Friedman: Gibson is interested in Carolina or Edmonton

[Zegs2sendhelp]

People don’t want to sign/re-sign in Anaheim because they want to win. Making the team worse by trading Gibson for peanuts doesn’t make us more likely to win, so it’s actually making it less likely decent players will sign. It’s not like they’ll be saying “I can sign in Anaheim for an overpayment and a restrictive NTC/NMC, because I know that then Anaheim will trade me where I want to actually go!”.

Free agents don’t re-sign with crappy teams because they are crappy teams with low-to-zero Cup chances, not because they won’t trade their NTC players for a loss when they want out.

Don’t think gibson makes us a cup contender…. And were not going to be cup contenders by end of his contract.

He’s got value right now…. Def could be time to look that way(or draft)

 

[Frank Drebin]

This would be fine and honorable for Verbeek to do if Gibson wants out. However, there has to be a line drawn where Gibson needs to understand it’s not happening unless certain criteria is met. Even though I don’t necessarily agree, giving him up for a blah return is one thing. But trading him simply to honor his request if it costs them assets or a retention slot or anything else negative for them, makes completely no sense for them to do. Gibson is a big boy and makes a hefty paycheck so if the market isn’t interested in him without it costing the Ducks then he needs to pull up his big boy pants and continue playing like he has value so that a trade can eventually happen for him.

I agree. All I'm saying is I'm not sure if Verbeek gets an underwhelming yet somewhat palatable offer from an interested he may bite on it as a sign of appreciation to gibson.

 

[Crazy8oooo]

I agree. All I'm saying is I'm not sure if Verbeek gets an underwhelming yet somewhat palatable offer from an interested he may bite on it as a sign of appreciation to gibson.

It’s a tough call. Doing right by the player sometimes is the honorable move. But I’m not so sure they really owe him at this point. I was a big Gibson fan for quite awhile, even when he started falling off. But the more he started displaying negative body language and showing his frustrations by seemingly giving up, the less I appreciated him as a fan. I still love Gibby but feel like he’s “made his bed” in a sense and therefore needs to continue to improve his worth to get him back to a respectable value. He’s been brutalized by the Ducks’ ineptness the past few years but giving up on them isn’t the professional way to react, especially when he’s been getting paid so well. Tough call on the honorable thing to do part.

 

[FiveTacos]

It’s a tough call. Doing right by the player sometimes is the honorable move. But I’m not so sure they really owe him at this point. I was a big Gibson fan for quite awhile, even when he started falling off. But the more he started displaying negative body language and showing his frustrations by seemingly giving up, the less I appreciated him as a fan. I still love Gibby but feel like he’s “made his bed” in a sense and therefore needs to continue to improve his worth to get him back to a respectable value. He’s been brutalized by the Ducks’ ineptness the past few years but giving up on them isn’t the professional way to react, especially when he’s been getting paid so well. Tough call on the honorable thing to do part.

I think a "lateral" trade to do him a favor is one thing. A trade to do him a favor while getting zero benefit in return, OTOH, is not something they owe him.

 

[Ducks DVM]

Don’t think gibson makes us a cup contender…. And were not going to be cup contenders by end of his contract.

He’s got value right now…. Def could be time to look that way(or draft)

Gibson DOES make the team win more, which gets the team a chance to get closer to/into the playoffs, which DOES improve the chances of free agents wanting to actually sign in Anaheim. Picks which are statistically unlikely to ever be NHL players, and who best case scenario won’t be in the NHL for 3-5 years, not so much. I think you’re trying to argue that those picks can be flipped for trade purposes, but I’m not convinced that Verbeek still isn’t the new guy being taken advantage of on every trade, and don’t see him actually replacing what Gibson is currently bringing to the team.

 

[gilfaizon]

Another rough one for Skinner

 

[Zerotonine]

Man if Edmonton doesn't make a move for goaltending in the next few weeks they don't get out of round 1. Esp with the Avalanche possible first round match up....

 

[nturn06]

While Stuart Skinner has a bad season this year, his numbers this season are better than Gibson's numbers in the previous two seasons. Why do people think that Gibson would be an improvement?

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Question: Could CAR afford both Gibson and Andersen? (or rather, would they want both on the cap?)
*I'm also assuming they'll want to keep Kochetkov


My feeling on this is *IF* Anaheim decides to move Gibson, they'd prefer to send him out east vs. having him be the starter for a division rival for several seasons. But if they have to take Andersen back, I could see them flipping him to EDM (something that'd also likely be closer to the Oilers' wanted price point for a goalie).

 

[Martin Skoula]

I have a soft spot for Carolina on paper as long as I don’t actually have to watch their sleep inducing system, Gibson would be them trying to be the smartest guy in the room again and getting a decent but not game changing result. Find next years Stolarz in UFA or find a way to get Shesterkin, enough half measures.

 

[Rubi]

While Stuart Skinner has a bad season this year, his numbers this season are better than Gibson's numbers in the previous two seasons. Why do people think that Gibson would be an improvement?

You seriously believe that Gibson wouldn't be an improvement over Skinner this season?

 

[Rubi]

Skinner in net tonight in Philly. Oilers lose 6-3.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Skinner in net tonight in Philly. Oilers lose 6-3.

Gibson had a pretty good game in Boston

 

[VeteranPresence]

Gibson injured now. Losing him beyond the deadline to injury would be chef’s kiss after all the Ducks fans stomping their feet about how he is untouchable.

 

[Emerald Duck]

Gibson injured now. Losing him beyond the deadline to injury would be chef’s kiss after all the Ducks fans stomping their feet about how he is untouchable.

Not really. If Gibson became unavailable past the trade deadline then many Ducks fans are happy to keep him until the offseason and avoid a trade deadline panic deal.

A better question for the "chef's kiss" would be what happens to teams who need a goalie upgrade and think they can squeeze the Ducks for unknown futures or for another team's failed starter and a bag of Four Nations McDavid autographed sticks and pucks.

Financially the Ducks don't have to trade him. Opinions vary on whether or not the team "owes him a solid" and need to trade him to a contender that Gibson would accept.

 

[VeteranPresence]

Not really. If Gibson became unavailable past the trade deadline then many Ducks fans are happy to keep him until the offseason and avoid a trade deadline panic deal.

AKA have him from slightly positive value back to a net negative. Bold strategy.

A better question for the "chef's kiss" would be what happens to teams who need a goalie upgrade and think they can squeeze the Ducks for unknown futures or for another team's failed starter and a bag of Four Nations McDavid autographed sticks and pucks.

This again would be an objectively better return than paying another team to take him, which was the reality before this season and will end up being the case once more if his numbers crater again next year.

The Ducks may have lost their window to move Gibson period. It would be well-earned after all the chest puffing around here.

 

[Three On Zero]

AKA have him from slightly positive value back to a net negative. Bold strategy.



This again would be an objectively better return than paying another team to take him, which was the reality before this season and will end up being the case once more if his numbers crater again next year.

The Ducks may have lost their window to move Gibson period. It would be well-earned after all the chest puffing around here.

The ducks never had a window to move him because they’ve had no interest in moving him.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

Gibson injured now. Losing him beyond the deadline to injury would be chef’s kiss after all the Ducks fans stomping their feet about how he is untouchable.

Quote any post that called him untouchable or anything remotely close to that

 

[VeteranPresence]

The ducks never had a window to move him because they’ve had no interest in moving him.

“It’s not that anyone doesn’t want to go near my radiated toxic waste, it’s just that I have no interest in moving it!!!”

Gibson’s contract was the cap equivalent of Chernobyl before this year. It wasn’t some brilliant management tactic not trading him.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Gibson injured now. Losing him beyond the deadline to injury would be chef’s kiss after all the Ducks fans stomping their feet about how he is untouchable.

I don’t recall duck fans calling him untouchable….

We’re all openly talking about trading him in this thread…. All that’s ever been stated is there really is no rush/time table to move him… he’s having a strong season and helping us win games. If anything this season has proved what duck fans have said all along, he’s not washed.

“It’s not that anyone doesn’t want to go near my radiated toxic waste, it’s just that I have no interest in moving it!!!”

Gibson’s contract was the cap equivalent of Chernobyl before this year. It wasn’t some brilliant management tactic not trading him.

if it was Chernobyl, why were teams constantly calling on it even before his number went back to normal this year?

Could it be teams saw the same thing as Anaheim fans? And we’re hoping to snag him at a discount

 

[Three On Zero]

“It’s not that anyone doesn’t want to go near my radiated toxic waste, it’s just that I have no interest in moving it!!!”

Gibson’s contract was the cap equivalent of Chernobyl before this year. It wasn’t some brilliant management tactic not trading him.

His contract has never been an issue for Anaheim