What's Treliving first deal going to be?

[justashadowof]

It feels like Carter Hart to me.

Treliving starting his Leaf career by building from the net out, with Leafs starting goalie would be a place I would start as well.

It's the NHL off-season goalie musical chairs. Carter Hart 25% retention for an ECHLer?

 

[WTFMAN99]

Briere made a wild first deal as a GM

Maybe in the next week Treliving will make a trade.

 

[Mess]

It's the NHL off-season goalie musical chairs. Carter Hart 25% retention for an ECHLer?

The Arizona Coyotes got a 2022 first-round pick, conditional third, and Connor Timmins for then 31-year-old Darcy Kuemper. Would think the Flyers would want more than that?

Option #1
Leafs 1st (from Boston) + RFA rights Samsonov and Connor Timmins for Carter Hart.
Option #2
Leafs 1st (from Boston) + Matt Murray (50% retained) + Timothy Liljegren for Carter Hart.

 

[justashadowof]

Briere made a wild first deal as a GM

Maybe in the next week Treliving will make a trade.

I'm still trying parse out that trade.

LA paid a 1st, a 3rd pairing NHL defenseman (Walker) and $2M in retention for 2 years to lose the Petersen contract. They did free up about $5.5M in cap space as a result of it.
Philadelphia must be buying out Petersen.

 

[WTFMAN99]

I'm still trying parse out that trade.

LA paid a 1st, a 3rd pairing NHL defenseman (Walker) and $2M in retention for 2 years to lose the Petersen contract. They did free up about $5.5M in cap space as a result of it.
Philadelphia must be buying out Petersen.

Walker came off a bad injury to prove he's still an NHL defenseman but he's maybe a 3rd pairing guy at best although Braun is gone so they had an opening

Risto-DeAngelo-Walker

Although they may want out of the DeAngelo deal.

 

[ToneDog]

I'm still trying parse out that trade.

LA paid a 1st, a 3rd pairing NHL defenseman (Walker) and $2M in retention for 2 years to lose the Petersen contract. They did free up about $5.5M in cap space as a result of it.
Philadelphia must be buying out Petersen.

I thought it was Columbus' first that they acquired from LA. It was LA's 2nd ??

 

[thusk]

I'm still trying parse out that trade.

LA paid a 1st, a 3rd pairing NHL defenseman (Walker) and $2M in retention for 2 years to lose the Petersen contract. They did free up about $5.5M in cap space as a result of it.
Philadelphia must be buying out Petersen.

1st pick came from columbus from gavrikov trade

Lak traded grans, 2nd pick to clear cap space

 

[justashadowof]

I thought it was Columbus' first that they acquired from LA. It was LA's 2nd ??

I see now it was LA's 1st that Columbus got in the Quick trade. That changes payout differences. Makes a little more sense now.

 

[WillNy29]

Agreed. Trapper proposed Kempe for Marner. I thought that was not enough and added Clarke who was #8OA in 2021 and probably their best prospect. You also have to consider saving 5.5m in cap space. Perhaps you can get more but it is all hearsay because they are not trading Marner. Nylander for Seider ?? Maybe Dubas does that. Not Stevie Y.

does cap space score goals? especially when our new GM has shown he will spend it on troy Brouwer and James Neal?

 

[WillNy29]

I think it has more to do with how the teams are managed in Canada than anything Bettman has done. Edmonton is the only team with a hope in the next few years, but that‘s probably a long shot. I still think Ottawa is the next Canadian team to reach a Cup final.

the team that made it as far as the leafs this year and gets swept like its going out of style?

 

[ToneDog]

does cap space score goals? especially when our new GM has shown he will spend it on troy Brouwer and James Neal?

If we have an incompetent GM, we are doomed anyway.

 

[TheScandal89]

If Murray refuses to be LTIR'ed, they should just buy him out. Take the cap loss and move on.

They don't wanna take the 2nd year cap hit on it, first year is like 550k, 2nd year is like 1-2 mil. I don't know exact numbers.

Maybe we could waive and bury him though? Maybe a team would claim him

 

[ShaneFalco]

the team that made it as far as the leafs this year and gets swept like its going out of style?

Their stars show up and compete

 

[Trapper]

does cap space score goals? especially when our new GM has shown he will spend it on troy Brouwer and James Neal?

Kempe at 5.5 is a 40 goal scorer.
That leaves the remainder on Marner to get another forward (like a C moving Tavares to wing) or bolster the D so we give up 40 less.

 

[ToneDog]

Their stars show up and compete

They probably lost to the SC winner (top seed) while we lost to SC finalist (8th seed). I like 97 and 29 over 34 and 16 and a declining Tavares.

 

[WillNy29]

Their stars show up and compete

showed up all the way to a sweep...

hell showed up so good that the four games they needed them most one had 0g 1a and was -7 and the other had 1 even strength point and was -1. Showed up alright!

Heck they competed so hard all those years except for the year they got swept in the final anyways that McDavids even strength scoring seems to vanish in the playoffs.

maybe do a little bit of critical analysis rather than not holding other teams players to the same standard.

They probably lost to the SC winner (top seed) while we lost to SC finalist (8th seed). I like 97 and 29 over 34 and 16 and a declining Tavares.

lol excuses for others always!

 

[Captain Crunch]

And now you are getting it. The sum of parts is never equal to the best player. There is. Reason why there is a saying that during a trade, the team with the best player wins. There is an opportunity cost to playing every position. 1 100 pt Marner at 10.6mm is worth far more than 2- 50 pt players at 5.3mm each, as an example. Why? Because the other player you are replacing is also generating points. It's pretty basic stuff.

Okay, I get that, but where do you draw the line when you consider not being able to fill glaring needs at other positions due to cap constraints (too much $ being spent in one area or on just a few players)?

 

[Captain Crunch]

The Arizona Coyotes got a 2022 first-round pick, conditional third, and Connor Timmins for then 31-year-old Darcy Kuemper. Would think the Flyers would want more than that?

Option #1
Leafs 1st (from Boston) + RFA rights Samsonov and Connor Timmins for Carter Hart.
Option #2
Leafs 1st (from Boston) + Matt Murray (50% retained) + Timothy Liljegren for Carter Hart.

Based on latter part of regular season and the playoffs, we are not as strong as we were at defence, so I would hate to lose Lily.

 

[Budz]

He's gonna convince JT to waive his NTC and trade him without retaining salary.

I would literally cry happy tears.

 

[ShaneFalco]

showed up all the way to a sweep...

hell showed up so good that the four games they needed them most one had 0g 1a and was -7 and the other had 1 even strength point and was -1. Showed up alright!

Heck they competed so hard all those years except for the year they got swept in the final anyways that McDavids even strength scoring seems to vanish in the playoffs.

maybe do a little bit of critical analysis rather than not holding other teams players to the same standard.


lol excuses for others always!

Maybe try not being such a homer
They don't lose because their stars can't play playoff hockey and won't go to the net.

 

[WillNy29]

Maybe try not being such a homer
They don't lose because their stars can't play playoff hockey and won't go to the net.

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now do how much of this was round 1 (which the leafs also won) versus how much of it was the final 4 games that Edmonton laid an egg. I'm not being a homer I am holding them to the same standard.

how much of this was 5 on 5? 13 goals in 8 games means nothing because he scored 0 in the final 4 and was -7 with 1 assist, but please defend that...

20 points in his first 8 games 1 even strength goal in his last 4 while being -1.

started out like dragons finished off like wet farts from salmonella. sounds like the leafs players as well to me

 

[ToneDog]

showed up all the way to a sweep...

hell showed up so good that the four games they needed them most one had 0g 1a and was -7 and the other had 1 even strength point and was -1. Showed up alright!

Heck they competed so hard all those years except for the year they got swept in the final anyways that McDavids even strength scoring seems to vanish in the playoffs.

maybe do a little bit of critical analysis rather than not holding other teams players to the same standard.


lol excuses for others always!

LOL. Facts are facts. You slag the Oilers to defend Leafs failures. 16 and 34 can't touch 29 and 97 in the regular season or the playoffs. 34 is no longer close to 97. Ship sailed.

 

[WillNy29]

LOL. Facts are facts. You slag the Oilers to defend Leafs failures. 16 and 34 can't touch 29 and 97 in the regular season or the playoffs. 34 is no longer close to 97. Ship sailed.

not defending anyones failures in fact im saying both teams have failed, but reading comprehension can't be expected from everyone.

If the leafs got swept two times in a row they would get raked over the coals but you're out here babying the oilers. I have yet to get an explanation for the power outage failure of the oilers stars in their final 4 games aren't players who come to play for the playoffs supposed to not do that?

 

[ToneDog]

now do how much of this was round 1 (which the leafs also won) versus how much of it was the final 4 games that Edmonton laid an egg. I'm not being a homer I am holding them to the same standard.

how much of this was 5 on 5? 13 goals in 8 games means nothing because he scored 0 in the final 4 and was -7 with 1 assist, but please defend that...

20 points in his first 8 games 1 even strength goal in his last 4 while being -1.

started out like dragons finished off like wet farts from salmonella. sounds like the leafs players as well to me

You are not wrong but two wrongs do not make a right. I still take 29 and 97 over 16 and 34 and a declining JT.

 

[ToneDog]

not defending anyones failures in fact im saying both teams have failed, but reading comprehension can't be expected from everyone.

If the leafs got swept two times in a row they would get raked over the coals but you're out here babying the oilers. I have yet to get an explanation for the power outage failure of the oilers stars in their final 4 games aren't players who come to play for the playoffs supposed to not do that?

IIRC Oilers were not swept this year. You are right both teams deserve criticism but this is a Leafs board. Why bring up the Oilers ? Bruins blowing a 3-1 lead to Florida does not make me feel better about losing to Florida.