promised not to trade him".
Who does that anyway?
Who gives the longest holdout in modern day history a verbal promise not to be traded, and then actually keeps the promise?
Thank god Treliving is under no such obligation. Regardless if Nylander signs an extension or not. There is nothing preventing Treliving from signing Nylander and then trading him sometime this year afterwards.
If that happened, the only way I could be more excited is if they actually won the cup.
Seeing MNM come into the league and do so well had me seeing visions of Stanley in the near future.
That all changed once Nylander held out for max money. Maybe that's where the disgust starts. That and the fact he made $12M to score 7 goals in 54 games on his return.
Now looking for even an even bigger payday.
Just once after another poor showing I'd really like to hear Keefe say something like this when asked what Nylander brings to the team each night: "Nothing! He brings nothing to the table! Ok? Truth is I wanted to get rid of this lazy turd years ago, but my idiot GM promised not to trade him".
Who does that anyway?
Who gives the longest holdout in modern day history a verbal promise not to be traded, and then actually keeps the promise?
Thank god Treliving is under no such obligation. Regardless if Nylander signs an extension or not. There is nothing preventing Treliving from signing Nylander and then trading him sometime this year afterwards.
If that happened, the only way I could be more excited is if they actually won the cup.
613Leafer
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I think you need to have a line in the sand. I agree that ideally we don't trade 2+ of these guys, but we also can't just give them anything they want.
Let's say the contract demands are (Matthews/Marner wanting the shorter contracts due to age and that they're less likely to have just come off a career year):
- Matthews 4 years X 14M
- Nylander 8 years X 10M
- Marner 4 years X 13M
Can we win if we sign those? Can we win if we sign two of those and trade just one of them? Matthews and Marner after their 4 years would obviously be looking for big raises again.
So I think we just need to be willing to trade any of these guys, if the contract demands are too absurd. Maybe that triggers a heavy retool/rebuild, but the alternative isn't great either. You need to think about the overall team culture those types of contracts create too, and not just the cap headaches they create.
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TheBeastCoast
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So we trade him to Detroit and you and your fanbase is completely happy with that contract?
Ulysses31
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Different situation given standards set by othet contracts on leafs, on drw 8.5 aav would be more reasonable
TheBeastCoast
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Sounds like bs to me. It is either a good contract or it isn't. If you think 11x8 is "fair" then I would assume you would be happy with that contract on your team.
BallardEra
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Think it would have already been done by now if his side was good with that price.
Even sadder state of affairs is Bettman recommended Shanny to Leafs .. Bettman has ZERO interest in a Canadian team winning/or get close to winning Stanley .. Shanny is a C level high school student with no experience running anything of substance .. now he is a great hockey player and as tough and loyal as they come .. he hears what Bettman and Larry say/recommend and he follows suit to keep his gig .. Tree, like Dubie, are not hockey people .. Bell/Rogers are making a ton of $$$ on this team and are perfectly content .. you only ever get meaningful change when someone comes in a rocks da boat and imposes their will over team wrt winning playoff rounds .. and then when team does not win changes must again be made to effect a winning culture .. this is not and has not occurred here .. and I don't see any visibility to winning going forward
AustonMarner
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I'll bet anyone here Nylander gets ***and deserves*** between 9 - 10 million PERIOD
and will be underpaid by the 2nd ~3rd year of the contract just like he is on current one (6.9 million)
It's like deja vu all over again with you people, don't Leafs fans ever learn?
lol Nylander is Elite, one of the best in the game! Zone entry, possession keeping, ultra versatile, ever improving 1st line winger...
AHO contract = Nylander template
Sounds like Matthews is done, hope Treliving just gets Nylander done quick so every Leafs can take a breathe
Crosscrease14
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8.88 is the market rate with the Meier deal. 9.088 is probably the absolute max.
9.5+ is a non-starter and he's Willy stylin' out of T.O.
9.5+ is a non-starter and he's Willy stylin' out of T.O.
Crosscrease14
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Aho had Selke nominations. Nylander couldn't be further from the Selke and isn't a C. It's not comparable at all imo
cannucky
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Your right Nylander is no comparson to Mier , Mier plays like he has a pair and they have hair , Nylander not so much , to understate the obvious . If this team is going to spend every penny of the next 2 seasons cap increase on 2 players they will accomplish nothing more than wasting 2 more seasons other than running out JT's contract .
