Confirmed with Link: Vincent Trocheck signs $5.625 x 7

[RangersFan1994]

Just remember when the last time Rangers signed a former Hurricanes player in the offseason. remember Matt Cullen just saying. I wanna see his chemistry with Panarin and the Rangers before I get so excited. On paper its a great move and fit. Let’s see how it works on the ice.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

Dropping by to say I would've loved this deal at 5 years. Saw it was for 7 and was less than enthused. Now that I see the structure, however, I feel a lot better.

IMO, it's clearly structured to a) make him a bottom 6er in the out years and b) be super easy to move.

 

[EEL]

i really believe his "chemistry" with strome contributed to this downtrend in overall play.

Not fair to Bread! He had Strome strapped to him in the playoffs and Strome was (I feel) struggling with the fact he wasn’t in future plans.
he was terrible!

 

[Kravtsov420]

You think the first day of camp will be like mean girls where he completes ignores Trocheck ?

Then Panarim teaches him to hate Kakko, and they start bonding. It’s the end of one love story, and the beginning of another.

Hip Hop and Love: the Panarin Story part II

 

[xsniper11x]

Strome signed w/ Ducks for 5x$5mm, in case you want to feel even better about the Trocheck deal.

 

[mas0764]

He's 5x the finisher of Ryan Strome..

He's a chaos player. He cleans up in front and the puck usually finds him in the slot.

40 goals is doable if he's replacing Strome on PP1

Isn’t that Kreider’s role? That PP spot should go to Lafreniere.

You think the first day of camp will be like mean girls where he completes ignores Trocheck ?

Then Panarim teaches him to hate Kakko, and they start bonding. It’s the end of one love story, and the beginning of another.

Hip Hop and Love: the Panarin Story part II

Would be better if Panarin bonds with Kakko instead of Trochek in retaliation for the team letting Strome go.

 

[Kravtsov420]

Isn’t that Kreider’s role? That PP spot should go to Lafreniere.



Would be better if Panarin bonds with Kakko instead of Trochek in retaliation for the team letting Strome go.

I just got a boner

 

[RangersFan1994]

 

[PuckLuck3043]

Some of you guys worrying about years 6 and 7 make me laugh. Very good signing for their most pressing need. It was very apparent they wanted a proven NHL 2C and they kept AAV below 6 mil and structure of deal is good. He should fit in well. Kadri will be overpaid elsewhere and lost no prospects and young guys in trades for JT Miller or PLD. It's all good.

 

[haveandare]

Yeah I’m not worried about 5 years from now. So much will change. Cap should be up too so a guy like this can be a bottom 6er and still be useful at that price.

He gives us a ton of flexibility imo. Can center Panarin and give him a straight line hard working center which he hasn’t really had here yet. Could be paired with Goodrow and Kakko for a shutdown line when needed too.

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

nah his underlying analytics have been trending downwards and a big part of it is him playing more as a perimeter player. I'm not saying he needs to be crashing the net but he needs to do more offensively than pull up just inside the blueline and try to find a trailing player with a 50 foot pass through two defenders.

I'm not really worried about Panarin putting up points, I'm worried about him remaining effective in the playoffs when we need him to be still scoring and not just be a power play player

The bolded is exactly why we needed to move on from Strome. The style player Trocheck is will hopefully get Panarin out of his pond hockey bad habits. And look, the crazy passes and doubling back and forcing cross ice passes are going to still happen and they should because that's what makes Panarin special, the difference now is that instead of his center also meandering and floating and trying to play like Artemi he's instead going to have a center who can play that creative style skill wise but likes to push the pace and is a good forechecker who can win battles, can cycle, can play on the rush. I feel like it's going to be a real strong fit.

 

[ohbaby]

Looking at the terms of these contracts,... it sure seems this one play, really influenced the moves made today....

And I'm not sure it was fair as Strome was hurt post-season. Less years and less money stings.

Can it be the Rangers are blaming the poor play of the Breadman, on his linemates?

 

[Rangers in 7]

You're right, Drury won a Cup with Colorado, and was a 60 point player instead of a 50 point player.

In what world is it smart to give Trocheck 7 years?

Drury panicked and overpaid an OK player. Copp, Strome, Vatrano, Motte out. Trocheck in for 7 years. How are the Rangers improved?

Let me ask you this, a better center becomes available. How the hell are the Rangers getting out of that Trocheck contract? How are they improving? They're stuck with a 50 point player for 7 years.

People here made fun of Lou for Pageau. This is worse. It's 1 year and 500K more for essentially the same player. People made the comment that's why the Islanders aren't going anywhere, because they overpaid middling players. That's exactly this. There's no potential for growth on this deal. He's 29 years old. It's not like gambling on a 24 year old PLD turning from a 60 pt player to a 70+ point player. People really think Trocheck is going to become something he's not?

It's a terrible contract no matter how it's dissected. You don't panic and give Trocheck 7 years. He's worth 4 years. Maybe. "But then he'd ask between 6 and 7 million". He's not worth it.

Drury just completely shut the door on improving the team because of this.

And don't get me started on the Halak signing. Halak is garbage. If Shesterkin gets injured at all this team is f***ed.

LOL

This post sucks

 

[Sayba]

Some of you guys worrying about years 6 and 7 make me laugh. Very good signing for their most pressing need. It was very apparent they wanted a proven NHL 2C and they kept AAV below 6 mil and structure of deal is good. He should fit in well. Kadri will be overpaid elsewhere and lost no prospects and young guys in trades for JT Miller or PLD. It's all good.

I still think we need to trade Nils, he doesn’t really fit with our roster, we need to get something for him now.

 

[Levitate]

Not fair to Bread! He had Strome strapped to him in the playoffs and Strome was (I feel) struggling with the fact he wasn’t in future plans.
he was terrible!

he also had a pelvis injury

The bolded is exactly why we needed to move on from Strome. The style player Trocheck is will hopefully get Panarin out of his pond hockey bad habits. And look, the crazy passes and doubling back and forcing cross ice passes are going to still happen and they should because that's what makes Panarin special, the difference now is that instead of his center also meandering and floating and trying to play like Artemi he's instead going to have a center who can play that creative style skill wise but likes to push the pace and is a good forechecker who can win battles, can cycle, can play on the rush. I feel like it's going to be a real strong fit.

yeah the cross ice passes and stuff are great but not if they're the ONLY thing you do, and Panarin tried them far too often. He forced a lot of low percentage stuff instead of relying on his linemates to work the puck around a bit if something wasn't immediately available. I think a guy like Trochek will be driving more down the middle of the ice which will open stuff up a bit. It was a bit like that with Copp but was also easy to fall back on those habits with Strome

We'll see, I'm sure Panarin knows he needs to be better than he was in the playoffs

 

[PuckLuck3043]

I still think we need to trade Nils, he doesn’t really fit with our roster, we need to get something for him now.

They will when the right move comes along. I think they will see how he does in camp.

 

[Crease]

It’s Trocheck, not Trochek. Just want to nail this down now, since he’s here for the next seven years.

 

[PuckLuck3043]

Looking at the terms of these contracts,... it sure seems this one play, really influenced the moves made today....

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And I'm not sure it was fair as Strome was hurt post-season. Less years and less money stings.

Can it be the Rangers are blaming the poor play of the Breadman, on his linemates?

I don't think so. It's just that they wanted to upgrade center and didn't want to commit to Strome or Copp. Quite frankly I don't blame them. Trocheck is better than both.

 

[egelband]

Dropping by to say I would've loved this deal at 5 years. Saw it was for 7 and was less than enthused. Now that I see the structure, however, I feel a lot better.

IMO, it's clearly structured to a) make him a bottom 6er in the out years and b) be super easy to move.

Yeah. A guy like Trocheck can play top six or bottom six. A very important comfort in signing such a long deal. He may end up being a little overpaid but he’ll always have a role.

 

[Chaels Arms]

Looking at the terms of these contracts,... it sure seems this one play, really influenced the moves made today....

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And I'm not sure it was fair as Strome was hurt post-season. Less years and less money stings.

Can it be the Rangers are blaming the poor play of the Breadman, on his linemates?

Strome sucked.

Walking away from him despite the team's highest paid forward being his bestie and the coach deploying him like he's Sidney Crosby is the smart type of move the Rangers usually don't do. It's very anti-Rongos. And it's awesome.

Don't ruin the moment.

 

[mrmovies779]

Seeing the breakdown of the contract certainly makes it easier to stomach

 

[ohbaby]

I don't think so. It's just that they wanted to upgrade center and didn't want to commit to Strome or Copp. Quite frankly I don't blame them. Trocheck is better than both.

Not by all that much. And it's risky, cause we don't know how he will play with our 11 million dollar man. Whereas Strome is a known quantity and we could have had him for less. Panarin has had his best years with him. Not with Kane or Dubois, but with Strome.

And whenever are 7-year contracts a good thing when there are other options? I was more enthused until I saw what Strome got.

I like Trocheck's style of play. Scrappy, quick, and plays a 200-foot game. And he is amped to play alongside the Breadman. Just not sure if they will jell.

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

2 to 3 years too many.

Agree but what is the alternative?

In free agency you are always overpaying to bring in a player you believe is a good fit.

Many deals today were overpayments. Drury chose term instead of hit.

I get tired of these arguments. The Rangers would have no 2c right now, with just Chytil (actually something I proposed), or Strome at 5/5 or worse.

You pay a premium to keep these guys off the other teams too…

 

[Crease]

Seeing the breakdown of the contract certainly makes it easier to stomach

Just saw the terms. Trocheck can be waived or traded (limited) after season three. Good stuff.

 

[PuckLuck3043]

Not by all that much. And it's risky, cause we don't know how he will play with our 11 million dollar man. Whereas Strome is a known quantity and we could have had him for less. Panarin had his best years with him. Not with Kane or Dubois, but with Strome.

And whenever is 7-year contracts a good thing when there are other options?

Trocheck can skate, is more physical, and plays some defense. He's much more of a complete player than Strome and that's what they were looking for. They want better 5x5 play and more defensive responsibility from that line. Strome was OK especially when we got him for Ryan Spooner but it's been pretty apparent for quite some time that they were not going to commit to him long term. 7 year contracts are a good thing when it enabled the team to get the better player. The structure of the contract is absolutely fine also and who cares about something 6 or 7 years down the road. He's a center, the contract if movable, and the cap could be 20-30 million higher by then. It's all good.

Agree but what is the alternative?

In free agency you are always overpaying to bring in a player you believe is a good fit.

Many deals today were overpayments. Drury chose term instead of hit.

I get tired of these arguments. The Rangers would have no 2c right now, with just Chytil (actually something I proposed), or Strome at 5/5 or worse.

You pay a premium to keep these guys off the other teams too…

This guy gets it. Thank you.