yrrebbor
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I don't think we could get any worse. LOL
Confirmed with Link: Vincent Trocheck signs $5.625 x 7
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NickyFotiu
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We are borderline. We added Vinnie while losing Strome, Copp and Frankie. We are still a goal or 2 from going out in the first round vs Pitt. We need to add Kane.
Chytilmania
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Would not shock me in the least to see Trocheck have a 70 point season this year, considering he stays healthy.
I'm absolutely amped that we signed him. We all talked all year about diversifying the lineup and adding players who play with pace and forecheck hard, who have wheels, who can play all situations and play that fast firewagon waterbug style - Gourde was the player most ppl keyed in on, Trocheck is basically the same style player. Trocheck is a play driver, he's a forechecker, he has good offensive instincts, he has speeed. He's going to fit in very well with Panarin.
Strome was a good Ranger but the main reason to move on from him was his style, we needed someone who played differently in his slot. Trocheck fits perfectly to me with what we were looking for, he's also a RH shot which I think works best as a center for Panarin.
I'm absolutely amped that we signed him. We all talked all year about diversifying the lineup and adding players who play with pace and forecheck hard, who have wheels, who can play all situations and play that fast firewagon waterbug style - Gourde was the player most ppl keyed in on, Trocheck is basically the same style player. Trocheck is a play driver, he's a forechecker, he has good offensive instincts, he has speeed. He's going to fit in very well with Panarin.
Strome was a good Ranger but the main reason to move on from him was his style, we needed someone who played differently in his slot. Trocheck fits perfectly to me with what we were looking for, he's also a RH shot which I think works best as a center for Panarin.
JimmyG89
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Panarin and Strome had chemistry, but Panarin carried the pair. Trocheck can hold his own weight out there. He's faster and more willing to grind than Strome. All good qualities that Panarin needs on his line.
Whoever the RW is paired with them, Lafreniere, Kakko, or Kravtsov, they all have the talent to take advantage and willingness to make a complete line.
This will also force Panarin to do different things on the ice. Similar to when Strome got hurt and he played with Copp alone. I'm inclined to play Kakko with these two, but any could work. We don't need a grindy winger to pair with Panarin since Strome is gone and Trocheck does those things. Maybe Lafreniere is the way to go. Not afraid to shoot, Trocheck crashing the net and Bread setting him up.
The term could be rough, but over the next 3-4 years I'm seeing a good 2C and can transition into a 3C in the back end of the deal when the cap is up a lot more.
Whoever the RW is paired with them, Lafreniere, Kakko, or Kravtsov, they all have the talent to take advantage and willingness to make a complete line.
This will also force Panarin to do different things on the ice. Similar to when Strome got hurt and he played with Copp alone. I'm inclined to play Kakko with these two, but any could work. We don't need a grindy winger to pair with Panarin since Strome is gone and Trocheck does those things. Maybe Lafreniere is the way to go. Not afraid to shoot, Trocheck crashing the net and Bread setting him up.
The term could be rough, but over the next 3-4 years I'm seeing a good 2C and can transition into a 3C in the back end of the deal when the cap is up a lot more.
Savant
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They already are. They are theoretically better than last year already.
I think that line is potentially a great spot for Kravtsov.
mrmovies779
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I'm not crazy about 7 years,but he is a very good upgrade over both Strome and Copp.Big physical legit center who plays well in all 3 zones is exactly the line mate Panarin needs and will flourish with.Stick KK on the other wing and you got the potential for a very nice nightmare line for other teams to have to deal with.
NickyFotiu
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Maybe slightly better but not enough. We are in a group of around 8. We need Kane to really push us up. Just adding Vinnie while losing Strome, Copp, and Frankie is not enough to make us a favorite. People forget how close we were to losing to Pitt in round 1.
Savant
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They are a favorite because of Igor. The team in front of him is theoretically better. If Drury needs to do some rental work at the deadline, when the team has more wiggle room, he will. Today he has done a very good job. People also forgot that they could have beaten Tampa with a couple of different bounces. As of right now it’s Colorado and everyone else. Rangers are in that group of eight but that’s the second tier.
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He's been a center for his entire career and we have an opening and need at center. Why would we be playing him as a winger?
The Crypto Guy
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Because Copp was suppose to be that center for us and for some reason wasn't given more than maybe a handful of shifts as center.
Kodiak
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I think the consensus is that we like the player but the term is concerning, and I agree with that. We have to win with this core because there will be a lot of dead contract weight when our young players are hitting their prime years.
Random side thought: if Trochek is significantly worse on faceoffs next year, we have to take a serious look at what our wingers are doing on faceoffs. Trochek has been over 50% for the past 7 years with 3 years over 54%. If we bring that type of player into this environment and he regresses, then either our wingers are not doing enough to help, or there's some sort of voodoo curse on our centermen in the faceoff circle.
Random side thought: if Trochek is significantly worse on faceoffs next year, we have to take a serious look at what our wingers are doing on faceoffs. Trochek has been over 50% for the past 7 years with 3 years over 54%. If we bring that type of player into this environment and he regresses, then either our wingers are not doing enough to help, or there's some sort of voodoo curse on our centermen in the faceoff circle.
GENESISPuck94
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Trocheck will magically score 70 points? lol
It's an awful contract. Absolutely brutal. Drury had to waste a 2nd round pick and more just to get rid of the horrible Nemeth contract he handed out that pales in comparison. What will he have to give away just to move Trocheck's contract in a couple years?
It's an awful contract. Absolutely brutal. Drury had to waste a 2nd round pick and more just to get rid of the horrible Nemeth contract he handed out that pales in comparison. What will he have to give away just to move Trocheck's contract in a couple years?
Speaking of wingers, we still have holes to fill but Drury just wasted 7 million and 2nd round pick and conditional picks on Trocheck, Halak, and Nemeth.
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That was with Strome still on the team though and with Copp coming in as a midseason addition. That definitely changes the math, there was no way they were moving Strome to the wing midseason and they clearly wanted Copp in the top 6.
I have no doubt Trocheck will be a center here.
NickyFotiu
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Well depends on your definition of favorite. I do not think we are good enough at this point.
If you said Strome would score 50p, I would’ve laughed too. He easily paced for 60p each year. If he plays with Panarin, 60p seems pretty reasonable.
Many thought Copp would be a center when he was traded here. He played center in Winnipeg.
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Savant
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Played a lot of wing in Winnipeg too. Especially towards the end of his tenure. The Rangers might have signed Copp if they thought he was an answer at center. They clearly don’t.
I think there is one favorite. Colorado.
Anyone else is behind.
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You mean magically do it again?
Panarin led the team in scoring by 15 points and in even-strength scoring by a pretty big margin. The prevailing negativity about him last season is wrong and tiresome.
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Term kinda blows, but if the cap starts going up massively like it’s supposed to after the next couple years, I think it won’t be as big a problem.
This is a huge upgrade on Strome. I liked Copp but his history of injuries had me worried. The term is worrying but teams find ways to get out of these contracts all the time so it really shouldn't be a big deal.
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