Proposal: Trouba to Montreal for Sergachev+1st

[Snowman]

Well, CharlesHahs fan wanted to get a reasonable discussion of what Trouba's value is but it seems like most Habs fans only want to hear what they want to hear.

However, no matter which way you want to think about it, Sergachev on his own won't even get Montreal in the door in trade talks for Trouba. Just accept it and move on.

 

[Ohashi_Jouzu*]

Well, CharlesHahs fan wanted to get a reasonable discussion of what Trouba's value is but it seems like most Habs fans only want to hear what they want to hear.

However, no matter which way you want to think about it, Sergachev on his own won't even get Montreal in the door in trade talks for Trouba. Just accept it and move on.

Sergachev, as it stands right now, projects as a better player than Trouba. Same for other young guys with little/no current NHL experience from Werenski, to Hanifin, to Provorov, etc. Jets fans need to accept that and move on.

 

[ffh]

Sergachev, as it stands right now, projects as a better player than Trouba. Same for other young guys with little/no current NHL experience from Werenski, to Hanifin, to Provorov, etc. Jets fans need to accept that and move on.

Key word projects.

 

[Flair Hay]

If anything, Sergachev projects to be exactly what Trouba is now.

 

[Ohashi_Jouzu*]

If anything, Sergachev projects to be exactly what Trouba is now.

I think everyone putting their name to a professional opinion projects Sergachev with significantly higher offensive upside.

 

[CharlesHabsFan]

Well, CharlesHahs fan wanted to get a reasonable discussion of what Trouba's value is but it seems like most Habs fans only want to hear what they want to hear.

However, no matter which way you want to think about it, Sergachev on his own won't even get Montreal in the door in trade talks for Trouba. Just accept it and move on.

Honestly as a Habs fan, I said that Sergachev + 1st 2017 is good value for Trouba. Obviously, for organizational needs, it doesn't make sense as pretty much 10 pages shown so far...

So the idea was more to go around and see what else could be in the range of Trouba's value.

If I remember, Jets right now are in a situation where they need NHL ready talent, so I suppose Trouba for Lehkonen or McCarron doesn't make big sense. McCarron is probably NHL ready now, though.

Not like it make a lot of sense for us, but what about something around Petry + a middle 6 roster forward ?

 

[Ohashi_Jouzu*]

Not like it make a lot of sense for us, but what about something around Petry + a middle 6 roster forward ?

That's probably closer.

 

[JetsHomer]

Pretty much. Plus or minus a minor addition. Certainly not more than Sergachev straight up right now.

Sergachev will be lucky if he's ever as good as Trouba is right now at 22

 

[Hunter368]

Why is this even being debated?

Habs have no need for rhd?

Jets would never trade a 22 yr #2/3 Dman for a unproven prospect.

Both teams say no.

 

[Snowman]

Not like it make a lot of sense for us, but what about something around Petry + a middle 6 roster forward ?

Nope. We wouldn't take a downgrade to go to Petry and a foward that would hold no value to us.

 

[kingdok]

Sergachev will be lucky if he's ever as good as Trouba is right now at 22

He just has to be the 2nd or third best defenseman (don't want to enter a Trouba/Rielly debate, and I think H.Lindholm is better then both) of his draft class really. He was taken 2nd dman so odds are on his side.

 

[Gump Hasek]

An opinion is saying that Sergachev + 1st for Trouba is an atrocious deal for Montreal (which is basically fact but I'll let that slide

Still a gigantic pass from Winnipeg, FYI.

The Jets wouldn't be moving Trouba solely in exchange for futures if they ever decided to trade him.

 

[Hunter368]

Still a gigantic pass from Winnipeg, FYI.

The Jets wouldn't be moving Trouba solely in exchange for futures if they ever decided to trade him.

Agreed

 

[broc]

Sergachev, as it stands right now, projects as a better player than Trouba. Same for other young guys with little/no current NHL experience from Werenski, to Hanifin, to Provorov, etc. Jets fans need to accept that and move on.

Lottery ticket vs established high end D being held back b/c of top end depth in Winnipeg.

Lots of highly touted 1st rounders fizzle out. So it doesn't matter what anyone "projects" to be. In troubas draft and draft +1 years, there will be tons of glowing projections too. And sergachevs will be basically comparable to them.

 

[jacks*]

Sergachev will be lucky if he's ever as good as Trouba is right now at 22

Well he was much better during their draft season while playing in a much better league.
Trouba's draft season: 14 points in 32 games in the USDP
Sergachev's draft season: 57 points in 67 games in the OHL

I'd be pretty pissed of if he only achieved Troube's level but than again your right and the REST of the board is wrong.


We will gladly keep Sergachev .

 

[Legend123]

Well he was much better during their draft season while playing in a much better league.
Trouba's draft season: 14 points in 32 games in the USDP
Sergachev's draft season: 57 points in 67 games in the OHL

I'd be pretty pissed of if he only achieved Troube's level but than again your right and the REST of the board is wrong.


We will gladly keep Sergachev .

Well said, if segechev turns into Trouba ill be really disappointed. That will truly suck, esp after the year the habs just had.

 

[lomiller1]

Sergachev, as it stands right now, projects as a better player than Trouba.

No he doesn't. In fact it's unlike he's ever going to be as good as Trouba is already.

 

[jacks*]

Sergachev, as it stands right now, projects as a better player than Trouba. Same for other young guys with little/no current NHL experience from Werenski, to Hanifin, to Provorov, etc. Jets fans need to accept that and move on.

No he doesn't. In fact it's unlike he's ever going to be as good as Trouba is already.

Trouba's draft season: 14 points in 32 games in the USDP
Sergachev's draft season: 57 points in 67 games in the OHL

Now looking at those stats please tell us which one projects to be better.
You do know what i mean by projects?

 

[ffh]

Trouba's draft season: 14 points in 32 games in the USDP
Sergachev's draft season: 57 points in 67 games in the OHL

Now looking at those stats please tell us which one projects to be better.
You do know what i mean by projects?

a lot of the usdp games are tournaments against the best players in the world. also colleges not 16 year olds. that's why no one that plays there has numbers like in the chl . because if they did they would go 1st oa.

 

[Legend123]

a lot of the usdp games are tournaments against the best players in the world. also colleges not 16 year olds. that's why no one that plays there has numbers like in the chl . because if they did they would go 1st oa.

under 18

 

[HCH]

Since Sergachev is going to be the better defenseman very shortly, the first should be going the other way.

 

[HCH]

No he doesn't. In fact it's unlike he's ever going to be as good as Trouba is already.

Sorry but you are wrong.

 

[Legend123]

Since Sergachev is going to be the better defenseman very shortly, the first should be going the other way.

pff still No deal. Habs dont need Trouba

 

[HOPE]

i dont get what is all the hype about trouba? i understand that hes smart and strong two-way dmen, he hasnt prove at all that he could be a top2 Dmen, hes production went down every year, i understand he doesnt play top minutes but hes no more than a top4 until he proves otherwise, you're only has good has your last season and to me trouva hasnt shown much more than beaulieu yet everyones bashes on him saying he has no value. i woulnt even be suprise if beaulieu ends up being the better two-way Dman.

 

[ffh]

under 18

your boy was under 18 last year wasn't he or is he a overager.