Who would you rather? Danault vs Domi

[WeThreeKings]

Do you believe anybody will pay Danault as a top 6 C with the salary cap plateauing?

Yes.

There are plenty of teams weak down the middle who will not look deep enough into why he has the offensive production that he does.

 

[tinyzombies]

We lack both scoring and defensive players in our top 9, so we need both or have to replace both. We also lack size, so losing Danault would hurt as he is a half-decent sized body and strong at201. But to have Suzuki and Danault as two centers who could play defense is a must if we want to do anything. Domi should be on the wing - total mystery why he isn't. If he refuses he has to be moved.

 

[malton]

Yes.

There are plenty of teams weak down the middle who will not look deep enough into why he has the offensive production that he does.

I don't see it happening, but i guess i wouldn't be shocked.

 

[CristianoRonaldo]

Princess Danault ? He's no PK subban, he'll take a fair cut and think team first. Him saying he could still improve offensively and that he didn't see himself as a dedicated 3rd C really left some scars around here. fun to see all the drama queens go bananas.

sanity has left the building.

What ? Subban got bridged by MB, when he asked for around 6M/year, a fair contract for a #1D. Subban was better than MB expected and Molson had to pay the man. MB is to blame for this one, not Subban.

Danault will think, "team first" ? That's why he asked to play with Tatar and Gallagher and on the top-6 or it will affect his next signature with us...

 

[peate]

Danault will think, "team first" ? That's why he asked to play with Tatar and Gallagher and on the top-6 or it will affect his next signature with us...

They all belong on the third line on a good team.

 

[CristianoRonaldo]

They all belong on the third line on a good team.

Tatar and Gally on the 2nd line is pretty good.

The problems are:

Gally and Tatar are our two best wingers, by far.

I have no faith in MB signing/trading for two good wingers this summer, let alone three. Knowing that Domi will probably be traded, he can't be an option.

If Tatar and Gallagher play with Danault, Suzuki and Kotkaniemi will have to play with Armia, Byron, Lehkonen and Drouin. Drouin is the only one who is good offensively when he's not inconsistent.

Armia, Byron and Lehkonen are bottom-6er, if we want Suzuki and Kotkaniemi to develop their offensive talent and maximize it, we need to play them with good offensive players.

 

[TopTenPlayz]

Tatar and Gally on the 2nd line is pretty good.

The problems are:

Gally and Tatar are our two best wingers, by far.

I have no faith in MB signing/trading for two good wingers this summer, let alone three. Knowing that Domi will probably be traded, he can't be an option.

If Tatar and Gallagher play with Danault, Suzuki and Kotkaniemi will have to play with Armia, Byron, Lehkonen and Drouin. Drouin is the only one who is good offensively when he's not inconsistent.

Armia, Byron and Lehkonen are bottom-6, if we want Suzuki and Kotkaniemi to develop their offensive talent and maximize it, we need to play them with good offensive players.

It makes me want to puke every time I'm reminded that our best wingers and current forwards are Tatar and Gallagher (no disrespect against either player). That's the sad reality of this team.

 

[Pappazzz]

It makes me want to puke every time I'm reminded that our best wingers and current forwards are Tatar and Gallagher (no disrespect against either player). That's the sad reality of this team.

yup, our best winger is a player no other team wanted at the time, and couldn't even make the starting lineup in vegas,

this team is built from other teams spare parts and rejects,

players no other teams want are always welcome here, and can make the starting lineup, Kovy is a perfect example

 

[Runner77]

It is not a much better question because it reduces it to two diametrically opposed scenarios where one ridiculous one makes one less ridiculous one look like a reasonable answer. There's a variety of levels where Danault could be paid but, the 7M range some suggest as his asking price -- especially given the flat cap -- is plain stupid.

Here we go again.

The range for Danault as a first line center would put him anywhere between 6-7M, as a conservative estimate. Alexandre Pratt of LaPresse has looked at what his salary might look like and he claims as a first line center, the market would reflect a salary in the range of 6.5 to 7.5M. He obviously wouldn't get that if he were playing as a third liner.



If you want to point a finger at the "ridiculous", you only need to look at Danault and what he stated. There is no "variety" of scenarios where a first line center would be likely to get below 6M, flat cap or no flat cap. Always at the ready with flattering qualifiers, aren't you? "Plain stupid", huh? Nice.

 

[BergevinBurner]

I'd keep Danault over Domi 100%.
I like the idea of running Danault/KK as our 2C and 3C more than Domi/KK.

Hopefully we can replace his production in a trade by getting back a quality winger, but there's no winger that would replace Danault's defensive play.

 

[ArtPeur]

Here we go again.

The range for Danault as a first line center would put him anywhere between 6-7M, as a conservative estimaate. Alexandre Pratt of LaPresse has looked at what his salary might look like and he claims as a first line center, the market would reflect a salary in the range of 6.5 to 7.5M. He obviously wouldn't get that if he were playing as a third liner.



If you want to point a finger at the "ridiculous", you only need to look at Danault and what he stated. There is no "variety" of scenarios where a first line center would be likely to get below 6M, flat cap or no flat cap. Always at the ready with flattering qualifiers, aren't you? "Plain stupid", huh? Nice.

No one is going to give him over 6M$. NO ONE. I can't even think of a team that would play him at #1. Maybe Anaheim as I don't know anyone who's about to come out on the top lines once Getzlaf and Kesler retire (and as they're getting much older)

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Trade both and acquire Brandon Sutter for a 3rd.

 

[CHfan1]

Not sure what your point is with the cap. Its not going down? If Hayes can get 7M Danault certainly can too.

I know Radulov had 2 better seasons. Did you even read my post? I said i was worried about him long term. I was fine with 2-3yr contract, beyond that i was less sure at a high cap hit. And his offense this past season dipped significantly.

The one difference between a player like Hayes and upcoming UFA’s like Danault. Is Hayes got that contract in a world where the cap was going to rise over the life of the contract and therefore Hayes’ contract would be worth less compared to the cap at the end. From 2013-2014 to 2019-2020 the cap went from $64.3 million to $81.5 or a rise of 26.7%. If that same rate continued the cap would have been $103.3 million in 2025-2026 making that $7 million a lot easier to take. Now we know it will be a lot less and a lot less teams actually have money they can spend.

So we’ll see how much that effects the next contract for those players. With that in mind I don’t think Danault is worth $7 million, especially over 7 years. If he gets it from another team fine. I’d be ok with $5.5-6 or so over 5 years because of what he brings on the defensive side of the game.

 

[Pickles]

What ? Subban got bridged by MB, when he asked for around 6M/year, a fair contract for a #1D. Subban was better than MB expected and Molson had to pay the man. MB is to blame for this one, not Subban.

Danault will think, "team first" ? That's why he asked to play with Tatar and Gallagher and on the top-6 or it will affect his next signature with us...

Who needs facts when it gets in the way of a good narrative? What makes anyone think that he would take a discount because he's a "team guy". He wasn't much of a team guy when he went and whined to the media.

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

Danault would not bring that prized winger alone, but he could be the player that helps get you there in a package deal.

Danault more than Domi but my preference is to keep Danault. We saw 10 good games of two promising centers aged 20 and people are ready to push the eject button on Danault. Wo man, relax a bit. On a stretch of 82 games don't you think that one of Su and KK will have ups and down. Some down that can last 10 games. Don't you think it's safer to keep Danault? You think he's a luxury, I think he's a major part if the team finally makes the PO.

Now I think Domi have some value because he is somehow a good player. As long as he have chemistry with his wingers or his centerman, depending where he plays, he is versatile. He is a small size player, something Habs have in a dozen. I would like Habs grow in size and removing Danault is a downgrade in size to start with.

And about what he said I think he reacted like a man who have some pride. Of course here people over-react because it's a forum, a little thing get out of proportion. I've read "Princess Danault" (not you Runner). "Princess Danault", ... no but seriously?

 

[Runner77]

Danault more than Domi but my preference is to keep Danault. We saw 10 good games of two promising centers aged 20 and people are ready to push the eject button on Danault.

People didn't just push the eject button. Danault activated it. We're just seeing the fallout from that.

 

[OldCraig71]

I know that Danault is a good player but Jesus H Christ, 6-7 million a season for what he brings? I would let him walk or trade him at the deadline, surely there must be guys that can be had for 3rd line center duty in the 3-4 million range. If he is signed to a large contract by MB we can all kiss the dream of a Suzuki-KK one two duo goodbye, if it happens we should trade one of them because one of them will rot on a bottom line because PD's contract will dictate that he gets top line minutes.

 

[Runner77]

I know that Danault is a good player but Jesus H Christ, 6-7 million a season for what he brings? I would let him walk or trade him at the deadline, surely there must be guys that can be had for 3rd line center duty in the 3-4 million range. If he is signed to a large contract by MB we can all kiss the dream of a Suzuki-KK one two duo goodbye, if it happens we should trade one of them because one of them will rot on a bottom line because PD's contract will dictate that he gets top line minutes.

6-7 Million doesn't buy you 30 goals anymore, as it did at one time. It now apparently gets you a guy who puts up 14 and who's going to try to be more offensive. Or else.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

This board sure has lost it , thinking Danault is worth 6m. You can tell we did not see any pure talent in decades. If we had a superstar , Danault salary would go down faster than Barry Allen making a 360 around earth.

We have no forwards in this team that is worth more than Drouin contract.

 

[OldCraig71]

6-7 Million doesn't buy you 30 goals anymore, as it did at one time. It now apparently gets you a guy who puts up 14 and who's going to try to be more offensive. Or else.

If MB does this he will cement the teams status as a bottom 10 team, I like PD but he needs to go if this is what he thinks of himself, we need a third line center that wants to be there, there are other options league wide. Trade him for D help, he is replaceable.

 

[McGees]

Here we go again.

The range for Danault as a first line center would put him anywhere between 6-7M, as a conservative estimate. Alexandre Pratt of LaPresse has looked at what his salary might look like and he claims as a first line center, the market would reflect a salary in the range of 6.5 to 7.5M. He obviously wouldn't get that if he were playing as a third liner.



If you want to point a finger at the "ridiculous", you only need to look at Danault and what he stated. There is no "variety" of scenarios where a first line center would be likely to get below 6M, flat cap or no flat cap. Always at the ready with flattering qualifiers, aren't you? "Plain stupid", huh? Nice.

Alexandre Pratt is Danault's uncle right? Just checking.

 

[Darkstorm]

Philip Danault hands down, but he's not top 6 material. If he was playing for a team like Tampa, he would be their 4th line center

 

[McGees]

Philip Danault hands down, but he's not top 6 material. If he was playing for a team like Tampa, he would be their 4th line center

But that is part of question. If you keep Danault you have to play him as top 6 centre and pay him as one. Same with Domi.

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

People didn't just push the eject button. Danault activated it. We're just seeing the fallout from that.

What do you mean the fallout? The reality or the hfboard little club reaction?

 

[Runner77]

Alexandre Pratt is Danault's uncle right? Just checking.

Could be his ex-aunt.