Proposal: Trouba Mega Thread Part VI

[Ducks in a row]

I don't believe it would look bad at all. Management groups across the league would love it and I believe it's fair to say that fans league wide hold Trouba responsible for this mess. He's the villain, and that won't change, regardless of where he gets traded to. Would the optics look bad from a players perspective? It could - but that would be hypocrisy from the PA. Anytime players hold out or demand a trade it's "just business" yet when management makes a decision counter to their wishes they cry wolf. If Chevy ends up not appealing to his demands, it's exactly that as well - a business decision.

And this girlfriend situation (if it turns out to be true) is overblown. It's not as if he has a spouse that faces a serious health issue. You're a professional athlete. Suck it up. It comes with the territory.

A lot of players have demanded trades because of significant others and they haven't been seen as a villain. If it is indeed true that his girlfriend is the reason why he wants out of Canada and you ruin their relationship or his career because you want to be able to keep him in Canada the villain ain't the player it is the buisnessmen who don't show compassion for human relationships.

So tell me how bad the Islanders look for not trading Hamonic.

To some people it wasn't looking good it ended up fine in the end but if it hadn't well then...

 

[JetsFan815]

In Travis's case it was a very ill family member. Quite a big difference. Being away from your loved ones is part of the life of a professional athlete. Heck there are North American players playing in the KHL and Russian players playing in the NHL that are away from their loved ones even more than an American playing in Canada. Don't they have feelings?

 

[Ducks in a row]

In Travis's case it was a very ill family member. Quite a big difference. Being away from your loved ones is part of the life of a professional athlete. Heck there are North American players playing in the KHL and Russian players playing in the NHL that are away from their loved ones even more than an American playing in Canada. Don't they have feelings?

Those players obviously don't have a problem that is why they are playing so far away. When something comes up and things change well then...

 

[cneely]

A lot of players have demanded trades because of significant others and they haven't been seen as a villain. If it is indeed true that his girlfriend is the reason why he wants out of Canada and you ruin their relationship or his career because you want to be able to keep him in Canada the villain ain't the player it is the buisnessmen who don't show compassion for human relationships.



To some people it wasn't looking good it ended up fine in the end but if it hadn't well then...

It seems to me that on this board, the only people who side with the player are fans of other teams hoping to get a skilled player for pennies on the dollar.

 

[New User Name]

A lot of players have demanded trades because of significant others and they haven't been seen as a villain. If it is indeed true that his girlfriend is the reason why he wants out of Canada and you ruin their relationship or his career because you want to be able to keep him in Canada the villain ain't the player it is the buisnessmen who don't show compassion for human relationships.

Then maybe American teams can up their offers for him......if they're compassionate business people.

To some people it wasn't looking good it ended up fine in the end but if it hadn't well then...

The situation still exists. Travis is working around it. The Islanders were not compassionate (your word)

 

[Ducks in a row]

It seems to me that on this board, the only people who side with the player are fans of other teams hoping to get a skilled player for pennies on the dollar.

I am a Ducks fans have no interest in Trouba so it ain't I want him for pennies on the dollar so if it seems to you only those types side with the player then you need to see things in different perspectives.

 

[Paradise*]

Gardiner >>>> Fowler >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nurse

Gardiner is the best player of the three AINEC

Forgetting about contracts (Gardiner's extra year), I take Fowler easily over Gardiner. Fowler has been Anaheim's best D so far this season. He's looked really good. I'm also not a fan of Gardiner.

 

[cneely]

I am a Ducks fans have no interest in Trouba so it ain't I want him for pennies on the dollar so if it seems to you only those types side with the player then you need to see things in different perspectives.

Maybe. I tend to have less of a bleeding heart than most for guys who are fortunate enough to make millions playing a game.
I travel extensively for work, spend weeks away from my family staying in remote locations, and am not fortunate enough to make 7 figures a year.

 

[cneely]

Forgetting about contracts (Gardiner's extra year), I take Fowler easily over Gardiner. Fowler has been Anaheim's best D so far this season. He's looked really good. I'm also not a fan of Gardiner.

Gardiner seems to be somewhat underrated but I agree.

Fowler
Gardiner




Nurse.


Imo

 

[Ducks in a row]

Then maybe American teams can up their offers for him......if they're compassionate business people.



The situation still exists. Travis is working around it. The Islanders were not compassionate (your word)

And what if teams have made a good offer but Jets are being unreasonable?

Hamonic rescinded his trade request. If he still wanted to be traded and Islanders still hadn't traded him things wouldn't look good.

 

[Paradise*]

Gardiner seems to be somewhat underrated but I agree.

Fowler
Gardiner




Nurse.


Imo

Nurse isn't even on the radar.

 

[cneely]

And what if teams have made a good offer but Jets are being unreasonable?

Hamonic rescinded his trade request. If he still wanted to be traded and Islanders still hadn't traded him things wouldn't look good.

Hamonic seems to come across as a stand up guy who is willing to honor his contract as a result of the fact that the Islanders weren't able to secure what they saw as an acceptable return. Good on him.

 

[Ducks in a row]

Maybe. I tend to have less of a bleeding heart than most for guys who are fortunate enough to make millions playing a game.
I travel extensively for work, spend weeks away from my family staying in remote locations, and am not fortunate enough to make 7 figures a year.

I am for good relationships call me a bleeding heart but if people had much better relationships all over the world the world would be a much better place for everyone.

Hamonic seems to come across as a stand up guy who is willing to honor his contract as a result of the fact that the Islanders weren't able to secure what they saw as an acceptable return. Good on him.

And if things had gotten worse between him and the Islanders to the point of it being nuclear? I would side on him easily.

 

[Paradise*]

And what if teams have made a good offer but Jets are being unreasonable?

Hamonic rescinded his trade request. If he still wanted to be traded and Islanders still hadn't traded him things wouldn't look good.

It needs to be a good deal in the Jets eyes. That's all that matters. They have the asset others want or they wouldn't be inquiring.

 

[New User Name]

When Brian Burke (an American) was GM of the Canucks, Peter Zezel (RIP) requested a trade (not demanded) to Toronto or Buffalo because his niece (Jilliann RIP) was dying and Burke being the dick he is traded him to the Ducks.

http://www.canoe.ca/HockeyAnaheimArchive/apr2_simmons.html

Don't talk to me about compassion.

 

[Ducks in a row]

When Brian Burke (an American) was GM of the Canucks, Peter Zezel (RIP) requested a trade (not demanded) to Toronto or Buffalo because his niece (Jilliann RIP) was dying and Burke being the dick he is traded him to the Ducks.

http://www.canoe.ca/HockeyAnaheimArchive/apr2_simmons.html

Don't talk to me about compassion.

Why should that make me not talk about compassion? It's not like I have ever said I was on Burke side about that or Ducks side to trade for him.

 

[Ducks in a row]

It needs to be a good deal in the Jets eyes. That's all that matters. They have the asset others want or they wouldn't be inquiring.

I know but what if they are being unreasonable? Do you think that is a possibility at all?

 

[KBobs]

A lot of players have demanded trades because of significant others and they haven't been seen as a villain. If it is indeed true that his girlfriend is the reason why he wants out of Canada and you ruin their relationship or his career because you want to be able to keep him in Canada the villain ain't the player it is the buisnessmen who don't show compassion for human relationships.



To some people it wasn't looking good it ended up fine in the end but if it hadn't well then...

No - his relationship would be ruined because his significant other failed to realize she was dating a professional athlete. And how would his career be ruined playing in Canada? Just because it's not his chosen geographic market doesn't mean his career would be in jeopardy from a player development perspective.

 

[CaptainChef]

Forgetting about contracts (Gardiner's extra year), I take Fowler easily over Gardiner. Fowler has been Anaheim's best D so far this season. He's looked really good. I'm also not a fan of Gardiner.

Yep. If you look at possession stats they say otherwise, but I'd take Fowler over Gardiner as well. But when it comes to trading either for Trouba, better be a heck of a big add to make it even attractive.

 

[kunekune]

I know but what if they are being unreasonable? Do you think that is a possibility at all?

His girlfriend lives with Trouba, lived with him last year in Winnipeg. Now she wants to go to medschool but can't go because she is Australian and needs his US citizen husband to live in USA in order to get into medschool.

Who you think is unreasonable here? It sure ain't the Winnipeg Jets.

 

[Paradise*]

I know but what if they are being unreasonable? Do you think that is a possibility at all?

Hopefully it's professional, but it wouldn't surprise me if there is a personal effect to the situation. In the end it's business and by Trouba currently not playing hurts both parties.

 

[cneely]

I am for good relationships call me a bleeding heart but if people had much better relationships all over the world the world would be a much better place for everyone.

That's fair, I don't disagree, but then his option is to forego his multi million dollar career. The Jets have no obligation to cater to his demands.

And if things had gotten worse between him and the Islanders to the point of it being nuclear? I would side on him easily.

I don't know the details around Hamonic's situation, but again, he has the option of walking away from hockey. having an obligation to play in a certain city is part of the deal when you want to be a rich athlete.

 

[New User Name]

Why should that make me not talk about compassion? It's not like I have ever said I was on Burke side about that or Ducks side to trade for him.

Then Jacob should do what I suggested. Sign with the Jets, marry his GF, buy her a house, visit her when he can, she visits him when she can. They'll both have lengthy summers to see each other. When he becomes a UFA sign where he wants to.

Do a Parise and Suter and sign with your boyhood team.......that's the rights you have when you become a UFA.

 

[cneely]

I know but what if they are being unreasonable? Do you think that is a possibility at all?

Who is to gauge what is reasonable. I'm sure if Detroit (or one of the other cities Trouba has deemed attractive) had stepped up with what the Jets thought was fair value, a deal would be done by now.

 

[Paradise*]

Yep. If you look at possession stats they say otherwise, but I'd take Fowler over Gardiner as well. But when it comes to trading either for Trouba, better be a heck of a big add to make it even attractive.

I agree, the add would need to be significant. I would hope we don't do a deal like that.