Who Wins The Conn Smythe Trophy?

[Shane Diesel]

McDavid broke the playoff assist record set by Gretzky. Scored 10 more points than any other skater.

Exactly what numbers don't back up my gut? The 2 games you seem fixated on when the CST looks at the entire playoffs?

It was four games. And I'm specifically talking about the SCF.

Thanks for another random factoid that completely ignores what McDavid did.

As you continue spinning faster than a particle accelerator, a reminder that the onus is on you to show how one of the greatest playoff performances in history is unworthy of the CS and inferior to a player who got 20 less points. McDavid's numbers (11 pts in the SCF, 42 pts in the playoffs, in case you forgot) don't need me to prop them up.

I have. Multiple times in this thread. Tweets and a break down of his points by game. Which you won't address or ignore. They're scattered across the thread. But instead of engaging in a real conversation you just repeat the same post and accuse me of "fudging the numbers" or being disingenuous.

I've asked you numerous questions and attempted to engage in a real conversation and all I get in return are silly comments about nothing. Particle accelerators and Monty Python.

The lesson I've learned today is, just because you're a mod doesn't make you a serious poster.

*Squak* 11 points in seven games *squak*

Do we have updated stats for the series or just those games?

Was trying to find a summary through seven games, but couldn't.

If you happen to find them please post. I'd love to review.

 

[roon]

It was four games. And I'm specifically talking about the SCF.

You do understand that the CST is decided over more than just the finals right?

 

[Sasha Orlov]

McDavid apparently has an abdominal injury that needs surgery and still put up 42 points, guy is not human

 

[Shane Diesel]

You do understand that the CST is decided over more than just the finals right?

I do. And I consider the Finals to be the most important round. The round McDavid was totally hit or miss.

 

[roon]

I do. And I consider the Finals to be the most important round where McDavid was totally. hit or miss

Ahh ok - but you also understand that what you consider to be the most important is entirely irrelevant right?

 

[Catscountry40]

You haven't made a point. You've fudged numbers and blatantly contradicted yourself in a desperate bid to convince yourself that 11 points in 7 games is "Not showing up".

I have no dog in this fight. I'm not an Oliers fan and would've been just as happy if Bobrovsky won the CS. But seriously... you're working wayyyyy too hard to deny basic math. 42 points. 11 in the SCF.

McDavid winning is more about the media just hating on Florida and desperate to give anything to a Northern market. Again, is this was Oilers vs Burins and Bob was on the Burins

McDavid apparently has an abdominal injury that needs surgery and still put up 42 points, guy is not human

Ulcer from choking so much.

 

[Erik Alfredsson]

I can't believe people are actually trying to argue McDavid didn't deserve the Conn Smythe and giving him crap for not accepting it.

I respect the hell out of him for not accepting it, he's the leader of that Edmonton team, you expect him to leave his troops to claim an individual reward after coming within inches of the ultimate prize?

 

[RobBrown4PM]

Don't blame him in the slightest for not coming out. What's the point? He'd get jeered and memed to death on the internet by wonderful folks like those that inhabit this forum.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

McDavid winning is more about the media just hating on Florida and desperate to give anything to a Northern market. Again, is this was Oilers vs Burins and Bob was on the Burins

Ulcer from choking so much.

It’s embarrassing how some of you are dealing with this, you’re making your teams fan base look bad

 

[Shane Diesel]

Ahh ok - but you also understand that what you consider to be the most important is entirely irrelevant right?

You said it, not me. The Stanley Cup Finals are irrelevant to awarding the Conn Smythe.

 

[Erik Alfredsson]

Don't blame him in the slightest for not coming out. What's the point? He'd get jeered and memed to death on the internet by wonderful folks like those that inhabit this forum.

Not just that, but it's a different situation from Giguere. McDavid is the captain of the Oilers, he wasn't stepping foot out of that locker room until all the other guys left first.

 

[roon]

You said it, not me. The Stanley Cup Finals are irrelevant to awarding the Conn Smythe.

Oh no you misunderstood - I said what YOU think is irrelevant, not the SCF themselves. I'm sure everyone who voted considered the SCF equally to the other series the teams played in.

 

[Sentinel]

I'm guessing you'll happily count Barkov's point in Florida's 5-1 blowout loss.

SCF: 11 pts.
Playoffs: 42 pts.

Barkov is more than points. McDavid is not.

 

[heynowbababooey]

He didn’t come out to get his trophy, big deal. Find something else to be outraged about, something actually important. "How dare he? The disrespect!" The young man was upset, exhausted. Everybody deals with it differently.

Giguere and Bossy were both young men, upset and exhausted. Giguere went back out there and accepted it among the boos and Bossy did an interview while excepting it. Mcdavid is a baby, plain and simple. It's ridiculous how far people go to defend him. "He's a good captain and didn't leave his team." Lmao yeah right. "He doesn't care about individual awards." It's a good thing he skipped out on the NHL awards in Vegas all those years. Give me a break. Classless cry baby who gets a pass because he's canadas god.

 

[roon]

It’s embarrassing how some of you are dealing with this, you’re making your teams fan base look bad

It is South Florida - most of them began watching hockey during the 2023 playoffs.

Barkov is more than points. McDavid is not.

The INTANGIBLES GUYZ

 

[Sentinel]

It is South Florida - most of them began watching hockey during the 2023 playoffs.



The INTANGIBLES GUYZ

Yup. Leadership counts.

 

[bdub24]

Giguere and Bossy were both young men, upset and exhausted. Giguere went back out there and accepted it among the boos and Bossy did an interview while excepting it. Mcdavid is a baby, plain and simple. It's ridiculous how far people go to defend him. "He's a good captain and didn't leave his team." Lmao yeah right. "He doesn't care about individual awards." It's a good thing he skipped out on the NHL awards in Vegas all those years. Give me a break. Classless cry baby who gets a pass because he's canadas god.

No notes. This is it.

 

[roon]

Giguere and Bossy were both young men, upset and exhausted. Giguere went back out there and accepted it among the boos and Bossy did an interview while excepting it. Mcdavid is a baby, plain and simple. It's ridiculous how far people go to defend him. "He's a good captain and didn't leave his team." Lmao yeah right. "He doesn't care about individual awards." It's a good thing he skipped out on the NHL awards in Vegas all those years. Give me a break. Classless cry baby who gets a pass because he's canadas god.

When you win as many awards as McDavid does its old news. Guy is just tired of wasting the steps to collect more hardware...its boring.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

Yup. Leadership counts.

So true, and McDavid led his team to game 7 after being down 3-0 in the Finals, a feat not accomplished since 1945

 

[roon]

Yup. Leadership counts.

Where was the leadership in games 4/5 and 6?

 

[Erik Alfredsson]

Giguere and Bossy were both young men, upset and exhausted. Giguere went back out there and accepted it among the boos and Bossy did an interview while excepting it. Mcdavid is a baby, plain and simple. It's ridiculous how far people go to defend him. "He's a good captain and didn't leave his team." Lmao yeah right. "He doesn't care about individual awards." It's a good thing he skipped out on the NHL awards in Vegas all those years. Give me a break. Classless cry baby who gets a pass because he's canadas god.

Bossy never won the Conn Smythe on a losing team. Giguere was not the leader of the Ducks.

 

[bambamcam4ever]

the same people who say Lebron James are a fraud are the same who thinks Mcdavid choked , completely out of touch . oh wow he didnt get points in the last 2 games , someone call the police he did absolutely nothing. It's not like he was not the sole reason why Edmonton played a game 5 and 6.

By reading this Logic , Tkachuk , Verheagea (cant spell his freaking name) , Barkov all sucked the whole playoffs.

Dude had some chances last night but sometimes shit happens.

Bro plays 30min every games and has to carry the whole team and when the dude is off , nobody is there to support him.

LeBron is the best basketball player who has ever lived and accomplished more with less. McDavid is not.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

LeBron is the best basketball player who has ever lived and accomplished more with less. McDavid is not.

I think we can all agree that McDavid is not the best basketball player that ever lived yes

 

[Lara Emily]

LeBron is the best basketball player who has ever lived and accomplished more with less. McDavid is not.

Michael Jordan

 

[roon]

LeBron is the best basketball player who has ever lived and accomplished more with less. McDavid is not.

Lebron is by no objective measure the best basketball player who has ever lived.