Who would you rather? Danault vs Domi

Who would you rather keep? (Comment below the reason(s) why)


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bsl

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Great. I want him to stay if he wants to be a Hab. he is too important to the team right now. I don't think putting pressure on KK is the best way to go right now. He regained his confidence in the plays ins. Let's keep it grow step by step. As for Suzuki, i'm pretty sure he is ready for prime time. He doesn't have to change his mindset to play a great 2-way game. He has it in himself. KK has to learn how to do it without morgaging his offense production. But it will come. I give it 2 years before he becomes a real top 6 centerman.

As for Danault, i'm ok with a 6years/5-6M$ per contract.
Do you realize that you have just said that you expect Suzuki and KK to be 1 and 2 Cs in 2 years, and then suggested giving Danault 6 years at 6 mill, to, if if you are correct, play on line 3 for 4-5 years? I cannot believe this thread. It's a f***ing travesty.
 
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Warning: @bsl has been doing a rapid-fire post reply of all 13 pages in this thread. He's calling all of you out, some of you for good reason. :D

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Feels good man. It's because I'm sober, which I detest. Usually I'd be pissed watching moronic youtube vids or be at some scummy bar.

But everyone has the right to their opinion. Even if it's f***ing way wrong.

That's a f***ing great GIF BTW. Thanks as usual for your efforts.
 
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Domi easily for me.
If Danault is as respected by other GMs as much as some on here, he will get good value if moved. Grab an O minded winger if possible in the deal. I like PD but not as much as Domi when I weigh Habs needs plus potential return if either is dealt. (Domi plus return on PD is better for Habs than PD plus return for Domi. JMO)
KK, Domi, Suzuki, Evans, Poehling works moving forward at C for now ( no particular order)
 

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Neither. I don't want to keep a player with limited talent who appears to think that he's a legit #1C. We can't afford to play him with Tatar and Gallagher next season, that's one of his two requisitions, he will probably ask for a trade and we will lose him for nothing.

Fifty points from the first line will turn into 30-35 points from the 3rd line, I don't want to pay that guy 6M...

We need to overpay elite talent, not complementary players.
My theory is that the 'middle class' in the NHL is being hollowed out. You pay your 4-5 big guys shitloads, and pay the rest peanuts. I'm exaggerating but Chicago had some success with this. Habs have and have had way too many bloated contracts for middling players. And 6 Mill for Danault would be one of them.
 

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Do you realize that you have just said that you expect Suzuki and KK to be 1 and 2 Cs in 2 years, and then suggested giving Danault 6 years at 6 mill, to, if if you are correct, play on line 3 for 4-5 years? I cannot believe this thread. It's a f***ing travesty.
We can't score goals, but let's spent 4.4 mil on a back up goalie, most likely 3.5 mil for Edmundson, 4+ mil for a stay at home AHL bound Alzner. and 6 mil for a defensive forward in Danault.
 

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Domi easily for me.
If Danault is as respected by other GMs as much as some on here, he will get good value if moved. Grab an O minded winger if possible in the deal. I like PD but not as much as Domi when I weigh Habs needs plus potential return if either is dealt. (Domi plus return on PD is better for Habs than PD plus return for Domi. JMO)
KK, Domi, Suzuki, Evans, Poehling works moving forward at C for now ( no particular order)
JT Miller would have been the perfect fit with Suzuki and Domi at RW.
 
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Except that he doesn't want to be a 3C and wants to be paid like a top line player.



And the GM has a hot potato on his hands. When Danault's agent comes calling with an ask for top line money, then what? Risk losing him as a UFA? Trade him at the last minute, with little term left?





Hummm ... a lot of people care. Like all the opposing GMs who inquired about him after his statements to the media. You're sugarcoating what he said. He didn't just state a preference, he gave an ultimatum.



You already know that it's against the rules in this place to make assertions of insider information without having had your information or status with the Danault family vetted by someone in authority in here. Until you do that, I can't ascribe any veracity to your statement. I could just as well say that I know his dog groomer and that am having an affair with his maid.
Or having an affair with his dog and grooming his maid. Same thing, it does not fly!
 
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My theory is that the 'middle class' in the NHL is being hollowed out. You pay your 4-5 big guys shitloads, and pay the rest peanuts. I'm exaggerating but Chicago had some success with this. Habs have and have had way too many bloated contracts for middling players. And 6 Mill for Danault would be one of them.

It's the stars and stripes method you see being used in other pro sports. If the cap remains flat, the big guys are still going to want to get paid so as you stated, those in the middle will get sqeezed out.
 

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JT Miller would have been the perfect fit with Suzuki and Domi at RW.
Had him in my pool last year. Knew he would kill it when he left Tampa. One of my favourite players. Does it all. But he was playing with Horvat. That helps. I had petterson and Horvat too. Killed it.

yeah we can only dream.
 
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bsl

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Agree. Pretty sure he wont move all his familly for a 500k anywhere else, where he will doesnt know if hes gonna really play on a first line. Just met him barely one time cause of friend in common. He seem to be a guy close of his friend and family. Sometimes. Emotions speaks over reason
The Danault support arguments here are .....interesting. Need to raise your game folks.
 

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Danno hands down IF he doesn’t aspire and be given first line center role.

Domi has been utterly useless in ANY role he played this year.
Domi had 70 points as a young C man 2 years ago and you are tossing him. WTF is going on here?
 

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Trading Danault would be dumb unless he asks to be traded or confirms an intent to test the market. If the team takes a big step forward with the kids hitting another gear then you keep him regardless as he would be irreplaceable for a playoff run.

Danault is likely worth alot more to this team than his potential trade value.

Danault had 1 EN goal this playoff. That's clutch man.
 
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These are Danault's comparables:

Bo Horvat (Vancouver): $5.5m
Mikael Backlund (Calgary): $5.35m
Charlie Coyle (Boston): $5.25m
Brayden Schenn (St. Louis): $5.125m
Jean-Gabriel Pageau (NYI): $5m
Carl Soderberg (Colorado): $4.75m
Vincent Trocheck (Carolina): $4.75m

I feel he fits into this group nicely.
LOL. Bo Horvat? Are you serious? Do you watch hockey other than Habs? Horvat will likely get 8 mill on his next contract. Maybe more. And deserve every penny. He is the lifeblood of the Nucks and does everything well.
 

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Bo Horvat? Are you serious? Do you watch hockey other than Habs?
Princess Danault ? He's no PK subban, he'll take a fair cut and think team first. Him saying he could still improve offensively and that he didn't see himself as a dedicated 3rd C really left some scars around here. fun to see all the drama queens go bananas.

sanity has left the building.
Another sterling support argument for Danault. Keep em coming.
 

bsl

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I'd trade both to be honest.

Domi has disappointed me big time this season. He had a chance to redeem himself in his first ever playoffs and didn't do anything. I don't know why he was on the 4th line, I don't agree with it but there was a probably a reason for that. I felt he didn't pushed the same way as the rest of the team for the whole season/playoffs.

Danault, unless he settles for under or around 5M$... but then again, I know the coach has a boner for this type of player so he will for sure get some top 6 time over Suzuki or KK. I'd rather live or die with them than having Danault stealing their development time like we did with Desharnais. And at the end of the day... Danault despite the big roles that we gave him in the last 2-3 years.. have never score more than 13 goals in his career. 1 goal in 16 playoffs game.. and it was an empty net. If our goal is to be better than mediocre, Danault has no place in the top 6.
Never say or write 'to be honest'. It implies that you normally are not, and makes people really uptight with you at the office and with what you are about to say. But I like your post very much.
 

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Man I feel like many fans here are severely under estimating how much Danault is worth or going to get in salary...

On the open market, guarantee he can get 7M$ long term (4-5+ years). 4.5M$ is on the very low end. Kevin Hayes got 7M$+ and his offense is similar to Danault (a bit worst honestly) and he has nowhere near as good defense.
Kevin Hayes is 6-5, 216, and has averaged about 23 goals a year the last 4 years. He is a center that scores goals. On the second line. Something Habs desperately need and that Danualt does not do. And he is very good at defence. I've had him in my pools and watched him a lot.

Kevin Hayes would be our no 1 C man right now, no question.

This thread. LOL.
 

bsl

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Danault is 27 Radulov 34. 2 way centers also tend to age better than offensive wingers. Don't think Danault starts to decline soon

Yes Radulov is great in playoffs. Not going to dispute that.

4 years from now - if we look back and compare the previous 7 years head to head Danault to Radulov - I expect that Danault's value as a player will have been higher for that 7 year stretch of Radulov's contract.

For whatever reason - fans are too enthralled with Radulov here.
Because he's f***ing good and super clutch in the PO? Just guessing.
 

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I think Petry ages better than Weber in his mid 30's. So yeah, I'd sign Petry to 36/37 depending on the AAV he ask for. Signing Petry for 4 years would overlap Weber by 2 if Weber retires after his age 37 season. To many people worried about 33-36 age range.

Do you think Petry looses his skating from 32-37?
Implication in Ozy post goes completely over head.
 

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We lack both scoring and defensive players in our top 9, so we need both or have to replace both. We also lack size, so losing Danault would hurt as he is a half-decent sized body and strong at201. But to have Suzuki and Danault as two centers who could play defense is a must if we want to do anything. Domi should be on the wing - total mystery why he isn't. If he refuses he has to be moved.
We have far too may defence first forwards in our top 9.
 
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bsl

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Danault more than Domi but my preference is to keep Danault. We saw 10 good games of two promising centers aged 20 and people are ready to push the eject button on Danault. Wo man, relax a bit. On a stretch of 82 games don't you think that one of Su and KK will have ups and down. Some down that can last 10 games. Don't you think it's safer to keep Danault? You think he's a luxury, I think he's a major part if the team finally makes the PO.

Now I think Domi have some value because he is somehow a good player. As long as he have chemistry with his wingers or his centerman, depending where he plays, he is versatile. He is a small size player, something Habs have in a dozen. I would like Habs grow in size and removing Danault is a downgrade in size to start with.

And about what he said I think he reacted like a man who have some pride. Of course here people over-react because it's a forum, a little thing get out of proportion. I've read "Princess Danault" (not you Runner). "Princess Danault", ... no but seriously? :huh:
Danault is a pending UFA. Domi is not. Are you prepared to have Danault get 6 mill as a third line C for 7 years?
 
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bsl

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If it’s so small-minded, are you sure you want to keep spending time here? I’d hate to be part of a “club” that I’d have so little esteem for.

To each his own, I guess.
No club that I have esteem for would ever have me.
 
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