Confirmed with Link: Vincent Trocheck signs $5.625 x 7

[Cheapshot]

Agree but what is the alternative?

In free agency you are always overpaying to bring in a player you believe is a good fit.

Many deals today were overpayments. Drury chose term instead of hit.

I get tired of these arguments. The Rangers would have no 2c right now, with just Chytil (actually something I proposed), or Strome at 5/5 or worse.

You pay a premium to keep these guys off the other teams too…

Of course they do and he could always be buried at the end of his contract but the reason we have these conversations all the time is because eventually the contract becomes bad and we’re forced to either overpay someone to take the player or burry the player in the minors. Here’s to hoping we win it, then who really cares about cap hit and contracts.

 

[Chytilmania]

If we didn't sign Trocheck then we would all be complaining Chytil is 2C and Goodrow is 3C. Sliding them down is a massive difference.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

way better skater/forechecker. That was a major problem too

He attacks the middle of the ice.

What worries me is Panarin molding him into playing his style lol

They need to just copy the Trivago-commercials and go with the slogan:

Forecheck, backcheck, Trocheck

 

[egelband]

Panarin now has a shooter/finisher to play with.

Clearly he’s the perfect kind of center for Panarin. Love how he’s always in front of the net. The anti-Strome.

I hope it doesn't take the 3 years for it to happen but I can totally see Trocheck having a Kadri like year/post season with the Rangers that puts them over the top for a Cup win.

We are good down the middle for a while.

Yep. Suddenly the center position isn’t so dire. Still need to fill the pipeline but this buys the rangers a few seasons.

 

[Chytilmania]

Clearly he’s the perfect kind of center for Panarin. Love how he’s always in front of the net. The anti-Strome.

I'd have to watch all of Strome's goals but half the time I was watching that I kept thinking Strome would not score there.
He will also pull the trigger and can beat the goalie like Vatrano. No more missed open nets, passing up shots or shots into the chest.

 

[Levitate]

I like Trocheck's style of play. Scrappy, quick, and plays a 200-foot game. And he is amped to play alongside the Breadman. Just not sure if they will jell. Cause we have seen a few guys that haven't, i.e,.. Kakko, Frankie V, etc...

But honestly these long-term contracts are a killer. Maybe his is a bit more flexible, but 7 years for at best a 2C or 3C? Kreids, Trouba, Panarin, Zibad, Fox and now Trocheck? How are we gonna lock up Miller and Laffy moving forward? You guys know more about this than I do, but I remember years past when Slats handed out these contracts like candy. And it looks like history is repeating itself.

eh, it's just how it is now. You want to get players (including your own RFAs) to sign and stay with you? It takes term and it takes some no trade/movement clauses

if you want to compete in the NHL and market for players you can't just say "well I'm only offering 4 years and no movement clauses because we want to ship you out the second we dont' think you're performing!" because then players won't sign at all.

I think most players realize to some extent the tail end of their contract is something that might end up being moved as teams need to create space, they just want some control over it as well.

 

[NickyFotiu]

I don't contest that. He's an upgrade to both Strome and Copp.

My issue comes from what happened with Nemeth. This could be me over thinking it.

But moving Nemeth required sacrificing two 2nd round picks. Arizona would be stupid to opt for the 3rd instead of the 2nd. And Nemeth's contract only has 2 years left.

What happens when we realize Trocheck isn't getting us past Tampa and Colorado? What will have to be attached to him to move his contract?

I don't think Trocheck puts us over the top.

I understand the sticker shock regarding Nemeth but I had to look at the present value of those picks. The present value is much lower than the value of picks 3-4 years away. If a picks value drops 8-9 spots per year then you multiply that by 3 years then what is the present value of that second round pick. Say we were going to draft at #55 in the second round today. Then you add 24 spots (8 spots times 3 years) to that pick which puts it at #77 in todays value. So in todays value that pick would be a 3rd round pick imo.

 

[Machinehead]

If you told me his name is "Kegz," he's in Phi Beta Omega, and he's on the lacrosse team, I wouldn't bat an eye.

They need to just copy the Trivago-commercials and go with the slogan:

Forecheck, backcheck, Trocheck

Playoff avatar idea

 

[bhamill]

So, 3 years NMC, last four years limited no trade 12-10-6-6 team list.
I find this VERY acceptable.
IMO, this is an excellent signing with a completely manageable contract.

 

[fm]

Lol

 

[pld459666]

I guess we'll see what sort of usage he gets, but it's entirely possible he's a 70 point player here

Hes done it before. No reason he can't do it again

 

[Savant]

I'd argue this point. I like the player, but this has Dolan written all over it. Trocheck vs us was a beast. It just seems reactionary. And that concerns me. After great strides this season, now we do this?

This contract is ugly. Either immediately or later.

UFA contracts are rarely not ugly. But every time the Rangers spend money on a guy it isn’t a Dolan thing. Dolan thing would have been throwing everything at Kadri or Kane. Not sure why you think this is a Dolan move other than it was expensive. Don’t seem how this is reactionary either. They evaluated what the had in house. Knew it wasn’t good enough and paid for an upgrade.

 

[MrAlmost]

If Chytil proves to be the real deal, this is even better cause he becomes a really good 3C. This season should be interesting again.

 

[patnyrnyg]

Dude u nailed it
This is all GG's influence
He's gonna kill any chance for us winning
Tro is a 3C, 2C when injuries occur
He was invisible against us in 6 PO games
In 2 years when some actually great Centers are available we aint getting any of them
And laffy may get offer sheet next summer
Ugh..

He led Carolina in goals and SOG in that series. That is invisible?

GREAT centers are never available as UFA's as their teams take care of them before they get to UFA status.

 

[rangersfansince08]

Trocheck will hopefully find that 70 pt form playing with Panarin and on a good PP.

 

[patnyrnyg]

I would have preferred Malkin for 3 years BUT this shows Drury understands the assignment. I say that despite not liking Troschek deal past 3-4 years. Drury understands we still need much more toughness in our top 6, more inside the hashmark players, more faceoff wins and better defense. Still he was my 4th choice. I do not blame Drury. His hands are kind of tied by our cap. I do prefer him over Strome and Copp.

I would prefer McDavid for 10 years, but neither he nor Malkin where available when the FA signing period began.

We are borderline. We added Vinnie while losing Strome, Copp and Frankie. We are still a goal or 2 from going out in the first round vs Pitt. We need to add Kane.

And 1 goal from going to the Cup Finals.

 

[patnyrnyg]

what I love is he's a beast in the faceoff circle. We have been terrible there ...

A beast? He averaged 8.4 FO wins per game last year and 7 FO losses per game. An extra 1.4 wins per game make him "a beast"?

 

[haohmaru]

Trocheck is a better 2C than either Copp or Strome. It’s that easy. This is a competitive/fair contract that’ll look freaking awesome in two years when this guy is putting up 50-70 points playing with Panarin every season and winning draws.

 

[patnyrnyg]

NTC: 12 teams in year 5, 10 teams in year 6, 6 teams in 6 and 7. He's obviously not going anywhere the first 3 years anyway and it's a low team count on the NTCs, but man, this team sure does love handing out NMC and NTCs.

It is not just the Rangers. Seeing it everywhere, I thinki cap friendly used to have it broken down by team, not sure if they still do. Players want it, most likely for the family. An M-NTC is not so bad, it is the full NMC's that can be killers.

 

[NickyFotiu]

I would prefer McDavid for 10 years, but neither he nor Malkin where available when the FA signing period began.


And 1 goal from going to the Cup Finals.

1 goal? We lost 4 games to 2.

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

People on here have been pining for a Gourde or Cirelli type player to be our 2c for the past few years and now we sign a player in Trocheck who is 100% in the same mold as each of them stylistically and better than both IMO (and younger than Gourde to boot) and people are still complaining? We're in the contending phase of this build now, we should be excited to get good players who improve our team instead of fretting over the contract being a year or two too long, especially considering the contract is very movable after year 3.

A very good player is now locked in as our 2C for the rest of Shesterkin's contract.

 

[Trxjw]

I really like Trocheck. Plays the exact kind of game you want between Panarin and Kakko and gives us a different look down the middle while also providing speed there. He can get to the dirty areas and create space, then find soft spots in coverage and finish. 7 years isn't ideal but I like the contract structure.

What I don't like is that as long as Panarin is here, this likely spells the beginning of the end for Chytil in NY. The kid line is going to get broken up to ensure Kakko and Laf get top-six minutes and Chytil is going to get stuck centering the "other guys" rotation on the 3rd line.

 

[Thirty One]

Finally. Rangers have never replaced Vinny Prospal's tan.

 

[bhamill]

NYR add a 2C in the mold we NEED, WITHOUT GIVING UP ASSETS that can now be used for further improvement.
It's a manageable contract with a reasonable cap hit, that is moveable after 3 years.
And people are f***ing complaining. Hahaha.
I guess it would be so much better to give up Kakko, Nils and a 1st for one season of JTM (at albeit a lower cap hit, IF Vancouver would retain, and that is a big if.)

 

[bhamill]

I really like Trocheck. Plays the exact kind of game you want between Panarin and Kakko and gives us a different look down the middle while also providing speed there. He can get to the dirty areas and create space, then find soft spots in coverage and finish. 7 years isn't ideal but I like the contract structure.

What I don't like is that as long as Panarin is here, this likely spells the beginning of the end for Chytil in NY. The kid line is going to get broken up to ensure Kakko and Laf get top-six minutes and Chytil is going to get stuck centering the "other guys" rotation on the 3rd line.

Well, one of those other guys is Kravtsov so Fil should break 70 points without trying, right EdJo?
In all seriousness, there are always injuries and Fil can play up at center or wing. And maybe in two years when he is a ripe old age of 24 or 25 he will supplant the 2C, whether its Trocheck or someone else at that point.