Trouba proves he’s the biggest joke in the league

[Strangle]

Obviously he’s not making the connection, that’s the point of my post.


Like it’s absurd that Trouba is actively trying to blow players heads off when he plays then hops on twitter crying about people saying he sucks and shouldn’t be a team captain. Get help if the criticism bothers you, but also maybe stop trying to hurt players asshole.

What do you think your flying elbows are doing to players mental health dickhead?

I can’t stand people who think mental health issues are like popping an aspirin for a headache.

“Get help….” As if there is anything that can cure your mental health.

 

[HanSolo]

I literally guarantee you wouldn’t call Trouba a POS to his face. Take off the superman cape buddy

What exactly do you think you accomplished with this? Either, you wouldn't call Trouba that to his face cause he'd beat your ass. Okay cool, so we're establishing he's unhinged and violent. Or, you shouldn't call people things unless you're willing to say it to their face? So if Hitler was around today I shouldn't call him a piece of shit unless I'd be ready to face a firing squad for saying it to his face? Obviously an absurdist example but it's an absurd defense.

Penguins fans should get the f*** over what Trouba did to their team is my takeaway from this thread lol

Rangers fans spend a lot of time defending a guy they claim to not want on their team is my takeaway from this and many other threads.

 

[MikeyMike01]

I can’t stand people who think mental health issues are like popping an aspirin for a headache.

“Get help….” As if there is anything that can cure your mental health.

Many common mental health disorders are extremely treatable. That’s the most unfortunate part.

 

[HanSolo]

I can’t stand people who think mental health issues are like popping an aspirin for a headache.

“Get help….” As if there is anything that can cure your mental health.

Who said it was easy? Therapy, stepping away from negative triggers, refocusing on things that bring joy and balance out stressors is a valid option to help with mental health that takes time, willingness and commitment but thankfully for Trouba, he makes a multimillion dollar salary making it a lot easier to step away from the game and achieve these things.

 

[K Fleur]

I can’t stand people who think mental health issues are like popping an aspirin for a headache.

“Get help….” As if there is anything that can cure your mental health.

Yeah that’s obviously not what I said or meant.

In Trouba’s case he has access to all the resources in the world to help him deal with his own mental health.

So seek out help and at the same time stop f***ing elbowing people in the head.

 

[Voight]

I wonder if Trouba refers his victims to his wife for when their brains start to deteriorate in 15 years. That’s just solid financial planning.

4D Chess

 

[AirGut]

"Step up" lol. He launched himself like a zooted out trapeze artist, the same way he did all those other (attempted) hits.

Truly what I found most comical about your initial post, was that Trouba only tries to make these hits out of some sense of retribution for supposed dirty plays by the opposition. That's just a plain lie, as shown above.

this is a violent sport and Trouba especially as a defenseman doesn't have to abide by your boy-scout fan logic, he has every right to try and execute those plays just like every other player has the same right. No player in this league should have moral qualms over this, in fact every GM in this league goes out of their way to make sure they can acquire guys like that year in year out, so why are you types so hard-pressed over it?

Where was this bitching when Bennett suckered Marchand just last month or any of the other millions of small dirty plays that get made over the course of an entire NHL season? Why is there so much dog-piling on Jacob? People like you act as though Trouba is the only person in this league that plays the game this way, that he's some enigma and that he doesn't belong in the sport because he "hurts" and he needs to be cast out or exiled. At the end of the day the golden goose Gary doesn't see any of this as a problem, the game is dirty by nature and that will never change.

Players like Trouba will continue on unless you just want to cut to the chase and start advocating for the inclusion of INT rules, which I already know most of you in this thread want to happen anyways and that's why you hate Trouba's hits in the first place.

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

this is a violent sport and Trouba especially as a defenseman doesn't have to abide by your boy-scout fan logic, he has every right to try and execute those plays just like every other player has the same right. No player in this league should have moral qualms over this simple fact and when you got a guy like Trouba on your team you know you can dog it out against anyone that wants to also get chippy and play that tempo, in fact every GM in this league goes out of their way to make sure they can acquire guys like that year in year out, so why are you types so hard-pressed over it?

Where was this bitching when Bennett suckered Marchand just last month or any of the other millions of small dirty plays that get made over the course of an entire NHL season? Why is there so much dog-piling on Jacob? People like you act as though Trouba is the only person in this league that plays the game this way, that he's some enigma and that he doesn't belong in the sport because he "hurts" and he needs to be cast out or exiled. At the end of the day the golden goose Gary doesn't see any of this as a problem, the game is dirty by nature and that will never change.

Players like Trouba will continue on unless you just want to cut to the chase and start advocating for the inclusion of INT rules, which I already know most of you in this thread want to happen anyways and that's why you hate Trouba's hits in the first place.

First it was the Scott Stevens whatabouttisms and now it goes to Sam Bennett. Newsflash, Sam Bennett isn't the one who made this statement lmao. People would rip him to shreds for doing the same thing. And people have called Florida dirty over the past couple of years without Florida fans/players getting up in arms about it.

 

[HanSolo]

this is a violent sport and Trouba especially as a defenseman doesn't have to abide by your boy-scout fan logic, he has every right to try and execute those plays just like every other player has the same right. No player in this league should have moral qualms over this, in fact every GM in this league goes out of their way to make sure they can acquire guys like that year in year out, so why are you types so hard-pressed over it?

Where was this bitching when Bennett suckered Marchand just last month or any of the other millions of small dirty plays that get made over the course of an entire NHL season? Why is there so much dog-piling on Jacob? People like you act as though Trouba is the only person in this league that plays the game this way, that he's some enigma and that he doesn't belong in the sport because he "hurts" and he needs to be cast out or exiled. At the end of the day the golden goose Gary doesn't see any of this as a problem, the game is dirty by nature and that will never change.

Players like Trouba will continue on unless you just want to cut to the chase and start advocating for the inclusion of INT rules, which I already know most of you in this thread want to happen anyways and that's why you hate Trouba's hits in the first place.

One of the more colorful defenses of hits to the head I've ever read. Thank you.

 

[Voight]

Pasha is a troll, most of his comments are just fuel engagement just like that entire podcast is. It's the social media world where hot takes and saying weird shit is absurdly the elixir to getting a viral clip. That being said, there's nothing wrong with what he said. He didn't demean his wife's job, all he said he was that Trouba should know better about the dangers of brain injuries considering his wife works in that field with the way that Trouba plays.



Well said, the podcast is garbage, and anyone listens to it, well that's that their issue.

SC is good for their interviews most of the time, but other than that I agree it sucks. Hearing them talk hockey is no different or better than hearing the guys at your local pub talk.

 

[Dennis Reynolds]

Is that something you can buy in Canada?

It wouldn’t surprise me to be honest

Same aisle as milk in a baeg.

 

[AirGut]

First it was the Scott Stevens whatabouttisms and now it goes to Sam Bennett. Newsflash, Sam Bennett isn't the one who made this statement lmao. People would rip him to shreds for doing the same thing. And people have called Florida dirty over the past couple of years without Florida fans/players getting up in arms about it.

Never once mentioned Stevens, and what I'm talking about with Bennett is that sucker punch to the jaw didn't bring HFboards to seethe about him the same way some of you do with Trouba.

Marchand was right on the money with what he said, but why does Trouba bring more people to rage online than Bennett when both of these players play similar greasy games?

 

[AirGut]

One of the more colorful defenses of hits to the head I've ever read. Thank you.

I mean am I wrong? What f***ing sport are we watching here man? I think people need to re-evaluate why they love this sport in the first place and it stems from men sacrificing bodies including their own. That is not lost on anyone don't get it twisted. Trouba is exactly a part of why this sport is beloved.

 

[SomeDude]

Is that something you can buy in Canada?

It wouldn’t surprise me to be honest

What do you think hot dogs are made out of?

 

[SnowblindNYR]

So instead of thinking, I wonder if this guy is suicidal or depressed your first thought was "LMAO f*** Trouba!" Anyway, there has been conjecture he was thinking more of Miller who had a mental health break during the year.

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

Never once mentioned Stevens, and what I'm talking about with Bennett is that sucker punch to the jaw didn't bring HFboards to seethe about him the same way some of you do with Trouba.

Marchand was right on the money with what he said, but why does Trouba bring more people to rage online than Bennett when both of these players play similar greasy games?

Another Rags fan brought it up in the thread so it's just continuing the thread of avoiding the actual topic of this thread. What Bennett did was equally wrong, bringing it up as some sort of defense to Trouba is pure whatabouttism. Happy?

So instead of thinking, I wonder if this guy is suicidal or depressed your first thought was "LMAO f*** Trouba!" Anyway, there has been conjecture he was thinking more of Miller who had a mental health break during the year.

Would you feel the same if Scott Stevens or Derian Hatcher did this back in the day with social media? It's the same shit. Trouba can talk about it, sure that's his right, but people are gonna ridicule and point to his on ice antics as to why it looks hypocritical.

 

[HanSolo]

I mean am I wrong? What f***ing sport are we watching here man? I think people need to re-evaluate why they love this sport in the first place and it stems from men sacrificing bodies including their own. That is not lost on anyone don't get it twisted. Trouba is exactly a part of why this sport is beloved.

You can sacrifice the body without sacrificing long term health though? This is an absolutely insane take. It's one thing to recover from bruises and even broken bones. CTE is another matter and if you actually read into what a lot of these guys experience with CTE, I doubt you'd be so cavalier about it. Obviously there's the potential for brain damage from repeated checks but serious cases of CTE stem from repeated trauma directly to the head. I don't believe direct and intentional hits to the head belong in the game nor should they be celebrated. The only reason it ever was something worth wanting to see is there wasn't enough knowledge on the long term impacts.

If you're still stuck hoping to see guys get their bell rung because of the entertainment value it gives you in disregard of the individual health impact then just say you're bankrupt of empathy and move on.

 

[bigdog16]

What exactly do you think you accomplished with this? Either, you wouldn't call Trouba that to his face cause he'd beat your ass. Okay cool, so we're establishing he's unhinged and violent. Or, you shouldn't call people things unless you're willing to say it to their face? So if Hitler was around today I shouldn't call him a piece of shit unless I'd be ready to face a firing squad for saying it to his face? Obviously an absurdist example but it's an absurd defense.

Rangers fans spend a lot of time defending a guy they claim to not want on their team is my takeaway from this and many other threads.

So you think its perfectly ok to walk up to a random stranger on the street, call him a dbag POS, and then just expect nothing to come of it? But if he reacts he is unhinged and violent?

 

[Jersey Fresh]

this is a violent sport and Trouba especially as a defenseman doesn't have to abide by your boy-scout fan logic, he has every right to try and execute those plays just like every other player has the same right. No player in this league should have moral qualms over this, in fact every GM in this league goes out of their way to make sure they can acquire guys like that year in year out, so why are you types so hard-pressed over it?

Where was this bitching when Bennett suckered Marchand just last month or any of the other millions of small dirty plays that get made over the course of an entire NHL season? Why is there so much dog-piling on Jacob? People like you act as though Trouba is the only person in this league that plays the game this way, that he's some enigma and that he doesn't belong in the sport because he "hurts" and he needs to be cast out or exiled. At the end of the day the golden goose Gary doesn't see any of this as a problem, the game is dirty by nature and that will never change.

Players like Trouba will continue on unless you just want to cut to the chase and start advocating for the inclusion of INT rules, which I already know most of you in this thread want to happen anyways and that's why you hate Trouba's hits in the first place.

First it was "he only does it in retribution for opposing players making dirty plays", now it's "he has every right to do it, you boy-scout"? Generally I suggest sticking to just one poorly thought out rationalization at a time, because when you backpedal and goal-post shift that quickly your argument looks pretty weak.

At no point has anyone said Trouba is the only player in the league that has, or is capable of, making dirty plays (hell, you've got another guy on your team we could talk about piling up a pretty historic concussions to games played ratio). That seems more like another attempt to shift the conversation. The problem is Trouba is the one that does it the most consistently and frankly, the most egregiously. You're right about one thing, the league has let it get to this point by not infracting Trouba more often than they have.

I think when the entire league's fans are echoing the same sentiment, you should probably take a little more stock of the situation, rather than just reflexively calling everyone a snowflake boy-scout.

 

[TheDawnOfANewTage]

Sorry if this hurts your feelings Jacob, but using someone else’s death to dodge all criticism and say “don’t make fun of me” is disgusting. You have no clue what led to that tragedy, you don’t know his or his family’s pain, do not use that to score points. I’m sure you feel you’re right and justified- you aren’t. You’re feeling bad for yourself and viewing it very myopically. Don’t do that. You’re missing the point like you often miss your intentionally injurious checks.

 

[Jersey Fresh]

Another Rags fan brought it up in the thread so it's just continuing the thread of avoiding the actual topic of this thread. What Bennett did was equally wrong, bringing it up as some sort of defense to Trouba is pure whatabouttism. Happy?



Would you feel the same if Scott Stevens or Derian Hatcher did this back in the day with social media? It's the same shit. Trouba can talk about it, sure that's his right, but people are gonna ridicule and point to his on ice antics as to why it looks hypocritical.

It's a completely different conversation if Trouba came out and actually said that. Instead, nothing in his statement actually intimates that this is something he's dealing with. And on top of that, he (pretty grossly in my opinion) brought up a guy that committed suicide not even two weeks ago as some sort of rebuttal to some guy criticizing his play with some mean words. Leveraging Grayson Murray to try and make a point is disgusting, IMO.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Another Rags fan brought it up in the thread so it's just continuing the thread of avoiding the actual topic of this thread. What Bennett did was equally wrong, bringing it up as some sort of defense to Trouba is pure whatabouttism. Happy?



Would you feel the same if Scott Stevens or Derian Hatcher did this back in the day with social media? It's the same shit. Trouba can talk about it, sure that's his right, but people are gonna ridicule and point to his on ice antics as to why it looks hypocritical.

I mean, I'm pretty sure every Rangers fan that isn't just about muh hitz and muh big wants Trouba gone next year. But reading that could be interpreted as him dealing with depression and possibly being suicidal. Would I treat Scott Stevens and Derian Hatcher as a human in this situation and hope he doesn't do anything to hurt himself? Yes.

 

[ClydeLee]

Never once mentioned Stevens, and what I'm talking about with Bennett is that sucker punch to the jaw didn't bring HFboards to seethe about him the same way some of you do with Trouba.

Marchand was right on the money with what he said, but why does Trouba bring more people to rage online than Bennett when both of these players play similar greasy games?

The Bennet hit thread was 20 pages long.

You get the more you or other Rangers fans exist and defend Trouba, that makes more posts. Maybe you only remember those because it's about the team you care about?

Tom Wilson and Marchand used to get ire, they haven't had more than a controversial hit or 2 in a couple years. And Marchand has shown self awareness lately and to some, they got respect there. Plenty didn't care Bennett hit him for his past. But this tweet by Trouba just reeks of no self awareness that being a top 3 hitter to players heads in thr last 4 years makes him seem. He could of added, because of these suicide concerns with pro athletes, I want the dept. Of player safety to punish hits to the head better going forward.

 

[HanSolo]

So you think its perfectly ok to walk up to a random stranger on the street, call him a dbag POS, and then just expect nothing to come of it? But if he reacts he is unhinged and violent?

If he reacts violently? Yeah. In a civilized society it's perfectly fine to talk shit back to someone in that scenario. To just start throwing punches? We have laws to prevent that from being an outcome. Laws that don't give a shit what the other guy said to incite the reaction. If you can't control yourself even if just by the knowledge and awareness of the potential consequences (worse than 2 minutes in the box), then yeah I'd absolutely call you unhinged and violent.

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

I mean, I'm pretty sure every Rangers fan that isn't just about muh hitz and muh big wants Trouba gone next year. But reading that could be interpreted as him dealing with depression and possibly being suicidal. Would I treat Scott Stevens and Derian Hatcher as a human in this situation and hope he doesn't do anything to hurt himself? Yes.

Lol, no one wants Trouba to hurt himself. I can remove the player from his personality very easily. But his opinion on the matter will be looked at as funny with the way he plays. That's the whole thing that people are confused about. You can't say you care about mental health of players/athletes and then go out and level them with NHL 24 type hits.