Confirmed with Link: Vincent Trocheck signs $5.625 x 7

[HockeyBasedNYC]

Just realized not only did Trocheck steal Stromes spot on the team but also his uniform lol

 

[ohbaby]

Delete. Double post.

 

[ohbaby]

Trocheck can skate, is more physical, and plays some defense. He's much more of a complete player than Strome and that's what they were looking for. They want better 5x5 play and more defensive responsibility from that line. Strome was OK especially when we got him for Ryan Spooner but it's been pretty apparent for quite some time that they were not going to commit to him long term. 7 year contracts are a good thing when it enabled the team to get the better player. The structure of the contract is absolutely fine also and who cares about something 6 or 7 years down the road. He's a center, the contract if movable, and the cap could be 20-30 million higher by then. It's all good.

I like Trocheck's style of play. Scrappy, quick, and plays a 200-foot game. And he is amped to play alongside the Breadman. Just not sure if they will jell. Cause we have seen a few guys that haven't, i.e,.. Kakko, Frankie V, etc...

But honestly these long-term contracts are a killer. Maybe his is a bit more flexible, but 7 years for at best a 2C or 3C? Kreids, Trouba, Panarin, Zibad, Fox and now Trocheck? How are we gonna lock up Miller and Laffy moving forward? You guys know more about this than I do, but I remember years past when Slats handed out these contracts like candy. And it looks like history is repeating itself.

 

[Lgrsean]

Just remember when the last time Rangers signed a former Hurricanes player in the offseason. remember Matt Cullen just saying. I wanna see his chemistry with Panarin and the Rangers before I get so excited. On paper its a great move and fit. Let’s see how it works on the ice.

Trocheck scored 75 points when he was on a line with Huberdeau. I think we're going to see a big jump in his offensive production. I'm hoping he isn't on the power play so Laf can get in there and he can be one of our main PK forwards. With Rooney, Copp, and Motte gone, some guys will need to step up there.

 

[mrmovies779]

Bump Laf up to pp1 in Stromes spot,Vinnie on pp2 as the net front presence-same spot he played for the Canes.

 

[Lgrsean]

Looking at the terms of these contracts,... it sure seems this one play, really influenced the moves made today....

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And I'm not sure it was fair as Strome was hurt post-season. Less years and less money stings.

Can it be the Rangers are blaming the poor play of the Breadman, on his linemates?

Trocheck is as good as Strome offensively and had a 75 point season on a line with Huberdeau. He's much better than Strome on the forecheck, defensively, and on the PK.

 

[ohbaby]

Trocheck scored 75 points when he was on a line with Huberdeau. I think we're going to see a big jump in his offensive production. I'm hoping he isn't on the power play so Laf can get in there and he can be one of our main PK forwards. With Rooney, Copp, and Motte gone, some guys will need to step up there.

Has our good buddy Jovanovski started the Kravtsov, Chapter 3 thread yet? LOL

 

[Lone Ranger]

It’s Trocheck, not Trochek. Just want to nail this down now, since he’s here for the next seven years.

Sam will call him Crotch-Check or Cross-check before game ten.

 

[McRanger92]

I like Trocheck's style of play. Scrappy, quick, and plays a 200-foot game. And he is amped to play alongside the Breadman. Just not sure if they will jell. Cause we have seen a few guys that haven't, i.e,.. Kakko, Frankie V, etc...

But honestly these long-term contracts are a killer. Maybe his is a bit more flexible, but 7 years for at best a 2C or 3C? Kreids, Trouba, Panarin, Zibad, Fox and now Trocheck? How are we gonna lock up Miller and Laffy moving forward? You guys know more about this than I do, but I remember years past when Slats handed out these contracts like candy. And it looks like history is repeating itself.

The Rangers will make it work to keep guys who show they are core pieces. Laf & Miller aren’t going anywhere. It’s the Chytil’s & Kakko’s who need to show us more and make the decision hard

 

[Row I Goon]

This signing made my nipples hard AND gave me wood.

It‘s a sign, I tells ya!

 

[NYRFANMANI]

Goodrow.

We now have two 29 year old meh centers locked in for 5 and 7 years more.

I wouldn't be making fun of the Islanders when Drury isn't doing much better.

Goodrow has M-NTC, technically can be moved at any time.

Trochek has 3 years of full NMC, next four years M-NTC.

.... so don't get worked up too much about it.

I guess I'm fine with the deal. Hate the asset management by Drury though.

 

[and 99 others]

Alright buckle up cause this post's a big ole steamin pile of dog doo doo.

In what world is it smart to give Trocheck 7 years?

In the world where the Rangers need a 2C, the salary cap is going up, the first 3 years are an NMC, last 4 are an NTC that's easily moveable unless Trocheck, i dunno, literally falls off a cliff and breaks every bone in his body? I'll take that risk.

Drury panicked and overpaid an OK player. Copp, Strome, Vatrano, Motte out. Trocheck in for 7 years. How are the Rangers improved?

Kakko and Laff are better than Vatrano. Blais is coming back. Trocheck is better than Copp and Strome, and its a disingenuous argument because they both just went for 5M each. Couldn't have had both (not that anybody in their right mind would sign strome to 5 x 5).

It's a terrible contract no matter how it's dissected. You don't panic and give Trocheck 7 years. He's worth 4 years. Maybe. "But then he'd ask between 6 and 7 million". He's not worth it.

This isn't EASPORTS NHL where you just decrease the contract length to suit whatever fit whatever you want as an armchair GM and slightly increase the contract value. This is Trocheck's last big signing and he and his agent know what fair value is.

And don't get me started on the Halak signing. Halak is garbage. If Shesterkin gets injured at all this team is f***ed.

Usually when a team's best player gets injured at a position that only one player can fill, that team is not going to do well. Which serviceable .900+ save percentage NHL goalie would you have signed to a 1 year deal?

 

[JMan74]

Looking at the terms of these contracts,... it sure seems this one play, really influenced the moves made today....

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And I'm not sure it was fair as Strome was hurt post-season. Less years and less money stings.

Can it be the Rangers are blaming the poor play of the Breadman, on his linemates?

Or that they dont have much choice than to believe so? Or they do have choice but he is such a team player who has had good years before that they are giving him the benefit of the doubt and improving the players around him?

Was it just he couldn't figure out his role on GGs system? Was he playing hurt? The one thing Quinn seemed to do is get a lot of of Panarin shooting wise. GG needs to figure out who to get the more aggressive Panny back. Does a better Centerman do that? Is it a talk? A scheme adjustment? Was it simply an undisclosed injury???

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

barf. not better than strome. was the extra year or two really worth not going up 400k for copp? bleh

Trocheck is better than Strome at:

- Faceoffs
- Defensive play
- Empty nets

And he's on par with Strome on anything else. I will gladly pay 400k a year more for that. Strome signed for 5m AAV for 5 years.

 

[NickyFotiu]

I think its pretty telling where some of our former guys are signing. Copp in Detroit. Strome in Anaheim. Even TDA in Philly. These are not contending teams that are willing to pay them 5 mill a year.

 

[AlaBlueShirt]

barf. not better than strome. was the extra year or two really worth not going up 400k for copp? bleh

100%. Copp isn’t a real center.

 

[Synergy27]

Looking at the terms of these contracts,... it sure seems this one play, really influenced the moves made today....

View attachment 569020

And I'm not sure it was fair as Strome was hurt post-season. Less years and less money stings.

Can it be the Rangers are blaming the poor play of the Breadman, on his linemates?

You are ignoring the fact that that one play encapsulated years worth of frustration though.

Ryan Strome is a stat compiler. He is not a key cog on a championship winning team. He does not have the mentality required to do the little things, especially the physical things, that are required to win. He also got into a crazy, bad habit rut with the highest paid winger in the league that the coach allowed to continue indefinitely. We needed to ensure that that stopped asap.

Is Trocheck the answer? I’m not sure. He is a similar player to Strome, but he’s better at a lot of the things that Strome was bad at.

Will he mesh with Panarin? He better, and that’s on Artemi. I’ve had enough of the pandering to him. If Panarin can only play with Strome and some random plug (Blackwell, Hunt, etc.) it just further cements the assessment that the dude isn’t worth his contract. He needs to get his shit together and do it in a way that benefits the team up and down the lineup.

 

[Irishguy42]

Trocheck is better than Strome and Copp, so this is fine. He's not going to be here the full 7 years either so it's also whatever.

The structure of the deal is pretty good. Drury did a great job there.

 

[NickyFotiu]

100%. Copp isn’t a real center.

Copp said he would take less to be on a winner but signed in Detroit. So does that say no winner wanted him?

 

[NickyFotiu]

While I didn't want to re-sign Strome Im happy he got paid. He seems like a good guy and he played above expectations after we traded for him. I also enjoyed seeing him with his young kids before the game. I wish him well.

 

[GENESISPuck94]

Trocheck is better than Strome and Copp, so this is fine. He's not going to be here the full 7 years either so it's also whatever.

The structure of the deal is pretty good. Drury did a great job there.

I don't contest that. He's an upgrade to both Strome and Copp.

My issue comes from what happened with Nemeth. This could be me over thinking it.

But moving Nemeth required sacrificing two 2nd round picks. Arizona would be stupid to opt for the 3rd instead of the 2nd. And Nemeth's contract only has 2 years left.

What happens when we realize Trocheck isn't getting us past Tampa and Colorado? What will have to be attached to him to move his contract?

I don't think Trocheck puts us over the top.

 

[NYRangers16]

Trocheck is better overall player than Strome and unlike Copp he is actually a center.

Not a super awesome contract but not a disaster. Rangers needed to keep the cap hit down. Hopefully no NMC but that’s what happens when you get top FAs. This is a good deal. Maybe not a great deal but it’s a good deal.

I'd argue this point. I like the player, but this has Dolan written all over it. Trocheck vs us was a beast. It just seems reactionary. And that concerns me. After great strides this season, now we do this?

This contract is ugly. Either immediately or later.

 

[Chytilmania]

Panarin now has a shooter/finisher to play with.

 

[Chytilmania]

I hope it doesn't take the 3 years for it to happen but I can totally see Trocheck having a Kadri like year/post season with the Rangers that puts them over the top for a Cup win.

We are good down the middle for a while.

 

[duhmetreE]

Trocheck is better than Strome at:

- Faceoffs
- Defensive play
- Empty nets

And he's on par with Strome on anything else. I will gladly pay 400k a year more for that. Strome signed for 5m AAV for 5 years.

way better skater/forechecker. That was a major problem too

He attacks the middle of the ice.

What worries me is Panarin molding him into playing his style lol