Who would you rather? Danault vs Domi

[OldCraig71]

I'm curious to find out how many in here would be OK to pay Danault 6-7M as his agent will pitch that he's a top line center.

All great and dandy if Danault were to accept his third line role and get paid as a third liner. That ship has sailed.

If they use that angle, could we blame them? That was the role that Danault was given, he has never produced like a first liner because he lacks the talent to do so but the habs did have him in that role. I think that MB has dug himself yet another hole. What to do with Phil Danault? A flat cap and a 6 million dollar limited center like Danault will be hard to swallow and most teams will want him signed before accepting him in a trade, who will want him at that dollar amount ? MB might give him the money and then Claude will go back to demoting KK or Suzuki as soon as they falter and Phil is still his Montreal Bergeron, fun times.

 

[Hins77]

I know enough well Danault family to know that I'm not even concern that he will sign elsewhere. He wants to play here for the rest of his career.

Agree. Pretty sure he wont move all his familly for a 500k anywhere else, where he will doesnt know if hes gonna really play on a first line. Just met him barely one time cause of friend in common. He seem to be a guy close of his friend and family. Sometimes. Emotions speaks over reason

 

[McGuires Corndog]

Anyone who doesn’t pick Danault here is crazy.

Nothing flashy about him, but sending him out after Suzuki & Kotkaniemi in a year or two is going to be a massive luxury...

 

[Runner77]

Anyone who doesn’t pick Danault here is crazy.

Nothing flashy about him, but sending him out after Suzuki & Kotkaniemi in a year or two is going to be a massive luxury...

Almost everyone is picking Danault as a 3C and paid like one.

Try asking if they'd pay him on a long term deal like a first line C.

 

[peate]

A player like that is worth 4.5 mil tops; well maybe throw in and extra 500k for his last name.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Neither. I don't want to keep a player with limited talent who appears to think that he's a legit #1C. We can't afford to play him with Tatar and Gallagher next season, that's one of his two requisitions, he will probably ask for a trade and we will lose him for nothing.

Fifty points from the first line will turn into 30-35 points from the 3rd line, I don't want to pay that guy 6M...

We need to overpay elite talent, not complementary players.

Imagine if he actually signs him at 6 mil per for 5 years. Just a million less than whaf it would've taken to keep Radulov.

 

[Positive Vibes]

idk if i like the idea of trading them both, i think atleast one of them need to stay for when Suzuki and kk hit a rough patch imo

 

[HABitual Fan]

Keep Danault and it’s not even close. He’s the perfect 3C behind 2 young Center who can take all the defensive mission.

If he is willing to accept both the role and the salary a 3rd liner should earn, which unfortunately for him, with a flat cap, is not going to be higher than his current salary, keep him by all means. If he wants to be paid and played in a second line role, it would have to be elsewhere. Paying him more will be an anchor on the team going forward. Soon you will have your fill of 3rd and 4th liners needing to sign for close to league minimum in order for teams to stay under a flat cap and not lose their more talented players. A 3rd line center at $5,000,000 is a waste of money that should be allocated elsewhere in the line-up. I also don't think it benefits Suzuki and KK having a guy that the first bad game they have, the local media will be screaming for Danault to replace them on the top line, instead of letting them develop.

 

[The Real Timo]

Danno hands down IF he doesn’t aspire and be given first line center role.

Domi has been utterly useless in ANY role he played this year.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

idk if i like the idea of trading them both, i think atleast one of them need to stay for when Suzuki and kk hit a rough patch imo

Trading Danault would be dumb unless he asks to be traded or confirms an intent to test the market. If the team takes a big step forward with the kids hitting another gear then you keep him regardless as he would be irreplaceable for a playoff run.

Danault is likely worth alot more to this team than his potential trade value.

 

[habdynasty]

With Julien Danault is a lock to start at #1-#2 C and he will be almost impossible to remove as long as the coach stays the same.

Domi 5 years in has had 2 good seasons and 3 bad ones

The new Davey, this will piss the rest of the players off and they will eventually turn on the coach. Seen this movie before.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

I'd like to keep Danault if, like others have said, he's in Pageau's range. If he thinks he's worth $6m or more then trade him because he isn't.

It killed me when Julien said about Danault's comments: "Well, we're not going to tell him to stop scoring. "

Hey, CJ why don't you tell him to start! Guy had what? 1 goal in his last 20 games, and had one goal & 3 pts in 10 playoff games.

He got bumped into a defensive role because he wasn't producing. The team was better when he got moved to the 3rd line.

Personally, I'd trade both Danault & Domi and build around Suzuki & KK.

 

[TT1]

I'd keep Danault if he accepts getting paid as a 3C/borderline 2C, so around 5M-5.5M.

Anything more = bye bye

 

[MarkovsKnee]

These are Danault's comparables:

Bo Horvat (Vancouver): $5.5m
Mikael Backlund (Calgary): $5.35m
Charlie Coyle (Boston): $5.25m
Brayden Schenn (St. Louis): $5.125m
Jean-Gabriel Pageau (NYI): $5m
Carl Soderberg (Colorado): $4.75m
Vincent Trocheck (Carolina): $4.75m

I feel he fits into this group nicely.

 

[A Loyal Demidog]

These are Danault's comparables:

Bo Horvat (Vancouver): $5.5m
Mikael Backlund (Calgary): $5.35m
Charlie Coyle (Boston): $5.25m
Brayden Schenn (St. Louis): $5.125m
Jean-Gabriel Pageau (NYI): $5m
Carl Soderberg (Colorado): $4.75m
Vincent Trocheck (Carolina): $4.75m

I feel he fits into this group nicely.

Watch him demand 6.5-7m per season. And steal one of KK's or Suzuki's spot (likely both, as our 1C, because CJ gonna CJ).

Of course, we all know he'll get what he wants and more. Princess Danault's got the GM and coach wrapped around his thumb.

 

[Kriss E]

Trading Danault would be dumb unless he asks to be traded or confirms an intent to test the market. If the team takes a big step forward with the kids hitting another gear then you keep him regardless as he would be irreplaceable for a playoff run.

Danault is likely worth alot more to this team than his potential trade value.

Well the team sucks pretty badly so that doesn't mean a whole lot.

 

[Runner77]

Watch him demand 6.5-7m per season. And steal one of KK's or Suzuki's spot (likely both, as our 1C, because CJ gonna CJ).

Of course, we all know he'll get what he wants and more. Princess Danault's got the GM and coach wrapped around his thumb.

How many times have we seen posts on this forum saying that we will be in the best possible position to take a step forward when Danault assumes the third line role? Now that two others have claimed the top 2 center spots (which they'll still have to fight to keep), Danault comes out of the woodwork and won't accept the role. And he becomes a UFA in the summer of 2021.

You want to see a tectonic shift in leverage? Wait for the season to end and then find out that you're about to lose him to free agency. This needs to be addressed now not in the summer of 2021.

 

[Runner77]

Well the team sucks pretty badly so that doesn't mean a whole lot.

I don't know that Danault can't be a 2C on some other team. If he can be moved as 2C value and he becomes a key piece in filling a need on the top 6, you gotta consider that deal.

 

[THE HOFF]

Watch him demand 6.5-7m per season. And steal one of KK's or Suzuki's spot (likely both, as our 1C, because CJ gonna CJ).

Of course, we all know he'll get what he wants and more. Princess Danault's got the GM and coach wrapped around his thumb.

Princess Danault ? He's no PK subban, he'll take a fair cut and think team first. Him saying he could still improve offensively and that he didn't see himself as a dedicated 3rd C really left some scars around here. fun to see all the drama queens go bananas.

sanity has left the building.

 

[McGuires Corndog]

Almost everyone is picking Danault as a 3C and paid like one.

Try asking if they'd pay him on a long term deal like a first line C.

That is a much better question, IMO.

My answer is a resounding no.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Yeah I don't know where this idea that Danault is easily replaced comes from.

UFA centres: Ennis, Soderberg, Spezza, Grant, Thompson, Gagner.

Who there is going to win 55% of their faceoffs, lead the team in PK time and contribute offensively?

(I'm waiting for the inevitable Jake Evans nonsense replies)

Evans could be a good 3C it's way to early to know. So yeah, trading Danault would set us back a few seasons IMO.

 

[Habs Icing]

After Danault's presser I was under the impression that Danault wanted to be played (and obviously paid) as a top 6 center. I was wrong.

Dan Roberston was just on TSN690 and he let it slip that he understood the presser as Danault thinking he's a #1 center. How are you going convince Danault he ain't a #1 or even a #2?

Good luck Bergevin. As someone already mentioned, the Danault problem can't wait. It has to be settled to everyone's satisfaction this offseason. Not in 6-8 months.

 

[Scriptor]

That is a much better question, IMO.

My answer is a resounding no.

It is not a much better question because it reduces it to two diametrically opposed scenarios where one ridiculous one makes one less ridiculous one look like a reasonable answer. There's a variety of levels where Danault could be paid but, the 7M range some suggest as his asking price -- especially given the flat cap -- is plain stupid.

 

[bobholly39]

Man I feel like many fans here are severely under estimating how much Danault is worth or going to get in salary...

A player like that is worth 4.5 mil tops; well maybe throw in and extra 500k for his last name.

On the open market, guarantee he can get 7M$ long term (4-5+ years). 4.5M$ is on the very low end. Kevin Hayes got 7M$+ and his offense is similar to Danault (a bit worst honestly) and he has nowhere near as good defense.

Imagine if he actually signs him at 6 mil per for 5 years. Just a million less than whaf it would've taken to keep Radulov.

I was always concerned about signing Radulov long-term. He's the type of player who I felt could drop off significantly long term. 2-3 year contract fine, but if you start looking at 5+ years, the last years of contracts would be a killer.

You know this past season that Danault was pacing for 54 points over 82 games, while Radulov was pacing for....46? Significant edge to Danault on defense, and position, and age. Also - Radulov gets to play with Benn + Seguin, way more talent then forwards on Montreal Danault plays with.

I wouldn't be so quick to make the Radulov to Danault comparison as a way to mock Danault...

 

[Rosso Scuderia]

I'd trade both to be honest.

Domi has disappointed me big time this season. He had a chance to redeem himself in his first ever playoffs and didn't do anything. I don't know why he was on the 4th line, I don't agree with it but there was a probably a reason for that. I felt he didn't pushed the same way as the rest of the team for the whole season/playoffs.

Danault, unless he settles for under or around 5M$... but then again, I know the coach has a boner for this type of player so he will for sure get some top 6 time over Suzuki or KK. I'd rather live or die with them than having Danault stealing their development time like we did with Desharnais. And at the end of the day... Danault despite the big roles that we gave him in the last 2-3 years.. have never score more than 13 goals in his career. 1 goal in 16 playoffs game.. and it was an empty net. If our goal is to be better than mediocre, Danault has no place in the top 6.