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[LuckyNumber11]

I’m at the point where I’ll only believe the new arena is happening when there’s shovels in the air, but I’ll also only believe we’re moving when the bags are packed and the plane is on its way. Both are equally unbelievable to me even though one has to happen

 

[Mosby]

 

[GhostofTommyBolin]

Downtown Phoenix is literally the #1 developing area in the state. The city literally gives money launderers tax breaks. Thats how they've been able to build so much.


Lol think again

You forgot to put 'literally' in your third sentence.

 

[Mosby]

The Fiesta Mall has really been sitting empty for 5 years?

 

[Bonsai Tree]

Are you a chatbot?

He joined on Wednesday.

 

[Jamieh]

Hartford would be lower than Quebec on the list of possibilities

Until today I'm not sure I have heard Hartford mentioned for a team pretty much ever??

 

[rt]

Anybody else see the report on Connecticut's Governor planning on talking to the League next week about having the Yotes move to Hartford? Long shot to happen, but interesting nonetheless.

Stunt.

Until today I'm not sure I have heard Hartford mentioned for a team pretty much ever??

It’s not the kind of place a team would go.

 

[Jamieh]

Stunt.


It’s not the kind of place a team would go.

Do they even have an arena these days? I think they played in a mall years ago?

Edit: just remembered the Wolfpack

 

[rt]

The Fiesta Mall has really been sitting empty for 5 years?

At least. But it was a single department store remaining before that. And it was more or less an indoor swap meet for a while. There were lots of shootings and stabbings. General gang activity. It was a rough place.

Before it got that rough, a young rt used to enjoy peddling up to it on a bmx with other hoodlums and various ill gotten illegal substances and having a hootenanny. Much of my misspent youth was around those parts.

Do they even have an arena these days? I think they played in a mall years ago?

Edit: just remembered the Wolfpack

If they had an arena, someone would’ve shot it and stole it.

He joined on Wednesday.

It’s a burner for one of our regulars, i’d guess.

 

[rt]

Hartford would be lower than Quebec on the list of possibilities

If there was a list of possibilities, Hartford would shoot it and steal it.

 

[Tanic]

Do they even have an arena these days? I think they played in a mall years ago? Edit: just remembered the Wolfpack

It's the same 50 year old building that the WHAlers played in. The mall was demolished around the arena.

 

[Nowotny]

Hartford would be lower than Quebec on the list of possibilities

Hartford's average household income is $36 thousand,one of the highest crime rates in America.....Hartford has bigger needs than profession hockey team

If there was a list of possibilities, Hartford would shoot it and steal it.

You mean "teamjacking"?

 

[Mosby]

It doesn’t make any sense for the NHL to go to dying cities like Milwaukee or Hartford.

Phoenix/The Valley is the fastest growing city in America. Population is something like 4 mil when you add up Phoenix, Scottsdale, and the like 10 other surrounding cities.

 

[Puckrobber]

Read somewhere that to even play in the old Whalers arena, it would need over $100 million to renovate it. Not something AM would even be interested in.

 

[Dirty Old Man]

Before it got that rough, a young rt used to enjoy peddling up to it on a bmx with other hoodlums and various ill gotten illegal substances and having a hootenanny. Much of my misspent youth was around those parts.

And a Dirty Not Yet Old Man went shopping in it for the folks back home for major holidays. Why? It was the only regional mall in the East Valley. No IKEA or Costcos yet either.

 

[rt]

It doesn’t make any sense for the NHL to go to dying cities like Milwaukee or Hartford.

Phoenix/The Valley is the fastest growing city in America. Population is something like 4 mil when you add up Phoenix, Scottsdale, and the like 10 other surrounding cities.

I thought Milwaukee was having a little come back. Maybe that was pre COVID. They seemed to take a step back after.

 

[Jamieh]

I wonder if you could get a peek inside Uncle Gary's war room what the order of importance is for future teams in the NHL? Not relocation, just if he had a magic bullet where he would put teams if he could? I don't think places like Quebec and Toronto would be very high as its not really expanding the fanbase or TV audience. I don't see Hartford or Milwaukee being very important in this regard either.

 

[rt]

Read somewhere that to even play in the old Whalers arena, it would need over $100 million to renovate it. Not something AM would even be interested in.

If there was a $100 million in renovations, Hartford would shoot it and steal it.

 

[SpaceCoyote]

I don't think this would ever happen, but speaking as a CT resident. There are a lot of bad takes happening here. As of 2022, CT has the largest per capita personal income out of any other state, fanbase income would be the least of the concern.

However, XL center in Hartford is a shithole and would need a massive investment to even be suitable for a modern NHL experience. Also, the AHL team playing in the same location recently drew under 5K for a playoff game, not an enticing turn out.

 

[TheLegend]

$100 million = “astrobucks”

(checking to see who remembers that one)

 

[0point1]

I wonder if you could get a peek inside Uncle Gary's war room what the order of importance is for future teams in the NHL? Not relocation, just if he had a magic bullet where he would put teams if he could? I don't think places like Quebec and Toronto would be very high as its not really expanding the fanbase or TV audience. I don't see Hartford or Milwaukee being very important in this regard either.

I think you take a look at the largest 30 metro areas by population in the United States and Canada and then subtract the ones you already have teams in, subtract markets that are shrinking, and subtract markets that maybe don't have the right average household income, subtract markets that wouldn't care about hockey, subtract markets where there isn't an arena or a path to an arena, and then subtract markets that don't have a billionaire to buy the team. I think all theses factors shrink the possibilities a lot.

The only market that really checks the boxes for relocation is Houston.

 

[Sinurgy]

It doesn’t make any sense for the NHL to go to dying cities like Milwaukee or Hartford.

Phoenix/The Valley is the fastest growing city in America. Population is something like 4 mil when you add up Phoenix, Scottsdale, and the like 10 other surrounding cities.

Nah man, it's even bigger now, Phoenix metro has eclipsed the 5 million mark at this point.

Phoenix metro population reaches 5 million

The city of Phoenix had the second highest number of new residents of any city in the country.

kjzz.org

 

[LuckyNumber11]

Before COVID they never stopped talking about how freaking Buckeye was the fastest growing community in the US. Don’t know where it’s at now

 

[Sinurgy]

Before COVID they never stopped talking about how freaking Buckeye was the fastest growing community in the US. Don’t know where it’s at now

I remember when Buckeye was like a separate town, now it's a freaking suburb. Same with Anthem and Queen Creek these days as well. Hell the 303 is freaking lined with houses and there are large communities beyond even that. San Tan is bustling now. It's just ridiculous how much the metro has grown over the past 20-30 years.

 

[Dirty Old Man]

Maricopa (City) now has over 65,000 people. It was a gas station and a red light on the way to Ak-Chin casino when I moved here. ("why is this SR 347 4-lane? there's no one here!") San Tan Valley is at almost 100,000. Coolidge, Florence (including the second Anthem!) and Eloy are all going to be huge later this century. Ever heard of Stanfield? You will. Unless Maricopa reaches down and gobbles it up first.