William Nylanders Next contract

[nuck]

Answer the question....are you capable of doing that? OR do you just exist to present the most elementary answers?

Expecting players to take the same AAV as comparative players that play in tax-haven states is so ridiculous. Every time I come back to this site you're always talking crazy.

I get where you are coming from but the cost to the club is the same no matter where they are. If the tax haven job is available a player can go for it, but if there isn't such an opening why does the club need to make themselves into the same kind of landing spot? What happens after you write the cheque isn't your problem.

A player will obviously prefer it but the team doesn't have to offer that. If you lose that player over a few hundred K then you have lost them. You have to balance that against having millions less to fill out your lineup. If you do that once to steal away a teams best player who becomes your best player, you can certainly make a business case. To do that any time an expensive talent asks is just going to hurt the team because Willie isn't 14% more productive than someone making the same gross salary in Florida.

To do that for all your players which would be the fair way, leaves you down $10M in available cap. The Leafs can't afford to match with other tax jurisdictions for Willie. They already have to do that with Mitch and AM and those two aren't tradeable now.

 

[notDatsyuk]

I'd replace a 40 goal Nylander with two 20 goal wingers who are hard to play against, nasty and will go into the corners in a second.
This team needs more scoring by depth, not proven playoff chokers. Mind you, Nylander has fared best out the C4, but he's still been underwhelming as a whole and not built for playoff hockey.

Therein lies the problem - he's the closest of the four to being a playoff performer.

Why trade him first?

 

[PeteBestondrums]

Therein lies the problem - he's the closest of the four to being a playoff performer.

Why trade him first?

Well, you can't trade Tavares with his NMC. Matthews is too valuable as a #1C and is a better player overall when healthy.
I'd be up for trading Marner as well but realize he offers up more than Nylander who, let's face it, is pretty one- dimensional and takes nights off.
Nylander is the logical choice to go.

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

Happy medium seems to be a number that starts with 9. Come on Leafs, Nylander, compromise already.

 

[MasterMatt25]

Unless Nylander lowers his ask, I don't think it'll work out.

It sucks because he's criminally underrated due to the spotlight on Matthews/Marner. He's an elite offensive force and always shows up in the playoffs.

 

[BrannigansLaw]

I love Willy. He’s my favorite from the core I think at this point. At 10 million though you have to trade him

 

[trellaine201]

I love Willy. He’s my favorite from the core I think at this point. At 10 million though you have to trade him

I cringe at your photo, sorry.

 

[JKG33]

Between the Leafs being over the cap thanks to their $5m AHL goalie, and the group entitlement for overpaid contracts, Kyle Dubas really is the gift that keeps on giving

 

[TheBeastCoast]

I would be willing to go like 8.5 maybe a bit north of that. If he really truly thinks he is a 10 million dollar a year player, let him go find out if he is somewhere else.

 

[BrannigansLaw]

I cringe at your photo, sorry.

I need to change it but I’m lazy lol

 

[Gabriel426]

Am I the only one that is glad that BT is not bending over to Willie and possibly AM too, although he did bend over to Kampf.

 

[Nineteen67]

He’s going to ask the Leafs for 10 million because he can.

If he can’t it get now he can always get a reasonable contract anywhere next July.

Same thing if they try and trade him.

The Leafs should let him negotiate with two teams on his list that can offer the best return for next 24 hours, after that, trade him as is.

Eliminate that headache this week.

 

[Gary Nylund]

Well, you can't trade Tavares with his NMC. Matthews is too valuable as a #1C and is a better player overall when healthy.
I'd be up for trading Marner as well but realize he offers up more than Nylander who, let's face it, is pretty one- dimensional and takes nights off.
Nylander is the logical choice to go.

If Marner and Nylander had the same cap hit, then sure it would be that simple. However ...

 

[stickty111]

The most I do is 9.5 for Nylander otherwise I look to move him

 

[Phion Keneuf]

Nylander $9.5M
Marner $11.5M
Matthews $13.5M

 

[KPower]

5 years at $9 million per is the max I would do.

Don’t want him for 8 years.

 

[stickty111]

Happy medium seems to be a number that starts with 9. Come on Leafs, Nylander, compromise already.

A 2 million gap is hardly too much. The player is starting at the highest point, and the GM at the minimum point which is how it should be. Both sides should give in with time. There is no need to over react. If in a month or two it stays the same then you start thinking about something else, but it's not a big deal. Treliving shouldn't make rash decisions either way.

 

[tuckerintensity]

I'd love to get Nylander for 8, pretty much every team in the league would... because it's a million and a bit lower than he should get.

 

[Menzinger]

Happy medium seems to be a number that starts with 9. Come on Leafs, Nylander, compromise already.

A 9x8 essentially puts the same $ amount in his bank as a 10/7.

Seems there's room for a compromise. even an 8.5-8.9x8 deal with bonus structuring could potentially be more attractive than a 10x7 deal

 

[mcleafs]

Even if he took 8x8, trade him. Sometimes things fall a certain way and someone has to go, and that’s Willy right now.

We CANNOT start the year with him on the roster.

 

[Gaberd2608]

If Timo Meier is 8 x $8.8 how does Nylande get to $10+ and no doubt less term.

If Nylander wants to sign for 8 years the number is somewhere between $9.4 and $9.6.

He needs to worry about himself and nevermind what Matthews gets. If he wants $10 he may find out the grass isnt greener and worth it just for an extra $500,000.

 

[Stephen]

Unless Nylander lowers his ask, I don't think it'll work out.

It sucks because he's criminally underrated due to the spotlight on Matthews/Marner. He's an elite offensive force and always shows up in the playoffs.

Relax. He's moderately underpaid on an amortized contract that he's managed to outgrow like so many other guys in the NHL. Boo hoo, as if it's every Leaf players birthright to be on the cutting edge of salaries, always and forever...

 

[BallardEra]

 

[mapleleaf979]

Nylander is worth 8 million. He might be worth 10 million if he didnt disappear for 20 games a year or didnt have chemistry issues with his linemates. Nylander is a very hard player to play with, he does not have chemistry with Matthews, Tavares or previously Kadri, Bozak. I prefer Bertuzzi over Nylander, very easy choice to move him now.

 

[daveleaf]

This signing will easily be Treliving's biggest challenge and I have a feeling this will spell the end of Nylander here.

I think you are right here. He held out until the end last time, I don't see that appetite for allowing that again.