Confirmed with Link: Vincent Trocheck signs $5.625 x 7

[Levitate]

Panarin led the team in scoring by 15 points and in even-strength scoring by a pretty big margin. The prevailing negativity about him last season is wrong and tiresome.

nah his underlying analytics have been trending downwards and a big part of it is him playing more as a perimeter player. I'm not saying he needs to be crashing the net but he needs to do more offensively than pull up just inside the blueline and try to find a trailing player with a 50 foot pass through two defenders.

I'm not really worried about Panarin putting up points, I'm worried about him remaining effective in the playoffs when we need him to be still scoring and not just be a power play player

 

[ecemleafs]

nah his underlying analytics have been trending downwards and a big part of it is him playing more as a perimeter player. I'm not saying he needs to be crashing the net but he needs to do more offensively than pull up just inside the blueline and try to find a trailing player with a 50 foot pass through two defenders.

I'm not really worried about Panarin putting up points, I'm worried about him remaining effective in the playoffs when we need him to be still scoring and not just be a power play player

i really believe his "chemistry" with strome contributed to this downtrend in overall play.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

You're right, Drury won a Cup with Colorado, and was a 60 point player instead of a 50 point player.

In what world is it smart to give Trocheck 7 years?

Drury panicked and overpaid an OK player. Copp, Strome, Vatrano, Motte out. Trocheck in for 7 years. How are the Rangers improved?

Let me ask you this, a better center becomes available. How the hell are the Rangers getting out of that Trocheck contract? How are they improving? They're stuck with a 50 point player for 7 years.

People here made fun of Lou for Pageau. This is worse. It's 1 year and 500K more for essentially the same player. People made the comment that's why the Islanders aren't going anywhere, because they overpaid middling players. That's exactly this. There's no potential for growth on this deal. He's 29 years old. It's not like gambling on a 24 year old PLD turning from a 60 pt player to a 70+ point player. People really think Trocheck is going to become something he's not?

It's a terrible contract no matter how it's dissected. You don't panic and give Trocheck 7 years. He's worth 4 years. Maybe. "But then he'd ask between 6 and 7 million". He's not worth it.

Drury just completely shut the door on improving the team because of this.

And don't get me started on the Halak signing. Halak is garbage. If Shesterkin gets injured at all this team is f***ed.

He's had seasons where he either had 70+ points or was on pace for them. Let's see what he does playing with Panarin.

 

[Baby Punisher]

We are borderline. We added Vinnie while losing Strome, Copp and Frankie. We are still a goal or 2 from going out in the first round vs Pitt. We need to add Kane.

I think we will find one or two of those holes will be filled from within. If we get Kane, WATCH OUT!

 

[SnowblindNYR]

We don't make it out of the first round without Trouba. All those wanting him gone will realize exactly how important he is... when it is too late.

The Trouba sucks takes are sooooo 2021.

 

[mas0764]

Trochek isn’t my preferred solution but they clearly are projecting him as an upgrade to Strome and the long term 2C and they did it without liquidating Kakko, Chytil, Kravtsov, Lundkvist, Othmann or any other young chip.

While it’s another big contract and thus Kreider and/or Trouba remains on the “move before some people think” block, the fact that you still have Lundkvist and a first to chase a young center is appealing. You then have wings for days, but I maintain that securing a young center is still a premium need.

They need a plan for how they are gonna extend Kakko, Lafreniere, Miller, Chytil, etc, though, cause money gets tight fast.

I wonder if Goodrow isn’t moved sooner than later…. Not this season, but next.

 

[NickyFotiu]

I think we will find one or two of those holes will be filled from within. If we get Kane, WATCH OUT!

These windows close fast. Kreider and Bread will age. Young guys may get injured. If we can get 1 year of Kane at a small price I say go for it now.

 

[JMan74]

We are borderline. We added Vinnie while losing Strome, Copp and Frankie. We are still a goal or 2 from going out in the first round vs Pitt. We need to add Kane.

We were doing pretty great this year BEFORE adding Vatrano and Copp. And we just added a guy more talented than any we lost. If Laffy and/or Kakko take a leap in their deveoplment next year we will be legit Stanley Cup contenders.

nah his underlying analytics have been trending downwards and a big part of it is him playing more as a perimeter player. I'm not saying he needs to be crashing the net but he needs to do more offensively than pull up just inside the blueline and try to find a trailing player with a 50 foot pass through two defenders.

I'm not really worried about Panarin putting up points, I'm worried about him remaining effective in the playoffs when we need him to be still scoring and not just be a power play player

Which is why we need to get him better complementary linemates to his game. Which Trocheck was a huge step up in that department.

 

[NickyFotiu]

We were doing pretty great this year BEFORE adding Vatrano and Copp. And we just added a guy more talented than any we lost. If Laffy and/or Kakko take a leap in their deveoplment next year we will be legit Stanley Cup contenders.

We will be one of many that have a chance. I just think we need more to actually win.

 

[JMan74]

Possible but that depends on if Kakko and/or Laffy finally play to their draft status next year. If both do this team is loaded. Hopefully our third line flashing in the playoffs is a sign of things to come.

We will be one of many that have a chance. I just think we need more to actually win.

 

[JMan74]

Trocheck was on Sirius NHL radio before....as we know he and Gallant were together in Florida and he said it was a major reason he signed with the Rangers.

He said Gallant was the best coach he has played for!

Love it. Drury in lock-step with his coach.

 

[1Knee1T]

NTC: 12 teams in year 5, 10 teams in year 6, 6 teams in 6 and 7. He's obviously not going anywhere the first 3 years anyway and it's a low team count on the NTCs, but man, this team sure does love handing out NMC and NTCs.

 

[NYRFAN218]

I'm happier after seeing those contract details because those final 2 years are quite obviously ending up in Arizona or whatever cap dump haven is around then. $3 mil signing bonus paid out July 1 followed by $1.5 in actual salary that season (27-28) and $4 mil total for 28-29. So that's $5.5 in actual salary for a cap hit of $5.625 per season. The Coyotes are probably salivating at the thought of this and may actually make this contract an asset in terms of dumping it.

 

[gravey9]

This falls right in line with trading for guys like Copp, Vatrano and Motte. It's not the sexiest, but it might be a good fit for the team.

While he has a pretty decent shot, Trocheck actually scores most of his goals from close to the net. Deflections, rebounds. He actually played netfront on the Canes PP. At 5'10", that says A LOT about the kind of player he is.

Will he mesh with Panarin? That's the big question. To this point, I have to say Drury has done a very good job finding guys that FIT. But we'll see. Trocheck is more gritty and far less perimeter than Strome. This could be a huge help because maybe, just maybe the other winger on that line won't be forced to do all the hard work. Again, time will tell, but Strome was far too perimeter too often. As much as he meshed with Panarin during the regular season, their pairing was not great in the postseason.

That said, the one thing I really liked with Strome's game was his skating. When he was most effective with Panarin he was using his wheels to create space and havoc. I don't know if that will be lost with Trocheck. Time will tell.

But in theory, I do like the potential flexibility of adding Trocheck. And as with guys like Motte, Berard, Sykora --- players with a high motor are really important to the build of this team and something sorely lacking -- still. VT likely could mesh well with most of our wingers and move around in the lineup as needed. And Zibby really needs another center who can win a big faceoff. It can't just be him.

The term is long, but as the salary cap goes up, having a 2nd line C option at 5.6 may quickly turn into a luxury.

 

[McSauer]

I'm happier after seeing those contract details because those final 2 years are quite obviously ending up in Arizona or whatever cap dump haven is around then. $3 mil signing bonus paid out July 1 followed by $1.5 in actual salary that season (27-28) and $4 mil total for 28-29. So that's $5.5 in actual salary for a cap hit of $5.625 per season. The Coyotes are probably salivating at the thought of this and may actually make this contract an asset in terms of dumping it.

Oh, it'll still be ARZ lol

 

[duhmetreE]

He's 5x the finisher of Ryan Strome..

He's a chaos player. He cleans up in front and the puck usually finds him in the slot.

40 goals is doable if he's replacing Strome on PP1

 

[hackeyman]

Thinking more about it I'll add some different perspective on the term. Trocheck just turned 29 so he'll be 35 in his last year playing. He doesn't have a history of injuries and he has been a pretty consistent performer . I think it's possible his best years could come as a Ranger considering his potential linemates and he fits Gallants game well . Now that we're fulling coming out of covid the cap is probably going to grow pretty fast. It wouldn't be impossible that the term could end up being to our advantage. Regardless I like the signing .

 

[gravey9]

And one more thing -- the one thing the Rangers need are more guys who have that little extra something to get the puck out of their own zone when under pressure. Guys like Trocheck, with their motors, are exactly what's needed.

 

[NickyFotiu]

Possible but that depends on if Kakko and/or Laffy finally play to their draft status next year. If both do this team is loaded. Hopefully our third line flashing in the playoffs is a sign of things to come.

I expect Laf to progress. Have to wait and see with KK but I still think we needcmore if we want to actually win instead of contend.

 

[Platano King]

I like this signing. he's an upgrade over Copp (and a legit C) for the same price, and without a doubt a big upgrade over Strome. I don't think the term is that bad considering that once the cap starts rising again in 2025 or so, 5.6 is gonna be the going rate for a 3rd-line forward. My only main concern is injuries but there's no reason he can't score 30+ goals again with Panarin.

 

[rangers1314]

This is a very good deal structure by NYR.

Good work.

 

[RangersFan1994]

He's 5x the finisher of Ryan Strome..

He's a chaos player. He cleans up in front and the puck usually finds him in the slot.

40 goals is doable if he's replacing Strome on PP1

He is a much better skater and makes the team a lot quicker. He has some grit although does not fight as much as Strome, he does not back down either. More of a complete player. A better overall player than Strome

 

[JohnC]

The way the movement clauses are laid out makes this a lot easier to stomach.

 

[JMan74]

Great job by Drury

 

[Kords]

Nice